@david thank you very much for the information and good luck with the
operations.
@CitoplasmaX I will try it on a vm. Downloading it
From MidnightBSD:
"has a well established, mature codebase
maintained by by one developer
with decreasing Y-O-Y commits"
Mantained by one developer
No I meant I will download MidnightBSD and try it on a VM :)
Just trying it
95% of Intel me replaced by empty information means a broken not working
intel me.
when in some comments it is stated that removal of 100% me code is better
than 95% should be also written that functionally are exactly the same!!!
they both are not working intel me.
the discussion should be
If you check the most recent merge request (that in non developer language
means request to add some changes to the code by another developer) it dates
2 month ago. It appears clear that there isn't a mass of developers that is
pushing to have more changes. Not at all.
Or many developers
Yep I have also the same error:
The following error was encountered while trying to retrieve the URL:
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso/
Connection to 188.165.228.124 failed.
The system returned: (111) Connection refused
The remote host or network may be down. Please try the request
I agree on the fact that the owner of the repository can reject the merge
requests. But this ensure quality to the project.
If everybody could push all changes they want it would be complete mess and a
lot of new bugs.
I instead pointed to the fact that there are few merge requests. This shows
Thanks :) Yes if you read also the post in the Troll Lounge: "Hope for new
hardware" you can find even more detailed information. And in internet is all
at grasp. No need of another wiki :)
I did finished the howto, but I decided to not share it. To me the legal
implications are a nightmare. Even the removal of the whitelist can be
considered illegal since the wifi card not approved by Lenovo could exceed
the legal limitations. This is only an example.
I think that who has the
In the me_cleaner github wiki there is a lot of documentation. I applied the
latest version of the tool that uses this finding:
https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner/wiki/HAP-AltMeDisable-bit
http://blog.ptsecurity.com/2017/08/disabling-intel-me.html
and in the latest iteration the intel me was
I think that this is not an easy task. You have to find a compatible device
first.
Yep I know. But these are old devices. Second hand smart phone, battery
probably gone and so on. But if you have already one than you could give it a
try.
The idea is good, but I would wait for some more powerful one. An A20 is the
same as my banana pro and I can tell you it is not so fast, even just using
the command line.
I read that they are planning octa cores and similar.
PS reading in the FSF website: "The AllWinner Axx and R8 platforms come in
many boards such as the A13-OLinuXino, Cubieboard, Gooseberry, Hackberry and
CHIP.
While there is free 2D acceleration for Xorg, the GPU and the some features
of the video encoding/decoding (VPU) hardware are
I didn't understand the question. Are you referring to the database (MySQL or
MariaDB) or to the client? MySql workbench is compatible with other databases
than mysql, with mariadb for example. I see than in Debian 9 there is MariaDB
and mysql-workbench (6.3.8+dfsg-1). So I don't understand
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46126488/mysql-workbench-with-mariadb
It looks like a known problem.
Difficult to say, what the logs of the server say? Which type of error do you
get?
Yep it is a bug and I it was present also in T7
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/fresh-install-trisquel-has-problem-orca-screen-reader-being-default-and-wont-close
I didn't suffer of the audio problems but I uninstalled it for precautions.
Do you know if a bug report exists about it?
This is a good idea
I think that the wiki of Sakaki is very good.
If you have an external way to flash the firmware then you are quite safe,
unless you make mistake on the connection. But it is quite difficult.
I reflashed the firmware many many times with incremental changes and I had
always a backup ready. One
Here a good wiki about the topic:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Sakaki%27s_EFI_Install_Guide/Disabling_the_Intel_Management_Engine#imt_check
https://h-node.org/hardware/catalogue/en
Ah ok, but I completely uninstalled it.
PS on here a nice discussion:
https://www.reddit.com/r/libreboot/comments/6xvdii/libreboot_vs_librem/
It seems that to be able to use nouveau with a recent mobile GPU proprietary
blobs are needed:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/393357/is-nouveau-completely-free-of-non-free-code
In fact trying to use nouveau in my laptop I end up with the message at boot
that some firmware was
I am speaking about the hardware I have available and that it is already 3
years old. I am just telling a fact. No support for my nvidia card without
firmware in nouveau.
We are living in a world far from ideal. I am not blaming the people that
wrote nouveau.
This fact will push me to use an
correct
This is a perfectly legitimate position. We are all hoping to have a complete
free System. Will it ever happen? This is not a technical issue so maybe no
it will not.
This is why we are all here :)
I think we are all involved. I already posted that we can test the trisquel 8
release and provide feedbacks and bug reports. I had a small bug that I
reported but following updates solved it and I closed it. I am using the 8 as
my main distro on my main home computer. It is stable. For
?
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso/
The iso is from April so expect a lot of updates
Did you find a solution? This could be interesting also for others
https://laboratoiremecaniquelille.github.io/crappy/
Read on the topic that python is used in replacement of labview. I don't have
any personal experience about this.
I think that it should be advertised more the fact that intel ME can be
removed also on recent hardware. Speaking of Blobs, the storage as well has
its own firmware and so on. And this is still there even in the librebooted
laptops. Many people install the most recent ssd on those laptop and
I think that for non technical people the companies you mentioned do a good
job. But we should also look forward to the next steps. I am wondering if the
same companies invest to make research on how to free the modern laptop
The link you attached is 2015 and the information not completely true. They
do ship with coreboot when the author of the article was pretty sure they
would not do. I saw their hardware listed on the coreboot repo.
They deactivate the intel ME as I did. They cite the sources of the
I installed Trisquel 8 and I faced some problems. The installer at some point
was crashing. I solved starting the live image, and installing gparted. I
created manually primary partitions and then I started the installation. At
the step of partitioning the disk I choosed "other" and I used
thanks but it looks that it doesn't have generated so much interest.
The English is not a problem. I don't speak italian since many years :) I
need to find the time.
Ok slowly working on it
Check this: https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner/blob/master/README.md
he wrote: This project is an attempt to remove as much code as possible from
such firmware without falling into the 30 minutes recovery mode.
Whit his tool almost all ME partitions are overwritten with empty values.
I
Citing the author of the me_cleaner: For pre-Skylake firmware (ME version <
11) this tool removes almost everything, leaving only the two fundamental
modules needed for the correct boot, ROMP and BUP. The code size is reduced
from 1.5 MB (non-AMT firmware) or 5 MB (AMT firmware) to ~90 kB
In fact in my case the ME stops at the BUP phase (bring up).
In the slide 17 everything is explained very well here:
https://recon.cx/2014/slides/Recon%202014%20Skochinsky.pdf
It should be ok considering that the laptop where I used it is "old" (Lenovo
Y70-70) and with only the version 8 of the ME. Newer versions of the ME are
more difficult and more complex. The wiki that I am writing is very simple,
just the description of the steps I followed and where I found
Recently I managed to re-flash the BIOS of my Lenovo Laptop with a modified
BIOS that deactivates the intel management engine and eliminate the hardware
whitelist and set a new logo boot image. I wrote a post on the Troll Lounge.
I was wandering if it would make sense at all to write a wiki
Since yesterday night I run Trisquel 8. Apart the installation problems it
runs smoothly. All works so far. I noticed little things that I can observe
and in case open bug reports. But it seems pretty usable.
I am using the 8 downloaded from the jenkis repo since a while. I didn't have
any problem so far. I daily receive new updates. I am running it in a pretty
modern hardware, a quad core i7 Haswell laptop and it is very fast and
stable. Everything works even the sleep and so on. I truly don't
Yep the ME deactivation comes from the project of Nicola Corna
https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner
I used it as well in the latest version to deactivate the ME and remove
almost all the partitions in the ME region in my laptop.
Regarding the Purism, I actually found citation in their blog
Thanks, but I actually prefer the deb system. My first distro was a debian
2.2 potato :)
I recently had a Manjaro and I didnt like too much. You can obtain a Parabola
just applying a script to manjaro.
So I assume I would not like Parabola as well :)
The only credit I would give to Purism company is the fact that they are
investing on this topic. They ported their hardware to coreboot. This
requires some work as I am finding out. Not so easy as disabling intel ME.
There is the link to the issues. you could start from there. An example even
if related to trisquel 7: https://trisquel.info/en/issues/22926
some users complain about old kernel. Someone could compile and package a
new kernel and create a ppa repo. Ps I am not a developer from trisquel and
Not totally correct. You are speaking about the intel Boot guard that is not
enabled on all laptop. If it is enabled me_cleaner doesn't work. Check here
please: https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner/wiki/Intel-Boot-Guard
So if you are able to use the me_cleaner script means that there is no
Mhmm This is already done by many here
check here please: https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner/issues/3
All these people did already this.
The developer that achieved this is Nicola Corna. Credit to him.
I also disabled intel ME.
If you check here:
Here a very good guide on how to do this:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Sakaki%27s_EFI_Install_Guide/Disabling_the_Intel_Management_Engine
yep, I think the same. They are really doing some work
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Brief_History_of_Time this one seems perfect
:)
Abrowser is already updated to version 57.0 :)
Trisquel 8.0 I have it installed.
1. If you have a laptop yourself you can use the tool "me_cleaner"
https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner that reduces drastically the ME code on
the firmware and stop it to be executed. It works for most of the modern
hardware. Check here for example:
Yep surely it is marketing. I appreciate instead the efforts of the Purism
company that invests the time of some engineers to address the ME problem.
Off course all of these actors they do this for their own sake (money), but
the fact that some engineers work on this topic is a positive
The next frontier of the free software. I am old enough to have seen the
struggle and battle of GNU-Linux with proprietary hardware, the days when
only windows had the drivers, the terrible "winmodem" and so on. Nowadays
GNU-Linux non-free runs almost everything. The Free GNU-Linux is like
Thanks for the tip. It is pretty fast indeed.
For me it is amazing that in the blog of System76 it is not mentioned at all
the me_cleaner tool that they will surely use to disable the ME. Simply
amazing
Thanks for the links. Interesting for me is: the process is automated but
before to upload the changes to the repos they are tested locally. This means
there is a pretty active development. I installed Trisquel 8 and every day
updates come in.
I think it is very hard but not a bad idea. I am following the linux from
scratch build. Very complex, many dependency. Maybe for learning and building
the essential...
I am using Trisquel 8 since one month. No problems :)
Ehm...
First Where is written than Mr. Reinauer and Mr. Minnich are working for
Purism?
Citing the link you posted: Todd Weaver met again with various coreboot
contributors (including Stefan Reinauer, Ron Minnich, David Hendricks, and a
few others).
I see coreboot contributors.
Second it
maybe you are very young :) but for experience companies allow employees to
contribute to open source oe free projects. So it is normal to see some
people working on coreboot in their free time and for other company in
working time.
the prices should be in swiss franc that are almost 1:1 to USD. in your case
419USD.
I think that shipping would be expensive to US, depending on the weight.
I think that if you write them, they would answer.
For the second configuration you could just try the same you did for the
other
Here in Switzerland there is this provider:
http://www.purelab-tefc.ch/overview_english.php
that offer the x230 already corebooted and me_cleaned. But I think it is only
a local option.
I think that the best and cheapest place to find second-hand x230 is in US. I
would certainly go for a
I installed it on trisquel 8. So far so good :)
You could build your own:)
I don't know but I wanted just to make an example on how we could give an
hand somehow. Compiling a kernel is not a big deal. Not so much as digging in
the C code. I want to try linux libre as well. Thanks for the link
Which card do you have?
If a nvidia I think that after some version nouveau need a non free firmware
to work.
I have a recent 860 and it is not supported.
I think that Debian is rock solid and even the testing version is perfect for
every day use. Ubuntu LTS is based on Debian testing and not on the unstable
as well as Trisquel.
Mhm it could be that the modules needed for the wifi are not loaded. You
could check the version of the hardware and the needed module and check if it
is loaded. I guess you have knowledge of bash and commands correct?
Which usb wifi are you using? name, brand
I am a little bit puzzled by the number of posts coming from the same small
number of people complaining about Trisquel 8 is not here and so on.
I have it installed on my laptop that I am using in this moment and my main
machine at home since quite a while.
@ylevental did you try Trisquel
I think that at some point the automation will allow to keep up with the main
distribution (ubuntu) releasing at the same time.
I am wondering which tools are used to automate the releases and the builds.
I see that they use jenkins for the builds.
https://electrum.org/#download
It seems pretty easy.
I had a completely different experience with Trisquel 8. I am using a recent
hardware. The installation went well and the only trick that I had to use was
to partition the disk manually.
All is working perfectly. Browsing is perfect, watching video in youtube is
very smooth. Wifi is very
I think that it is ok to speak, but in my personal opinion it should bring
also something that helps. I don't agree with people that complain and do
nothing. If you really think that this project is dead why do you come here
in the first place? It is not to censor your ideas, but if you
What is the error?
maybe the command is "sudo cp target_firmware/*.fw /lib/firmware/ && exit"
I think that many people don't understand the philosophy of the given from
free time, of the volunteering and they just complain all the time without
offering real help. I guess it is the human nature complaining. I could
understand if Trisquel was a payed service. It is not. It is from the
I have to agree with you in here, but what do expect from some people that
apply the concept of freedom in hardware and software so strictly that some
of them use old hardware in the hope (they seem to forget the blobs on the
storage...) to have complete freedom? When they call you troll I
Here better information:
https://security.googleblog.com/2018/01/todays-cpu-vulnerability-what-you-need.html
Also arm cpus are affected and amd as well.
I found this on the website of the eoma68 developer:
http://rhombus-tech.net/riscv/shakti/m_class/
and in this update in the crowd-funding page:
https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/keeping-100-ohms-hdmi-impedance-risc-v-64-bit-libre-soc-anyone
It is stated at the end under
Yep that processor would definitely attract other people. Even if the idea is
excellent, the actual implementation is not great. The A20 is easily
available in many Soc and there are already laptop shells like the pi-top
https://pi-top.com/products/pi-top where you can fit any board.
So
I was thinking the same, like having the main machine only on the local
network. I have a similar problem as yours since my laptop has a nvidia
discrete GPU that at the moment is disabled since I am running Trisquel 8 on
it. I was thinking to use this laptop as a workstation, disconnected
Long time ago, I bought a raspberry pi for 35 dollars, and I installed on it
citadel. At the same time for 50 dollars I bought my own domain name for 10
years and in a week I had my personal email set up on the pi. The best way to
respect your freedom and pocket is to learn how to do things
I think that this question must be clarified.
What do you mean for free alternatives to AWS?
AWS is a service not a software.
With the question you mean software that you would self host and use as
similar to AWS services?
Or a similar service as AWS?
If the second I don't think that anything
Well, I cannot really answer to this. This would be a good question to
Stallman in one of his talk.
I would use inkscape (https://inkscape.org/en/) to accomplish that for
example.
I agree with you. The alternatives at the moment are:
- to buy and use old hardware with libreboot for web browsing, some text
editing (this could be good for a big percentage of people)
- to use the me_cleaner (https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner) on newer
hardware and having a full
Yep you see perfectly the point. Maybe there is even a market for this. And
it would be a perfect competitor to Purism. I ignore the numbers that would
make this business profitable.
yep but the doubts about this should make people be less strict in black and
white classifications. You cannot say that a x200 is completely free if you
don't know anything about some parts of it. It is nonsense. It is a grayish
field where there are many degree of freedom and not just black
AMD processors seem not affected.
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