The librem 5 is funded.
It shows insterest in libre software phones.
https://www.crowdsupply.com/purism/librem-15
It was unfortunate, Stallman was mentioned in an seeming supportive context.
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/the-apple-is-still-rotten-why-you-should-avoid-the-new-iphone
Thanks by the advice. I really need it to keep safe my desktop PC.
let's be honest.
Qualcomm is following the same way than Realtek in bring more blobs instead
of libre drivers as in past times with Atheros chipset. Even is pleasing to
Broadcom for spread that practice.
Replicant is a serious project that focus the security and privacy over the
rest of
Greetings from an HP DC7700 SFF user with a disgraceful surprise (yeah, Intel
ME and microcode).
The hard job that requires the deleting of the possibility of Intel arbitrary
control of the chipset is flashing with a deblobbed Coreboot like
Libreboot/Librecore.
"Yeah, but it's kinda lucrative." -- Purism, probably.
For me it is a matter of credibility, Purism has none. After seeing all the
double speak by the main developer here in the past you couldn't pay me to
invest in their products, its simply not the way the head of a for-profit (or
any company head) should conduct himself. The lesser issue is
95% of Intel me replaced by empty information means a broken not working
intel me.
when in some comments it is stated that removal of 100% me code is better
than 95% should be also written that functionally are exactly the same!!!
they both are not working intel me.
the discussion should be
Thank you very much for that link. Even KDE decided to support the project:
https://www.kde.org/announcements/kde-purism-librem5.php
Blimey ! Wasn't aware my original post would stir up so much Debate !!
The whole thing has taken an interesting turn, as it's now officially
going to be backed by the GNOME Foundation !
You're completely right...
thanks for the reminder
I agree that you treat your customers well. But you needn't be so aggressive
towards people who disagree with you/competition.
That's just part of having a business. Be more forgiving, and turn the other
cheek. If you do this I am certain that people will be more likely to be good
to you.
You sure have a broken compass of what is lawful and ethical, since you
slander and consider that bringing you to justice is gangster behaviour.
/tct
Just ignore them quantumG. Your time and energy is better spent on (any)
other things. Everyone with two brain cells who has been here at the time
knows very well what happened and who is behind it..
Todd is the guy heading Purism. Todd Weaver. If you're going to be a fanboy
of Purism (a foolish decision), you should probably know who it is you're a
fanboy of.
Also, I don't know about anyone else, but I don't recognize you and haven't a
clue who you are (nor do I care). It would be
Thanks for a great post and for offering the products you do.
Can I ask why some of your hardware has not obtained the RYF certification?
And how?^^
You avoid talking about the fact that your accusations are false, posing as
victim of a supposed freedom of speech violation. The same tactic is also
used by political incorrect people, who are very vocal about their freedom of
(hate) speech. You will be hold accountable for your false
"Slander is not criticism. "
The very same argument is used by oppressive governments all over the world.
Every tyrant who is opposed to the freedom of free speech argues the very
same way in order to defend his actions. Please think about that.
"You make it sound like it's hard to sue
Despite your efforts to spread false accusations about Technoethical, people
are doing business with Technoethical and they recommend us, hence the many
positive reviews, the most recent of which published by the FSF in this
month's newsletter:
"Engage in slander again and you'll be hearing from my lawyer."
This is exactly the aggressive kind of attitude that disqualifies you
from being worth mentioning as a hardware merchant.
Who wants to do business with a person like that?
If you ever wonder why people recommend to stay away from
Yep, why are you surprised, they clearly are full of hot air.
Whoa... calm down, its not worth it.
To be honest, I am not sure if what you said is much better. I see no point
in causing a fragmented free software community due to pettiness of any kind.
IF you think you are right, let it be. Otherwise people will just rail harder
at you.
Silence is
Since you brought this again, I'll state again the facts:
My comments were being hidden by people like you who were abusing the voting
system in an attempt to silence me in a thread announcing that Technoethical
has made available for purchase the most modern laptop with free BIOS. My
To those who are on the Devuan mailing list this will sound so familiar...
but...
this is my response to everything "Purism" as in the company...
Gee, I thought purism was a trustworthy company, I mean they claim you
can get the latest and the greatest without intel me in it and also they
5. Technoethic abused the voting system of this forum in a well orchestrated
effort in order to silence the critical voices, even using fakeaccounts.
ThinkPenguin never did that.
Since you were so eager when it comes to stating facts, I thought another
fact wouldn't hurt.
Of course you have the right to spend your money as you choose, whether it's
on a Purism laptop or some oceanfront property in Colorado. Your right to do
something is a separate debate from whether or not it is a good idea.
That response implies she was talking to TodD (whoever the hell is). She was
talking to me. I stopped talking to you lot years ago over a different issue
but I just thought I'd mention the truth untwisted because I'm still very
offended at someone telling me where I can spend my very hard
The current modem-related regulations are bad for free/libre software
indeed. :(
Just a note about Garrett:
He also presented the difference between Secure Boot vs. Restricted
Boot ([1]). And it's not about being able to disable it, and not about
having a "legacy" mode. :)
Of course, I do agree
> @onpon4 ThinkPenguin doesn't say anything about the nonfree BIOS on their
product page.
I was actually referring to Chris, on the forum.
Purism can't deliver the phone they promised in their crowdfunding campaign
and it's sad to see yet another misleading campaign. The discussion seems to
go off-topic, but it's important to correct some statements:
@MagicBanana
1. The laptop/desktop computers ThinkPenguin sells ship with
Thanks brother!
Yeah, Purism didn't even have anything to do with it. This is a post about
it:
https://hardenedlinux.github.io/firmware/2016/11/17/neutralize_ME_firmware_on_sandybridge_and_ivybridge.html
And this is the actual project page of me_cleaner, the tool that does it:
It seems to me that a lot of the people here on this forum work in the
computer industry and have fairly advance knowledge already. Bridging the
gap between developers and normal every day users is a big task.
Try and do some basic searches as if you were someone without any knowledge
of
Yeah it's definitely deceptive marketing, in the same response he says it's
90-95% freed and then calls it a 99% solution in the same response.
Anyways, glad to hear some input because those guys are good at marketing
even if they are full of shit.
Is this ME neutralization script
Thanks for the info, good stuff here.
> I need more power for some things and trying to accomplish that without
giving up on my freedom.
Like Magic Banana kind of implied, the most powerful "least bad" systems you
can get right now are from Think Penguin, particularly the desktop computers.
Note that they're still not as good
If your goal is to have more modern computing without compromising freedom,
Purism seems like a non-solution, as they do compromise freedom and don't
appear genuinely interested in solving the problems they insist are
temporary. Leah and Chris contribute part of their profits to the
I'm not trying to fan the flames with this and I think this is an important
post as not everyone has been around here for a long time or is as
knowledgeable on the subject as some of you more experienced long time
members.
and even though it is publicity for purism, this thread made me hold
I could respect Purism more if it weren't for their company's name (and the
name of their OS, PureOS).
It's one thing to present yourself as offering the most free product
currently possible with modern specifications and styling, while being up
front that modern specifications and styling
The following images are probably maybe almost certainly **not** implying
anything and really very OT and not relevant to Todd and his nice and very
ethical and above all honest business!
I tried.
> So my advice would be to stop talking about them.
I half agree with this.
I agree it's a bad idea to bring up Purism's activities.
However, if it's already been brought up, especially on a forum or other
channel about libre software, and it is not challenged directly, that gives
the
Thank you. I think we all need those words of wisdom and sanity sometimes.
You are, of course, absolutely right.
Public service announcement:
Go here for fully free phone OS:
https://www.replicant.us/
Replicant has FSF endorsement.
And go here for a (much cheaper) phone that is actually in fact libre (more
libre than purism's phone):
https://tehnoetic.com/tet-n2
Hello everyone,
The more you debate about Purism products, the more publicity they get.
There is likely no difference between this phone and the generic products you
get from samsung, sony, xiaomi, etc, aside from the operating system. Even
Replicant phones still have non-free boot firmware
That was probably wise, onpon4.
TodD was all over my Diaspora* feed yesterday. No social networking for me
until this blows over.
I wrote my comment on this here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/freesoftware/comments/6vr06u/gnulinux_based_phone_purism_5/dm2x2h2/
I decided to erase this from the comment because I don't want to give Purism
ammunition to claim victim status, but I also noticed something odd: the
supposed "funds
*Todd :)
You're absolutely right, Heather. Unfortunately, the track record of the
corporation isn't promising.
Please, Purism, consider the modem isolation/management and processor freedom
of your phone. The battle for libre, trustworthy portable telephony device
has been long and hard,
My own thoughts are that I hateses astroturfers and anyone trying to cash
in/rip off people who are interested in free software but not as well
informed as they might be so I am very, very grateful to you for posting this
"heads up" to the community.
If tomlukeywood is still active on the
Not sure whether this has been posted about, sorry.
[quote]
Librem 5, the phone that focuses on security by design and privacy protection
by default. Running Free/Libre and Open Source software and a GNU+Linux
Operating System designed to create an open development utopia, rather than
the
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