Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Trisquel website isn't translated into Russian?
Thank you David, we will wait when you are ready then ready to translate. Good job!
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A friendly reminder that we were promised a ruski forumello. I am impatient.
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excellent, comrades, excellent \o/
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Ко мне уже пнишла любовь. Да и нет у меня повода на нее злиться. Я только-что встал и уже устал. От любви -- никогда!
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Heh, it made me smile :)
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Благодарные пользователи Трискел навсегда торжественно приветствуют Вас товарищ Дэвид за Ваши услуги.
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:)
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Hi, friends! Sorry for this very late reply, I've been really quite busy these last two weeks and have only performed some minimal Trisquel tasks regarding new users and similar stuff. I've read your messages and I'll work into this request, at first I was going to reply that it would be better to add new languages when we make the planned switch to a new site but it doesn't make sense to lose all or part of this energy of yours in the meantime: we can import all Russian content along the other texts once the new site is ready. In short, I'll enable Russian support soon, there are a couple of quirks that we have to work on first but then we'll add the means for you to start working on translations. Thanks for your continued support and your patience :)
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persist, my friend, persist o/
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Davis hasn't sent me any answer. Anyway I created issue for feature request https://trisquel.info/en/issues/24619 I hope maybe sometimes it will be done. That's all for the moment.
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Send mail to David.
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I can start to translate, thisn't problem. The problem - I cannot add new language to the website. It looks that this page is done with Drupal. I suspect that only website's admin can add a new language in Drupal interface.
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Why Trisquel website isn't translated into Russian? well a good ration for that is in your hands be the first one to translate and stop your worries.
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I sent him e-email and didn't get the answer.
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The answer is: "nobody cared enough." The solution is in the second reply. MBanana proposed to make contact with David. Did you contact David?
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I didn't get any reply too, man :(
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Looks like this topic led me to nowhere. I didn't get help from anybody about this topic :(
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> We should assume that any proprietary software developed by Google is not privacy-respecting. And we should assume that any proprietary software developed by google, amazon, facebook, apple, microsoft is violating basic freedoms... and democracy in consequence.
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When you are using youtube-dl or downloading videos from youtube, you are feeding the google (saying which videos are having success: very good for the google business model) -> Do not feed the google ;-)
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> I admit JavaScript could be a problem with privacy. Yes, all proprietary software is a problem, but invasion of privacy is integral to Google's business model. We should assume that any proprietary software developed by Google is not privacy-respecting. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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Have an addendum -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTbMlBDCgng
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> This video can not be downloaded because of YouTube's DRM though. middlefinger it via ytdl or avideo ->
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Great stuff, senor lodier. Contributing back my tiny fraction -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgOVQeXY0pA
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He said DRM'd so I thought there was a problem with the download. That got us on the long winding road down the path. While I don't see any big issue with youtube-dl, I admit JavaScript could be a problem with privacy.
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> We > should use precise language. Yes, although in this case the distinction does not make much of an ethical difference. DRM and proprietary JavaScript are both bad for freedom. Even if the proprietary JS executed by youtube-dl does not constitute DRM, we should not recommend it in this forum. > These recordings are for sale on Apple's Itunes. > > I think it's a lesser evil to use youtube-dl and download them from Youtube. You touch on the larger problem, which is that these companies have so much control over this information that we cannot access it without giving one of them more power. avideo > youtube-dl > satan > youtube.com, but the only long-term solution I see is to decrease our reliance on companies like Google for information, even if that makes it difficult to access some information, just as we reject some conveniences that are unavailable without proprietary software. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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Yes, we are repeating ourselves. I don't mind how you call it but I didn't understand you at first. We should use precise language. Calling it DRM lost me. Those files are not restricted in any way. I can download them, watch them, copy them and share them all I like. Youtube has no control over how or when I watch those files.
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Well, would you say that software that controls how and when you can read your book is not a part of DRM? I think that we both are getting too balky :) I have to prepare for history. Have a good time, loldier!
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Non-free JavaScript is not DRM.
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..So those "recordings" that have a signature meant to be used to prevent users to download a video are examples of DRM system that Youtube built to prevent users from viewing media. You should consider it DRM. You are forced to use YouTube's proprietary software. Well, videos of группы Ноль have that 's' signature, which can be scrambled with function, which is barely possible to wright. They do not conceal a video address, they conceal a thing that can help people to get a video. So you need to run YouTube's JavaScript in your browser or use youtube-dl, which does not by-pass possible restrictions - it simply makes a use of non-free software to "help" you enjoy a video. Beware, mate!
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These recordings are for sale on Apple's Itunes. I think it's a lesser evil to use youtube-dl and download them from Youtube.
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Please do not use google and companies... There are plenty of other places where to share videos! Do Not Feed The Google!
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It has no bearing. "DRM" that is easily by-passed has failed, so it's recommended to break it. Only DRM that is impenetrable or unbreakable is an issue. You need to break Content Scrambling in order to watch or rip a DVD movie. Doing so with libdvdcss is not an issue with freedom. But I wouldn't call it DRM (with Youtube). It's obfuscation. All they do is try to conceal the video address. DRM is something that hurts your freedom by preventing to copy something you've legitimately bought or acquired. The only questionable thing is the use of proprietary code that is runj in the browser or terminal to view or download the video.
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Recordings do not :) You are right. But in order to download them you have to run proprietary software that will deal with signatures found in some files. (just as explained here) this is DRM. You can not get a copy of a video file, because YouTube won't allow you to do so.
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You conflate things. These recordings have no DRM. Once downloaded, they can be used as you wish. No restrictions in them. They can be copied or played back on any device. Proprietary JavaScript does not make it DRM.
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Well, it does, my friend: https://superuser.com/questions/773719/how-do-all-of-these-save-video-from-youtube-services-work#answer-773998 (README file by GPast) And unfortunately they make it extremely hard to download videos containing popular works of singers.
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It has nothing to do with "DRM".
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And this is a problem. Youtube-dl may (and it does) execute proprietary JavaScript in order to get something.
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Youtube-dl has no difficulty downloading them. I just did.
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Hm, both of these videos are DRM'ed. This is why I prefer using avideo over youtube-dl. I will try to search for them, when I have time :)
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The same Brake song song is included on a compilation here. https://youtu.be/VvaiXw6k4g8
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It made me smile:) This video can not be downloaded because of YouTube's DRM though. I am native Russian speaker too! So I am always ready to offer my help.
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кто сказал что я тормоз?
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Russian language is the official working language in UN. Yeah pendejo! what ever fits your desire!
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Just chiming in to confirm I wholeheartedly support this, I second it, and I third it, comrade Knight. +1 actually +2
[Trisquel-users] Why Trisquel website isn't translated into Russian?
Russian language is the official working language in UN. There about 291M native Russian speaking people around the World. In Russian world there are a lot talented programmers, engineers, 'linuxoids' etc. Due to recent political tensions last time, as far I know government of Russian Federation looking for IT technologies replacement. Even they started to own OS ReactOS (I am not sure that this is 200% of Russian development, but government do some invest there, but doesn't matter right now). Also they using some GNU/Linuxes stuff for military purposes. Only idiot will install Windows on the detecton missile systems :-). So I think Triquel website could be translated into Russian. Community can get a lot of talented people or those are interested in free software philosophy. Is there any technical obstacles to do this? Or any other reason? For example my native language is Russian, but not living in RF since my birth. I could at free time (yes! yes! free time is very limited resource :-) ) start to translate pages 1 by 1. Thanks for your read.
