Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops
Just uninterested to KDE apps unless for channels w/o Plasma deps, they are usually suffixed in -qt, just like marble-qt (KDE's desktop virtual globe named Marble) and kid3-qt (KDE's sounds and videos ID and fingerprinting manager). In short I need small apps like QupZilla, Trojita, Quassel, VLC ... though many GNOME apps are relatively small, Qt small world — GNOME SDDM GDM QTerminalGNOME terminal QupZilla Epiphany Trojita Balsa MarbleQt GNOME maps JuffEd gedit Scribus GIMP or Inkscape QuteCom Empathy Quassel Polari VLC Rhythmbox or Totem aQEmuGNOME boxes Just DNT recommend KDE apps (esp ones dependent on Plasma) to me if possible.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops
It's strange, in Devuan i see init 2.88 in the boot and later OpenRC 0.23, i do "cat /proc/1/comm" and i see "init". in Parabola i didn't see init 2.88, i see OpenRC 0.35.1 but when i do the same command above the output is "init", it's booting from SysV? This doesn't seem to be running on pure OpenRC, i never did the things showed in the Gentoo wiki https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC to replace the default init, and i didn't put "init=/sbin/openrc-init" in my Grub. Very confused, do you know something about this?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops
I was thinking about this thing and now i got it, in fact i didn't know that OpenRC have its own init since 0.25 version and now don't depends on SysV. I'm trying to do this thing in Debian Buster because, OpenRC 0.34, but i don't know how to get openrc-init working, in Parabola i didn't had this problem, do you know how to get openrc-init and the agetty working? in Debian based distros?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops
I know xscreensaver is outdated, I will mention it to them. Though you can too...
Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops
> […] with just GParted, AbiWord, Gnumeric from GNOME w/o Qt alternatives. You might want to look into Calligra, which is a libre Qt office suite. https://www.calligra.org/ For a GParted alternative, I found KDE Partition Manager. Not sure if you're interested in KDE apps, though, since your setup seems fairly lightweight. https://www.kde.org/applications/system/kdepartitionmanager
Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops
But dnt forget that, my machines is an GPT system which stands for you have an ability installing and booting different systems at parallel. :) Of course I'm a Hyperbola user but I still need Parabola and PureOS to receive the latest free software packages, and Devuan and Trisquel as a stable platform for free software just like Hyperbola. Tell the Hyperbola dev their xscreensaver is outdated and it tells me to build from source. But I still need my Git skills to be more advanced and network conditions to be capable before building aging xscreensaver from source.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops
Same with Hyperbola. only systemd is now effectively gone. :) Devuan init freedom/stability/security + Parabola libre importance = Hyperbola's way My point I guess is Hyperbola has all those advantages. Although it does have some weaknesses too of course... but for me they are well worth it. :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops
Yes it's not yet come with the full OpenRC in Devuan, but in Parabola the full OpenRC is available as an independent init system other than systemd.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops
Devuan made this choice to install OpenRC during the installation, but in Devuan Jessie i had no problems installing OpenRC with apt-get, maybe some work with the services but it worked. I don't understand what do you say with SysV deps, OpenRC it's not a complete init like SysV or SystemD, it's an improvement of SysV.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops
Select expert mode installation at the very beginning to install OpenRC with Devuan? This is quite simply running pacman in an arch-chroot session in Parabola that there is not a pain. But for the currently installed Devaun systems (yes I have one) any measures to get the full OpenRC like Parabola without any sysV/systemd deps?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops
Yep, mhm I have had experience with this. A bit of a pain but doable completely and totally.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops
If you want to install OpenRC in Devuan ascii you have to choose expert mode installation, then you will have a dialog to choose OpenRC, it's pretty cool.
[Trisquel-users] Running Parabola, Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel, Hyperbola for very different desktops
In different libre system I run very different desktops, just a kindly sharing here, Parabola: LXQt and Liri, all in Qt in this systems which I need to receive the latest Qt tech here, with just GParted, AbiWord, Gnumeric from GNOME w/o Qt alternatives. GNOME and the most forked desktops are conflicted against your-privacy due to geoclue2. Devuan, PureOS, Trisquel: I'm different using which desktops in these systems, but I install LXQt in both systems, alongside the default desktops for these systems, since I'm also an Qt small world workstation advocate. Hyperbola: Cinnamon, GNOME, MATE, Deepin, Budgie, LXDE, all in Gtk+ in this system which I need a stable environment for my practical tasks, just like from Devuan and Trisquel, though unlikely I'm indifferent for desktops in Devuan and Trisquel. Hyperbola removes geoclue2 deps which I dnt mind using Gtk+ desktops and internet apps in this system. For init systems I need to endorse OpenRC for Parabola and Devuan, which the full Parabola installer is using systemd, but systemd has plenty cons. Devuan has told to me they're defaulting to OpenRC but unfortunately their install medium is not doing such. Finally, for display managers I would recommend SDDM which is X and Wayland compatible and littlely Qt-written, which meets my need for a Qt small world workstation. GDM is also small but unfortunately part of GNOME, just like Epiphany (GNOME web) the web browser.
