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I haven't used their service and I wasn't aware of those issues, but I'm glad that you have made them known. Maybe they deserve a different thread, instead of an off-topic section of this thread. Tiberiu
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Have Protonmail made their webmail usable without proprietary JavaScript and/or added IMAP support so that webmail is unnecessary? I looked into using them a few months ago, and while they seemed great in terms of privacy their service was unfortunately incompatible with software freedom.
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You need to solder the wires on the BIOS chip pins (which is found between the RAM slots and the full-sized mPCIe slot, under the black protection foil). These pins are very tiny and the most fragile, especially the CS (Chip Select pin), and the GND (Ground) pin is particularly difficult to solder on, but besides these considerations, they are flash pins. The wires will be soldered on the pins of the BIOS flash chip. The T400s is nothing like the T400, structure-wise. The board has the components differently arranged, the screw's positions are different, both RAM modules and both mPCIe slots are easily accessible from the back side of the laptop. The '4' in the model name "T400s" is only because the screen size is 14 inch (with LED-backlight and 1440x900 resolution). The T4*0s series are very different than their T4*0 counterparts. If you want to make a comparison, it's safer to make it with the X2*0 series. Tiberiu P.S. Send us an e-mail from ProtonMail. It's safer than continuing the communication via Google.
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Can you show where it needs to be soldered? Theres no way you can use a pomona clip like on the t400? I would say im decent at soldering - not great. And besides the soldering, is it bascially the same as a t400? I did mark it as "not spam", and its funny you mention switching emails - I finally just switched to protonmail. I havent totally switched everything over - which is why I used gmail by mistake on this account. Thanks again.
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The T400s requires soldering, and you need more experience with it than soldering on the X200s and the X200T chips. The T400, T500 and X200 don't require soldering (clips are already available). To enable communication that has been broken by Gmail, you can "mark as not spam" my reply to your enquiry. Off-topic: I guess many spam e-mails start with "enquiry", but you shouldn't let your e-mail provider decide what's spam and what not. Best would be to self-host your mailbox (a BeagleBoneBlack board should do the job fine), the second option would be to choose a different, more ethical e-mail provider like Riseup, ProtonMail or OpenMailBox. I haven't used them myself, but I've read good reviews about them from the free software community. Tiberiu
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Hi Tiberiu, Just saw your email - for some reason gmail thought it was spam. Anyways thanks for the response. I have only done a T400 before, so my only question would be: What are the differences in flashing a T400s? I will probably wait until a guide is released to do it - too worried about ruining a perfectly good laptop.
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You have asked us and we have already answered your question 6 hours ago. In short: "[We've been very busy] but we can start to write it. If you want to help, it could be useful to send us your questions that you hope the guide will answer. We can then use your questions to figure out what sections we should cover in the guide." Tiberiu
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Sorry to bump an old thread. Has a guide for the T400s been released yet? Sitting on one that I got for cheap that I'm hoping to lireboot.
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Agreed... but someone needs to tell me why this has been revived... I approve of necroing, but not for threads that have flaming in it/lots of anger. Some threads need to die.
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Just a zombie thread that needs to die, calher, no worries.
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IDK what's happening here, but Minifree has given me excellent service. Amazing warranty.
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Tiberiu, you should have known better than to allow to be trolled away by a proven toxic sociopath in the first place. Now your thread, intended for informing / discussing of a new product, is all funked up. There are also minifree promoting threads and no one attemts to hijack and foul them up. They can peacefully promote their "Ministry of Freedom" all they want, but a competitor can't. This is injustice, an outrageously obnoxious behavior - too much for me to stomach. But the more interesting part of it is that some of the established, good-old users effectively siding with this ethical butchery of an otherwise sensible thread.
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Just to clarify, I in no way intended (or intend) to imply that such a suggestion is an insult. Personally, I don't see any reason to presume the comment was in bad faith or negative. However, Tiberiu didn't see it the same way, as was borne out in later comments, and so (in light of a lack of alternatives) it seemed reasonable to presume that was the object of the reference. That said, I can't speak on anybody's behalf, and certainly don't want to imply that this is somehow certainly the correct reading of the comment.
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How is "suffering from mental health issues" an insult in the first place?
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I can't speak for Tiberiu, but I believe the reference may have been to https://trisquel.info/en/forum/arrested-filming-ceo-thinkpenguin-inc-arrested-filming-police-faces-year-prison#comment-113992, where Chris claimed Ian was suffering from mental health issues.
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Agreed. That's my last post on this thread, no matter the answers. I said what I had to say.
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Please stop this madness.
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So when you criticize your competitors and compete with them aggressively, it's OK ; but it's not OK when they do it to you? Is that what you're saying? Also, sorry, you have zero excuse for that huge downvoting thing. And even coming from a supposed biased person, some of the criticism can hold some truth. Just calling "biased" is only throwing the baby with the bathwater. I think you T400s is still a good offer. Leah has something nearly as good, and much cheaper right now. That's the way it is, it's up to you stay competitive. If we enact some form of protectionism (if even possible), it has to go both ways. I disliked the way she hijacked your thread, but you did similar stuff in the past (hence the double-standard). BTW to clarify, my earlier comment was a joke, meaning "drop the egos", everyone. I also mentioned that aggressive posting is annoying on the forum, whether it's you or Leah. I'd adblock you guys if I could. (well, I'd adblock myself for that kfsn4-dre thread, but I don't sell anything :P). Last, what matters to us users isn't to stick with one or another company. All of you contribute to better , more free hardware. You guys naturally care about cash (and about freedom). Personally I feel many of the products are overpriced (I remember a GPU on Thinkpenguin costing way more that I could find by myself around the web). But if it's reasonable, I'm OK with it since it helps developing better stuff.
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"The only exception to this rule to release everything in advance is the PCB CAD files for the Computer Card. We’re planning to release the PCB CAD files for the Computer card once sufficient units are hit" If you cannot document, that no number of sold pc cards will result in lkcl making the pcb files public, then because of the reservation, you cannot say the website is misleading. You know, that maybe the pc card will not turn libre hardware.
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>Leah's behavior toward Richard and Christopher's toward Ian, who made their businesses possible in the first place, was abhorrent Leah apologized for her behavior and also explained the reasons (not that the reasons justify the behavior but it's something) why she acted like that. Why are you insisting on this point? I
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Haha. You say you are "criticizing" me, while I "bash" ThinkPenguin and Minifree, but you are not biased. Oh, the irony. Without Richard Stallman working on GNU and Ian Murdock working on its distro Debian (both founders) there would be no Minifree or ThinkPenguin. However, Leah's behavior toward Richard and Christopher's toward Ian, who made their businesses possible in the first place, was abhorrent. Not to mention the general behavior toward small businesses like Technoethical, which they perceived as threats from day 1. FYI, Technoethical would also exist without Libreboot and ath9k_htc free firmware. As you and your friends conveniently have left out, we are the only store to sell phones preinstalled with Replicant. That's not because we've worked against others, we have welcomed them, but because it is so hard to source and refurbish S2, S3 and N2 phones. And one of our first contributions has been the implementation of the initial support in Replicant for external freedom-respecting WiFi adapters. Before that, Replicant users were using mobile data exclusively for connecting to Internet and even the project lead was instructing on his blog how to install nonfree firmware for WiFi on Replicant. Besides phones with Replicant, we also sell internal ath9k (not ath9k_htc) WiFi cards which are the permanent solution for having freedom-respecting WiFi, as they don't take USB ports, don't need any firmware, and they work a lot better, at 2-3 times higher speeds and they're even dual-band. As I mentioned before, free software has no owners, and nowadays no one develops free software from scratch. And of course criticism has nothing to do with merits. An important contribution to free software doesn't give someone a free pass to "abhorrent behavior" that I and the rest of the Technoethical team had to respond to on this forum.
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> Technounethical suits you best. technospamical would be a great option too :D
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On 20/06/17 09:06, wrote: > "We" means Technoethical. Technounethical suits you best. -- Ignacio Agulló · agu...@ati.es
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"We" means Technoethical. Contrary to the use of "we" by former Libreboot lead, I do speak on behalf of my team. /tct
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False statement: "This project has been extremely unusual in that it has been a Libre Hardware and Software project right from the beginning." https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop
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The only exception to this rule to release everything in advance is the PCB CAD files for the Computer Card. We’re planning to release the PCB CAD files for the Computer card once sufficient units are hit lkcl has made a reservation about the pcb cad files. The reservation could have gotten a more dominant place. Because of the reservation I do not think, lkcl claims something which is not correct.
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> You are biased: "like when he had this ridiculous avatar or was fighting with thinkpenguin". How does this quote prove me being biased? I observed your actions and drew my conclusions. "Biased" means already having concluded regardless of your actual actions. Please learn this important difference. Just because I (and many others) think that your avatar was ridiculous, it does not make me biased. Just a side note: I never said that there are no freedom issues with EOMA68 (i have no idea if there are), it was all about how you tried to convey this message. > That has been a reaction to a previous abuse. Even if there had been previous abuse, it wouldn't have justified abusing the system again for your own sake. But there wasn't any in the first place. Unlike your well organized manipulation using sockpuppets, the negative votes for your posts originated in a natural way without any organization. Individuals disliked your post independently from each other. They were just unpopular. > He (MagicBanana) is biased. He fights anyone who criticize ThinkPenguin I won't dig into this any further since MB can speak for himself, but again, unless he actually receives money from or is good friends with TP, he is not biased just because he is in favor of them. Your usage of the word "biased" makes no sense.
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The day when he called Magic Banana "biased" was the eye opener for me. From then on, everything he said was baseless. I hear the chopper blades flapping against air on the roof top... His words hinge on air so to say -- the banality of detachment when he addresses himself as the royal "we".
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I have posted this before: On 28.08.2016 22:30, Richard Stallman wrote: > > But since FSF also encourages people to free the design of their > > hardware, wouldn't be important to tell them that if they promote their > > hardware as "libre hardware" they should distribute the free PCB design > > sources along with the hardware? Or to stop saying their computer is > > "libre hardware" until it actually is? > > Yes, and I am saying that to them. /tct
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Please, stop the madness. I would like to support your company, but if you are in fact right, shouldn't you just let this go? It takes more strength to let something go sometimes than to keep it stirred up trying to prove you are right. Please do what I have asked for your reputation, the reputation of libreboot and the free software community which you love. I really want to support a good ethical company. Don't get me wrong, I understand when people make mistakes, but this feels more like a rebellion. By the way, You said richard stallman said eoma68 isn't libre hardware... I am just curious if I could see that information. What you think you saw could be out of date... https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/support-the-libre-tea-computer-card-a-candidate-for-respects-your-freedom-certification Are you sure that it was after this date? if so, please show me proof I am very curious. I will finish this however by saying, there is some blame to go around, but if you reject this message, I am going to sadly have to look elsewhere in the future. I Wish you well though in other endeavours.
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If only what you wrote was true. I won't go back to arguing with you, but I'll leave these notes: > I did not elevate the discussion onto a personal level You have: "Then he is constantly whining" https://trisquel.info/en/forum/technoethical-t400s-now-available?page=2#comment-116393 > I am not one of your competitors and have no reason whatsoever to be biased towards you. You are biased: "like when he had this ridiculous avatar or was fighting with thinkpenguin". I care about ethics/freedom of *software* and I quoted Richard Stallman agreeing with me that EOMA68 computer boards are *not* libre hardware. https://trisquel.info/en/forum/technoethical-t400s-now-available?page=2#comment-116393 > I just think of magicbanana He is biased. He fights anyone who criticize ThinkPenguin (about LibreCMC, EOMA68, and even about labelling Ian Murdock). https://trisquel.info/en/forum/technoethical-t400s-now-available#comment-116061 > abuse the voting system That has been a reaction to a previous abuse. "We have used the voting system to restore valid posts that were intentionally hidden and to hide the off-topic messages posted after the discussion was back on track, which we assumed is the purpose of this voting system." https://trisquel.info/en/forum/technoethical-t400s-now-available?page=3#comment-116655 /tct
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I insist that you stop calling us trolls. I expressed completely valid viewpoints, I did not elevate the discussion onto a personal level, I am not one of your competitors and have no reason whatsoever to be biased towards you. However, I, as well as many long established members in this form (I just think of magicbanana, who gives excellent technical advice since years and years) expressed opinions that you did not like, and you just decided to abuse the voting system and hide those posts. This is a very shameful thing to do and not at all "ethical" - it's quite the opposite of what your name is actually promising. And it doesn't show a mindset that is oriented towards freedom. Calling us "trolls" is a personal attack and does not "keep the discussion on track", quite the opposite. You're violating the community guidelines and should, in my view, apologize for your inappropriate behavior, at least you should stop.
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We are in agreement. /tct
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>I don't want this to progress any further or happen again Then remove the voting system, problem solved. It's useless bullshit in the first place.
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I know exactly what everybody has done. I don't want this to progress any further or happen again.
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They work as a group and their track records in other threads prove this. As I mentioned before, this has been only a reaction. Also, it is completely false that we have downvoted "any dissenting view". We have used the voting system to restore valid posts that were intentionally hidden and to hide the off-topic messages posted after the discussion was back on track, which we assumed is the purpose of this voting system. /tct
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There's a difference between some users using the voting system to express their individual opinions and several accounts (theoretically belonging to several employees of one company) mass-downvoting from the same IP address any dissenting view . I'm growing tired of the name calling and other nonsense so please, to everyone involved, don't push things further.
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That has been a reaction to the trolls' abuse of the voting system. As one of them admitted, "before, things looked quite the other way round." The discussion was back on track and more useful information about the T400s has been posted since, but they were hiding on-topic messages they didn't like and they were posting off-topic messages in their new attempt to have the whole discussion hidden (moved to the troll lounge - a subforum where they are top contributors, judging by the frequency their usernames show up there). We call on everyone to be on-topic when posting in this and other threads. A big thank you to the majority of the Trisquel community for helping keep the discussion on track and not feeding the trolls. /tct
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Hi Heather. That is not a T400s. I don't know which model it is, but the T400s looks like this: https://www.slashgear.com/lenovo-thinkpad-t400s-laptop-review-2247655/ there are a lot of pictures near the bottom of the page
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Hello. Abusing the voting system to try and hide posts from people we don't agree with doesn't seem ethical and won't be allowed. I'll restore the hidden posts and I trust this won't happen again.
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I am using a 2.8 GHz cpu (T9600) on my T500. It is not a lot of difference but it is just as much a question of curiosity and principle.
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300 MHz gain (T9600 vs SP9600) doesn't seem a lot to trade for a much lighter and thinner laptop. What is the most powerful CPU you are using now in your librebooted laptops? /tct
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I thought so but had to ask :-) Thanks
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I think now I understand your question. The mainboards of other laptop models are not compatible with the T400s chassis. /tct
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Teah, I know Is there absolutely no way to get a faster chip working in e.g. a T400s? Is it impossible to replace the motherboard with one holding a faster cpu?
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SP9600 (6M Cache, 2.53 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB) is the most powerful processor that is soldered on the T400s boards. It is equivalent to the T9400 CPU upgrade in the T400. /tct
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SP9600
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What CPU has your T400s?
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Thanks. I there absolutely no way to get a faster chip working in e.g. a T400s? Is it impossible to replace the motherboard with one holding a faster cpu?
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@GNUbahn Yes, T400s doesn't have soldered RAM. It has two upgradable memory slots. @Heather T400s, T410s, T420s and T430s all have two upgradable memory slots, and no RAM is soldered on the board. The T440s is the first in the series to have 4GB soldered on the board and only one upgradable memory slot.
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Heather, if I read this correctly, the RAM is not soldered on a T400s: https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T400s
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The thread got trolled. Ugh. Tiberiu, my snit was shortlived but I might have deleted your reply to my original inquiry about my X200T in a mass-delete-everything tantrum so why don't I just get back to you when/if I have the darned funds and we'll figure it out from there. I'll have better hardware skills and better communication and interpersonal skills by then anyway. We're good. I like all the people. I'm done. I don't want to buy a T400S but now I understand why other people would so there's no reason for me to open this thread again. Good luck, folks; see everybody around.
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Who did send you this email?
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On 17/06/17 08:16, Ignacio Agulló wrote: > On 16/06/17 22:58, wrote: >> I agree. This reeks of manipulation. The responsible person should not >> get away with this, especially not in this forum, which is all about >> freedom. > > I agree. Now I got an e-mail message with the subject "Please don't side with the trolls"... -- Ignacio Agulló · agu...@ati.es
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On 16/06/17 22:58, wrote: > I agree. This reeks of manipulation. The responsible person should not > get away with this, especially not in this forum, which is all about > freedom. > I agree. -- Ignacio Agulló · agu...@ati.es
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Magig Banana replied to a post by above but it's no moe there so it looks like he was replying to Techno's comment about "trolls." - Here are some posts that were hidden by the puppet army recently. quantumgravity wrote: Suddenly a huge amount of critical comments got downvoted to the point of getting hidden, while tiberius posts experience an astonishing popularity. Even more surprising, since this changed literally within a few hours - before, things looked quite the other way round. What might be the reason for this? loldier wrote: It's an orchestrated effort to downplay the dissent and take over the forum. I've warned against this. There's a fault in the system, as it only takes a few downvotes to hide a message. A group of some five to eight individuals could easily control the situation to their liking -- which messages stay which get promoted. They are abusing the system that is supposed to be a self-regulating feature to moderate the forum against obvious malice and trolling. Now it's working against the best interests of the forum. Take Supertramps post, for instance. Yep. Let's slide it to the trolly lounge! :) Now ask yourselves, why should this post be hidden? loldier wrote: As you can all see right now, it goes on and on. Everybody involved, please think about it a little further. The downvote button is not supposed to cut on legitimate criticism. It's not supposed to be about "popularity." It's only meant to help us keep the trolls out but it cannot help against those within.
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> others like you If you imply 'awesome, decent, intelligent, beautiful and sexy people' than we have no beef. In fact I'm sure you meant just that. >Your efforts to throw this thread in the trash bin are noted. Nah, you don't need help.. ur doing it just right, mate. 'u killing it bro' :) >We at Technoethical would like to be able to continue answering questions about our T400s laptop installed with fully free BIOS and OS. Remind me please, I'm senile, you'll certainly pardon.. are those the ones that cost 4 times more than the minifree's and are basically the same deal? :)
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Take this account for instance. https://trisquel.info/en/users/fdcx
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I agree. This reeks of manipulation. The responsible person should not get away with this, especially not in this forum, which is all about freedom.
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As you can all see right now, it goes on and on. Everybody involved, please think about it a little further. The downvote button is not supposed to cut on legitimate criticism. It's not supposed to be about "popularity." It's only meant to help us keep the trolls out but it cannot help against those within.
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The discussion is back on track. We call on everyone to not feed the trolls by replying to their comments. /tct
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It's an orchestrated effort to downplay the dissent and take over the forum. I've warned against this. There's a fault in the system, as it only takes a few downvotes to hide a message. A group of some fice to eight individuals could easily control the situation to their liking -- which messages stay which get promoted.
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Suddenly a huge amount of critical comments got downvoted to the point of getting hidden, while tiberius posts experience an astonishing popularity. Even more surprising, since this changed literally within a few hours - before, things looked quite the other way round. What might be the reason for this?
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Hi Tiberiu, Note that we prefer GNU Free Documentation License v1.3 or higher, without invariant sections, for the libreboot documentation. I don't consider you to be a threat. I personally support you (despite my position running Minifree) and so does the Libreboot project; this was one of the promises set out by our open letter, and later on, our collective management policies. Thank you for working on this :) ~Leah
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Yes, we plan to write a tutorial showing how to flash Libreboot on the T400s. All our works are licensed under free licenses, so it will be easy to include our tutorial in the documentation at libreboot.org. FWIW, we've always encouraged and helped people to start businesses around fully free software. We've done this with Vikings and others. Only by making free software our profession we can have a fighting chance against proprietary software. No one owns free software and no one is starting from scratch when writing free software. Libreboot is no different, it is based on coreboot and other free software. From the beginning we've offered our help to the project and wanted to work together while making our own money from the flashing and refurbishing service. Instead of being welcome to do it, we've been considered a threat. Since then we've come a long way with the help we received from the community, despite not having formal endorsement from FSF via RYF or from the Libreboot project (until recently). We still have the hope that gradually things will become normal in the Libreboot project, so we are again making steps towards this goal. We'll see how it goes. /tct
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>...I don't know how else to help. Help? He doesn't want your help. He's up to enlarging his business, taking over the forum and ignoring all advice. That's why this thread should go to the lounge. It's a perfecty legitimate subforum. He can spam all he likes over there, but no, he wants to take over the front page.
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Just for the record, if you don't appreciate my comments, Tiberiu I apologize, but I don't know how else to help.
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I am stumped. I will try to leave you alone if that will help, but just try to take it easy. I am only trying to help even if it may seem like an insult to you. Take care Tiberiu. I hope you will see the light.
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Okay, Tiberiu, my bad... I do have to actually answer this because I am not trolling you. I am only trying to help you see that you are not helping yourself. Does it even make you happy to be so against your competition and people who are trying to help you? More importantly, does this anger make you happy. I hope not because like any drug you will hit rock bottom. I am seriously concerned whether you consider me a friend or not. Personally, anyone who supports free software is a friend of mine even if their motives get a little crazy for doing so. Even Leah or you.
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I would prefer if this thread stayed on point and rational and if you would just ease up. IF you die because of high blood pressure or anger, it will make me sad for a time, but disappointed long term. Please just mellow out, we are not your enemy. I will continue to support your products but not this irrational anger.
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Hi Tiberiu, Can you also document (ideally with photos too) how to flash the T400S? libreboot.org documents T400 flashing, but not T400S. T400S requires heavy amounts of soldering and the procedures differ a lot. The documentation on libreboot.org is in Markdown and easy to modify. See: https://libreboot.org/git.html#editing-the-website-and-documentation-wiki-style Since you're selling them, that means you have knowledge of how to set them up. We've mostly overlooked T400S in Libreboot, and focused on the regular T400, since there aren't many of the T400S models and not many people using it. Also, thank you for your initiative :) Don't let the trolls in this thread get to you. I do actually think the T400S is a good laptop. Everyone makes mistakes :) Regarding persmule's patches... they should work, but yes any testing and reporting would be good. You can drop them into the relevant directory under resources/libreboot/ if you're adapting Libreboot 20160907's build system (recommended, since the one in the Git repository is in a state of flux at the moment). Once again... apologies for what happened before. ~Leah
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I think this forum is not the right place for advertisement in the first place, at least not in the sense of posting threads. You should rather but an advertisement like thinkpenguin does. If a user on her own mentions problems regarding trisquel and your notebook, of course you can join the conversation and give technical support. But let's imagine the market is growing and ten competitors all praise their new offers in this forum, maybe even starting to fight along the way - it would be chaos.
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Is that a T400s? I thought that was a Lemote Yeelong. I don't want to buy a T400s because the regular T series and the little X series work better for me but other people might be THRILLED to find out that this is available so it's kind of mean to make them sort through irrelevant OH LOOK!!! A pretty butterfly!
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Interesting. You wrote to Leah: "I'd say you're the one desperate, judging by all the lies and contradictions you've submitted" but you feel yourself offended by the word "whining", immediately calling me biased.
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There have been questions regarding the Libreboot code running on the Technoethical T400s. Our policy is to use the latest stable official version of Libreboot on our laptops. That is 20160907. https://libreboot.org/release/stable/20160907/ We confirm that everything that works in the T400, works in the T400s and in the T500 too. All three laptops share the same code. In addition to T400 and T500, the T400s has both external SATA (eSATA) and USB connection in the same port (called eSATA+). The USB connection in that port works as expected. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESATAp We didn't have the need to use the additional feature eSATA in the T400s, but we have tested it today and we confirm that it doesn't work with Libreboot 20160907. We can test the patch proposed by persmule for enabling the extra feature eSATA in the T400s, and share our results on the libreboot-dev mailing list. If that proves safe to be merged in Libreboot for the next release, it would be a nice extra to have when needed (e.g. to back up data).
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A bit off-topic here I guess but that's not how the word "effort" works
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Let's slide it... Either that, or we take the main forum to the lounge and let Tehnowhatever keep the spam in the main thread.
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You go ahead, maybe others like you will follow you inside the lounge. Your efforts to throw this thread in the trash bin are noted. We at Technoethical would like to be able to continue answering questions about our T400s laptop installed with fully free BIOS and OS.
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>The post got too enraged Yep. Let's slide it to the trolly lounge! :)
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I won't repeat myself. If you want an explanation, please read with attention my comments here: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/technoethical-t400s-now-available#comment-116154 (the paragraph before the last quote) https://trisquel.info/en/forum/technoethical-t400s-now-available#comment-116185 (items 8 and 10) /tct
Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available
Please don't engage in troll-like behaviour. You're not helping. At all.
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By using words like "bitching" and "whining", you and Magic Banana prove you are hostile towards me. https://trisquel.info/en/forum/technoethical-t400s-now-available#comment-116061 A new forum member doesn't even need to go through the hassle to track your past comments in other threads, it's clear that you are biased. I call again on respecting Trisquel community's Code of Conduct: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/technoethical-t400s-now-available#comment-116123 /tct
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sad to say, this book's message applies to tiberu, but as for hillary... not so much. Though I disliked both candidates, Trump is ten times worse than her. Anyways, I am just mentioning that because the title on that book is a falsehood. He did have ties with the russians. So yeah... while the logic makes sense for tiberu, it makes a lot less sense for hillary. ps, I am and still am of the thought, That bernie should have been chosen. :) that's my two cents for ya.
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The post got too enraged. I am also sorry for my comment.
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>How is my comment biased? But Magic Banana asked the very same question and did not get any answer from you. Most likely, every unpleasant comment is just "biased" to your eyes. lulz, indeed, that appears to be the case :D
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F FO FOC FOCU FOCUS Libre
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How is my comment biased? But Magic Banana asked the very same question and did not get any answer from you. Most likely, every unpleasant comment is just "biased" to your eyes.
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Please feel free to submit reviews in the dedicated forum threads such as: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/libreboot-t400-minifree-reduces-price-once-again https://trisquel.info/en/forum/libreboot-t400-returns-minifree-trisquel-preinstalled-permanently-reduced-price /tct
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We won't reply to biased comments such as yours. /tct
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It is no surprise that a thread like this did happen, since two companies compete with each other. I was watching the whole discussion and conclude that the argument was fruitful in the beginning, showing a healthy competition and a lot of pros and cons of both parties. However, it elevated to a personal level quickly, and I do believe that technoethical was the main reason for this. In the end, Leah made a smart and mature move by apologizing and trying to end this battle, while tiberiu refused to accept and damaged his image even further. Leah, I know how hard it is to hear somebody spreading false claims about or at least presenting oneself in a negative and biased way, and I do get very emotional in those situations. However, I learned that it's clever to stay polite and calm, since in the end it will make your oponent look bad and it might even help you. I think this is what happened now, so you definitly did the right thing. Most of the time I hear from Tiberiu he is blaming others for their actions, like when he had this ridiculous avatar or was fighting with thinkpenguin. Then he is constantly whining about how he is not able to compete with minifree's prices, calling their price policy even to be illegal in some countries. Well, welcome to the though reality of a merchant! There are always bigger competitors when you start a business, and they can get stuff cheaper and make you having a hard time. Nobody promised to you that starting a business is easy or will necessarily succeed. It's tough and a lot of times, smaller companies cannot persist against bigger rivals. That's normal in the world of business and you should stop whining about it. Just try be creative and determined, maybe offering things nobody did so far. Most of all: change your behaviour in public. You're making it impossible for your company to grow if you create such a bad image of yourself as you do at the moment.
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I think the only thing that this immature argument has done for me is made me less likely to buy from either party.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available
Those who have bought a T400 in minifree, could you make a small review? Some photo showing laptop etc. :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available
This whole thread is a bit lets say... derailed...
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Let me know how it goes, GNUbahn. I've always shied away from the T*S Thinkpads because of the soldered in RAM (and Tiberiu has educated me that at least the T400S has a soldered in CPU as well) but part of that may just be where I am right now in self-educating about laptop hardware. I like easy chores like upgrading RAM. :) Liberating this sweet X200T I rescued for $15 is not going to be an easy chore at all. I didn't think Tiberiu was overcharging after reading the documentation about what is involved (my motherboard has to be completely removed to get at the chips that need to be flashed with the Beaglebone Black) and was actually getting excited about saving up to send her to Romania but after reading this thread I kinda don't wanna any more. I hope that changes. It certainly did when I had the same negative thoughts about Leah once and she was human about her mistakes and apologized, even though it took me longer than most of the "regulars" around here to even talk to her. At any rate, I'm glad to see more of us freeing our BIOS and those who with the technical knowledge helping those without. I hope to see you posting again after this all blows over, Tiberiu. Everybody makes mistakes and we'll probably be laughing about this by the time I could save up the money to have you take care of librebooting it for me. I want to say a bunch of supportive things to Leah about the personal issues she's dealing with but it's really none of my business and it doesn't have anything to do with free software anyway.
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Nothing that can't be solved with love and friendship. Wait, I meant with a duel, an old-fashioned duel. For the user, the more sellers, the better. The lower the prices, the better. But this whole thread feels like spam (and takes the potential client for an idiot).
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Back on the track: I have now purchased a T400s and I must say I am really looking forward to have this machine liberated. It is very nice :-)
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They are now. I remember the discussion about Minifree because it's been one reason I registered here: Just take a look: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/minifree-price-change I think it is a bit unfair pointing fingers.
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You propagate ideas of libre software and at the same time sell 10-years old PC's hardware for that libre software for triple price, doesn't sound very ethical. Minifree's prices are much more adequate.
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>I wondered if you were watching... David is always watching, he's a very diligent mate :)
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I wondered if you were watching... Thank god... I was beginning to think this was going to go nowhere.
