cd: Maybe oversimplified but when opposing a theory such as man falling upward towards godhood one should start at the basics:-)
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Lance wrote:
DM accused me of blasphemy for simply pointing out that
you and he see something in certain scriptures that isn't there.
No, Lance, I pointed out that your assertion that Judy should not believe
that the Holy Spirit would lead her into all truth was blasphemous. Please
try to
Judy wrote:
In the meantime though I would like to ask why
you and some of the others on TT put so much
emphasis on the incarnation when Paul and the
apostles preached the cross? Does this disparity
not ever bother you? Why didn't they go about everwhere
preaching the incarnaton?
Judy, the
Judy wrote:
... they can not know God or His Word unless they are
Greek scholars and know every little translational nuance.
John wrote:
More ad hom and in this case a flasehood
Please try to leave some of the moderation to the moderator. This is not an
ad hominem argument. Discuss it in
Sent: January 11, 2006 08:07
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Judy wrote:
... they can not know God or His Word unless they are
Greek scholars and know every little translational nuance.
John wrote:
More ad hom and in this case a flasehood
Please try to leave some of the moderation
I read you correctly. Yours is a distinction without a difference.
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Sent: January 11, 2006 07:59
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon doctrine
Lance wrote:
DM accused me of blasphemy for simply
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From: Lance Muir
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Sent: 1/10/2006 8:30:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon doctrine
If the 'Mormon Jesus' is comparable to Rudolph the red nosed reindeer who 'saved' the day for Santa one dark night then belief
David,
I am speaking post DBR; in the book of Acts and in the
Epistles we do not find the
great emphasis on the "incarnation" that we are hearing
in some circules today.
The apostle Paul preached the cross and spoke to Festus of righteousness,
temperance, and the judgment to come (Acts
OK Go to the corner for some down time,
David.
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Judy
Taylor
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 11, 2006 08:40
Subject: [TruthTalk] Mormon
doctrine
Why not give David a rest Lance; you know as well as
me that we have
Why not give David a rest Lance; you know as well as me
that we have
been over and over Greek verbs and present/passive
tense ad nauseam
and a lot of what I have written has been either
rejected or made suspect
by someone's perception ofGreek.
David's _expression_ 'personally, I'm not so
The majority of your questions reflect a great deal
of 'absence of forethought', Judy.
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Judy
Taylor
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Sent: January 11, 2006 08:31
Subject: [TruthTalk] Mormon
doctrine
David,
I am speaking post DBR
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The majority of your questions reflect a great
deal of 'absence of forethought', Judy.
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Judy
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Sent: January 11, 2006 08:31
Subject: [TruthTalk] Mormon
doctrine
adequately addressed IN HIM...THE INCARNATE GOD.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
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Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 11, 2006 08:57
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon
doctrine
Well then Lance why don't you add what
David Miller wrote:
... I pointed out that your assertion that Judy should
not believe that the Holy Spirit would lead her into
all truth was blasphemous. Please try to read me
a little better, please.
Lance wrote:
I read you correctly. Yours is a distinction
without a difference.
Please
: [TruthTalk] Mormon doctrine
David Miller wrote:
... I pointed out that your assertion that Judy should
not believe that the Holy Spirit would lead her into
all truth was blasphemous. Please try to read me
a little better, please.
Lance wrote:
I read you correctly. Yours is a distinction
without
: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:31 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Mormon doctrine
David,
I am speaking post DBR; in the book of Acts and in the Epistles we do not
find the
great emphasis on the incarnation that we are hearing in some circules
today.
The apostle Paul preached the cross and spoke to Festus
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:31 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Mormon doctrine
David,
I am speaking post DBR; in the book of Acts and in the Epistles we do not
find the
great emphasis on the incarnation that we are hearing in some circules
today.
The apostle Paul preached the cross and spoke
Indeed -- we all figure in the ministry of reconciliation.
jd
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..interestingly, the thought of incarnation, effectively isolated below,is incarnate only in certain folk remote to the writer
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:09:07
Lance wrote:
What 'good point' does she make, David?
She made a good point that some scholars and theologians are so removed from
doing the true work of the Lord that they invent a language that becomes
esoteric to themselves. Only the educated and initiated understand what
they are talking
quot; That's my goal in writing this
one. In considering the trinitarian shape of ministry, I want to be
theologically practical."
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Sent: January 11, 2006 09:55
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:08:21 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The INCARNATION is everywhere present throughout
the entirety of Scripture, Judy.
Where? Jesus told His disciples at the
end that "All things must be fulfilled, which were written in
the law of Moses,
Oophs!! I shouldn't have said "none" because there is
the Isaiah passage
(Isaiah 7:14); but where are all the others you speak
of.
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:02:00 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Lance writes: The INCARNATION is everywhere present throughout the entirety of
I'm not so sure that this is not the case . - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Sent: January 11, 2006 08:07 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon doctrine Judy wrote: ... they can not know God or His
She has been corrected on this any number of times, but refuses to accept my commentsABOUT MY OWN INTENTIONS. She has decided that I am lying about my own intentions and, as such, her comments are ad hom whether you agree or not.
jd
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon doctrine
And I, by no means, am conducting the work of moderator.' I am discussing
the defintion of ad hom . By definition, it is anything that takes us away
from the discussion at hand. It can be insulting or not. That is all I
am doing. Are we
o not have the time to look up the references for you right now. David Miller.- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon doctrineAnd I, by no
JD, we have been around and around about this in other
threads but here is a recent one on Col 1:19,20from 1-7-06
You wrote:
The word tranlated "pleased" in the gk text is the word in
question. "Father" or "God" is atached to that word.
That attachment is a personification and does not
JD wrote:
I sourced all three comments !!! Are you accusing
me of making up definitions and then stating them as
factual, David? Is that what you are doing?
No, John. My post was written and sent before I received the post you had
written with the definitions. I'm sorry if this confused
rg
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Yes I have. And, over the years, your contribution has not help
. For example -- what is the official Mormon teaching on the
atonement of Christ? I have asked that question before, here on TT.
The answer? Must be un
Sent: January 11, 2006 08:40
Subject: [TruthTalk] Mormon
doctrine
Why not give David a rest Lance; you know as well
as me that we have
been over and over Greek verbs and present/passive
tense ad nauseam
and a lot of what I have written has been either
the way, is believed by Mormons to be one of these terms. :)
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Yes I have. And, over the years, your contribution has not help .
In a message dated 1/11/2006 6:49:14 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
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The majority of your questions reflect a great deal of
'absence of forethought', Judy.
LOL This is good!! TT is the
greatest!!
Blainerb
il.innglory.org
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The following is a summation of Mormon teaching. The problem I have encountered is common to this article, as well. And that is the difficulty in finding Mormon sites that speak officially forthe Mormon Church doct
Sent: 1/9/2006 11:04:03 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon
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The following is a summation of Mormon teaching. The problem I
have encountered is common to this article, as well. And that is the
difficulty in finding Mormon sites that speak officially
foolish and dangerous. Be warned.
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Judy
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Sent: January 10, 2006 07:45
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon
doctrine
How ironic;
You "incarnational" folk can never point the
finger at the Mormo
Yes I have. And, over the years, your contribution has not help . For example -- what is the official Mormon teaching on the atonement of Christ? I have asked that question before, here on TT. The answer? Must be under the pickle!!
I am beginning to believe that there is no Mormon teaching on
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon
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The following is a summation of
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doctrine
Have got to leave the house right now so will
respond when I get back.
In the meantime though I would like to ask
why you and some of the others on TT put so much emphasis on
the
"incarnation" when Paul and the apostles
preached
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Yes I have. And, over the years, your contribution has not help
. For example -- what is the official Mormon teaching on the
atonement
ce Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
They did. It has to do with WHO IS ON THE CROSS! If it was the 'spirit brother of Lucifer' then there is no gospel.
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From: Judy Taylor
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Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 10, 2006 08:24
Subject: R
1. In Christianity, atonement did not take place in the Garden prior to the death on the cross. How is this defended apart from the use of "logic" or personal opinion?
2. Since the Mormon notion of atonement includes the works of the participant, why was the Mosaic Law not suffcient? After all,
ohn.
Bill
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1. In Christianity, atonement di
thethought of
incarnationisremote to the writer, below--why?
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:45:41 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You "incarnational" folk
..
..interestingly,
the thought of incarnation, effectively isolated below,is incarnate only
in certain folk remote to the writer
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:09:07 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
thethought
of incarnationisremote to the writer,
below--why?
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006
..who are
they?
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:48:30 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..interestingly,
the thought of incarnation, effectively isolated below,is incarnate only
in certain folk remote to the writer
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:09:07 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The following is a summation of Mormon teaching. The problem I have encountered is common to this article, as well. And that is the difficulty in finding Mormon sites that speak officially forthe Mormon Church doctrine. jd (still looking )
Atonement
"Jesus paid for all our sins when He
g:is the ff. greater
revelationbasic tomarriageadultery polygamy or pornography?
which is which?
"God [age:
unknowable ] is married to his goddess wife and has
spirit children
"The first spirit to be born in heaven was Jesus"
"God had sexual relations with Mary
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The following is a summation of Mormon teaching. The problem I have encountered is common to this article, as well. And that is the difficulty in finding Mormon sites that speak officially forthe Mormon C
The following is a summation of Mormon teaching.
DAVEH: I think this is a better and more accurate
summation
http://www.jefflindsay.com/art_faith.html
.as some of what you've posted below that we believe is
incorrect.
that is the difficulty in finding Mormon sites that
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