Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-14 Thread Blaine Borrowman
- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Kevin writes: LDS church wants Salt lake City to favor one religion over another. Blaine

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-14 Thread Blaine Borrowman
be in his element, then. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Here is so video of Ruben preaching with Sacred Magic Underwear What is so

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
maneuverings? I dare say Ruben is an artist first, and a preacher second. He should stick to Shakespherean drama--he would be in his element, then. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] street preache

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
TED] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Kevin writes: LDS church wants Salt lake City to favor one religion over another. Blaine: Is that your conclusion from reading this? It sounds to me like they (the LDS Church) are desperate to get away from th

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
obody. We've never assaulted nobody." Blaine: Any body notice the double negatives in Lonnie's denials? Very impressive, huh? (:) - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
e to think of it, I do not very often see much of your stuff written in anything but little short sentences, which any fifth grade could handle with ease. (:) - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] street prea

[TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
LDS church wants Salt lake City to favor one religion over another. http://www.sltrib.com/2004/Feb/02132004/utah/138439.asp Protesters should stay at distance, LDS says By Heather May The Salt Lake Tribune LDS Church officials say they support the right of street preachers to speak out against

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
Here is so video of Ruben preaching with Sacred Magic Underwear What is so obscene about it? http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?sid=75354nid=8REAL VIDEO http://helix.ksl.com/video/ksl/1/116/11628.ramSalt Lake Mayor Considers New Rules For Main Street Plaza BehaviorFeb. 13, 2004 Salt Lake Mayor Rocky

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-13 Thread Blaine Borrowman
y 13, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech LDS church wants Salt lake City to favor one religion over another. http://www.sltrib.com/2004/Feb/02132004/utah/138439.asp Protesters should stay at distance, LDS says By Heather May The Salt Lake Tr

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-13 Thread Blaine Borrowman
essage - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech LDS church wants Salt lake City to favor one religion over another. Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Finance: Get your r

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-09 Thread irebukeu
DAVEH: Hm...I sometimes wonder why some non LDS folks are so anxious to get inside the Temples, Rubin. Are you one who wants to do so? Ruben: DAVEH is it my fault that your church is so secretive on matters? Why not have me do a walk throughwith a friend or three and take a

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-09 Thread Dave
irebukeu wrote: DAVEH: Hm...I sometimes wonder why some non LDS folks are so anxious to get inside the Temples, Rubin. Are you one who wants to do so? Ruben: DAVEH is it my fault that your church is so secretive on matters? Why not have me do a walk throughwith a friend or

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-09 Thread irebukeu
Blaine: Ruben, I would like to describe in detail what they do in what they call the washing and annointing rooms, but do not feel I should--not because it is so much a secret, it is just a sacred ordinance. Ruben: What is it, with the touchy feely stuff? This is not the doctor Laura show.this

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-09 Thread irebukeu
Blaine: Aww, you guys are just being defensive. Maybe you should follow the advice af an old sage I once knew--he was LDS Pres David O McKay. He said, Avoid even the appearance of evil. Maybe you guys need to try doing that on your next round of harrassing the honorable Mormon people. Then

RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Blaine wrote: Regarding the yelling, waving underwear, etc, I am not speaking from my personal experience. I am speaking of what I read about later in reliable reports. According to reports from various sources --sister missionaries assigned to stand on the streets with the street preachers,

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Blaine Borrowman
- Original Message - From: "irebukeu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Blaine, Regarding the article you posted from the Deseret News let me set the record straig

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
- From: "irebukeu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Blaine, Regarding the article you posted from the Deseret News let me set the record straight for you or anyone who is rea

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
ests) LDS - 2 (arrests) Blaine Borrowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: "irebukeu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Blaine, Regarding the article you

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 7:20 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Blaine wrote: These guys were just out there screaming obscenities. Since you are speaking about me, I was there at the wedding

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Blaine Borrowman
mon people. Then you won't have so much explaining to do. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:28 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Blaine wrote: Regarding the yelling, waving

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread irebukeu
Blaine: You what?!?! ROTFL!!! This sounds like an old fashioned b/w comedy starring the three stooges!! LOL!! You actually asked that question? Whew! Were there any young women present? No wonder !! Ruben: Blaine I hear this stuff from your members, you should hear the things these

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
ame I didn't latch onto. Were you that person? Blaine - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 7:20 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Blaine wrote: These guys were just out there screaming obscenities. Sinc

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
vil." Maybe you guys need to try doing that on your next round of harrassing the honorable Mormon people. Then you won't have so much explaining to do. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:28 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] s

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Blaine Borrowman
- Original Message - From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 8:56 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Blaine wrote: I disagree that it is because "men like to control others and local go

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
: Saturday, February 07, 2004 8:56 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Blaine wrote: I disagree that it is because "men like to control others and local government ALWAYS seeks to eliminate free speech," although that may be what happens in some instances. Rather, I th

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
in church singing hymns. - Original Message - From: "irebukeu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Blaine: You what?!?! ROTFL!!! This sounds like an old fashioned b/w comed

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Dave
Kevin Deegan wrote: All the Mumbo jumbo about HOLY SECRET PASSWORDS and SECRET Handshakes, reminds me of an adolescent club. Is the temple just Spanky's Clubhouse were secret stuff makes adults of stunted maturity feel special to the EXCLUSION of those Gentiles outside? DAVEH: Hm...I

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-07 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus - Original Message - From: Blaine Borrowman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2/6/2004 6:46:55 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech This is a good question, but I think the answer lies in the degree

RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-07 Thread David Miller
Blaine wrote: ... I think the answer lies in the degree to which free speech is allowed. Already you are setting yourself up to take out the word free in the word free speech. If speech is restricted, it is not free speech. Think about it. Blaine wrote: Most if not all communities have

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-07 Thread Blaine Borrowman
- Original Message - From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 9:17 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Blaine wrote: ... I think the answer lies in the degree to which free speech is allowed.

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-07 Thread irebukeu
Blaine, Regarding the article you posted from the Deseret News let me set the record straight for you or anyone who is reading. 1) I was there during the wedding at the your temple the day in question. We were asked to leave so the bride and groom can take pictures without our preaching in the

RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
Blaine wrote: These guys were just out there screaming obscenities. Since you are speaking about me, I was there at the wedding party. Where you there? Or are you speaking third person? "These guys were just out there screaming obscenities" Go ahead tell us what obscene things were said. Or do

RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-07 Thread David Miller
Blaine wrote:  I disagree that it is because men like to control others and local government ALWAYS seeks to eliminate free speech,  although that may be what happens in  some instances. Rather, I think it is to protect the rights of the populace--which is the right not to have to

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-06 Thread Blaine Borrowman
oked by the agressiveness of the street preachers. I even believe God raised him up for the present situation. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:40 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers

[TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-05 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Deseret Morning News Following a Monday meeting with Salt Lake City Attorney Ed Rutan, Mayor Rocky Anderson said he thinks the city can censor some of the infamous street preaching that goes on near LDS Church headquarters downtown. In the "next couple of days," Anderson said, the

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
Hey Blaine how come you censored out the rest of the story? Not Faith promoting? Here it is: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,590040864,00.html But Anderson said the Constitution likely protects the preachers' ability to wear such garments. It would be similar to protections on flag burning,

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-05 Thread Blaine Borrowman
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Hey Blaine how come you censored out the rest of the story? Not Faith promoting? Here it is: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,590040864,00.html