RE: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
] Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 7:14 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin? He has been redeemed from his sins, even before hehas ceased his addiction. That is not a lie, Linda - that is the story of the gospel

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-12 Thread Dean Moore
Message] From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Date: 3/12/2006 12:20:06 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin? DAVEH: Nothing impossible or even difficult about that, Kevin. Ever hear of a boxing/wrestling ring? A ring definitively implies

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin IS A MISNOMER

2006-03-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
Can anyone find an example of an ADDICTED Believer in the scriptures?Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 04:15:59 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The cross, presenting that sacrifice delivered once and for all time, gives the addicted believer all the time in

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-12 Thread Judy Taylor
Haveaddicts entered into "His rest" JD - or are they still tormented by doubt and unbelief along with the physical unrest that goes with addiction? "Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest any of you should seem to come short of it [..] Seeing

RE: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-12 Thread Dean Moore
al Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 3/12/2006 7:33:21 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin? Therein lies the test, doesn’t it? How many years do you tell him he has to develop the faith to do this? Is Osama bin Laden also redeemed from his

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
You talk of a "Host" of other scriptures and convieniently leave off citing them![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You quote scripture that appeals to your bias and conveniently leave off those passages that demanda broader opinion of sin and sinning than the one you insist upon. And there is a host of

RE: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
fter God’s grace fell upon me. Please let me know what you think. IzzyFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Friday, March 10, 2006 4:46 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin? Believers in bond

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
That is Mormon Logic for ya Something can be both A and NON A at the same time.James 3 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet [water] and bitter? Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Nothing impossible or even difficult about that, Kevin. Ever hear of a boxing/wrestling ring? A

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-12 Thread knpraise
Hey Kev -- one great point after another. No wonder they don't respond. Wow. I am truly impressed. What's the matter DH? Cat got your tongue?? jd -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is Mormon Logic for ya Something can be both A and NON A

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-11 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:55:04 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You quote scripture that appeals to your bias and conveniently leave off those passages that demanda broader opinion of sin and sinning than the one you insist upon. And there is a host of scripture , not to mention the

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-11 Thread Lance Muir
Judy says 'I hate all sin and that includes me (mine)'. Just how are we to understand this, Judy? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 11, 2006 06:33 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin

RE: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
The first step in deliverance is telling yourself the truth. Telling an addict a lie (such as below) just leaves him addicted. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now that I have my proof-texting urge nurtured, let me

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-11 Thread knpraise
john in this color -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:55:04 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You quote scripture that appeals to your bias and conveniently leave off those passages that demanda broader opinion of sin and

RE: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-11 Thread knpraise
He has been redeemed from his sins, even before hehas ceased his addiction. That is not a lie, Linda - that is the story of the gospel !! The lie is to be found in the teaching that he is not saved until and unless he grows strong enough to defeat his addiction. jd -- Original

RE: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-11 Thread knpraise
And pray for the family of Tom Fox - the Christian peace advocate killed this week in Iraq. jd -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] He has been redeemed from his sins, even before hehas ceased his addiction. That is not a lie, Linda - that is the story of the

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-11 Thread Dave
DAVEH: Nothing impossible or even difficult about that, Kevin. Ever hear of a boxing/wrestling ring? A ring definitively implies a circle, and such a ring is almost always viewed as a square when hosting boxers. Square circles KD -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-10 Thread Kevin Deegan
Believers in bondage to sin Married Bachelors Square circlesLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've a friend who runs a group home. He works the streets in the toughest area of one of Canada's largest cities. He is presently heading up a small group of believers, newer and older,

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-10 Thread knpraise
Believers in bondage to sin Married Bachelors Square circles KD Lk 18:27 -- what is impossible for man is possible with God. Mk 9:23 -- all things are possible with God. Now that I have my proof-texting urge nurtured, let me say this an addicted believer is not in bondage to sin !!! What

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-10 Thread Judy Taylor
Note: Free people are not in bondage; those walking in the victory of Calvary are not in bondage It is those who have been overcome (and not by Christ) who have been brought into bondage. All very tricky and very twisted JD- this is not the faith ONCE DELIVERED TO THE SAINTS. However, Jesus

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-10 Thread Judy Taylor
Seminarians addicted to pornography and homosexuality should be right in their element in the "streets of the city" ... Sure doesn't say much for the theology they were taught at that seminary does it? But then look at the rcc homosexual/pedophile scandal - pornography is just another aspect

RE: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Our pastor recently did a 4 week series of sermons on the S-word. There was a lot of follow-up reading material and some helpful classes offered for those with such problems. If you are interested, go to www.wcrossing.org and click on Links Signups, and then on S-word series resources.

RE: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
what you think. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 4:46 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin? Believers in bondage to sin Married Bachelors

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-10 Thread knpraise
You quote scripture that appeals to your bias and conveniently leave off those passages that demanda broader opinion of sin and sinning than the one you insist upon. And there is a host of scripture , not to mention the personal testimonies of lives lived (even here on TT) and the "unrepented"