Re: [TruthTalk] Those who have never heard

2004-06-08 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 6/7/2004 9:53:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Thank you for your well thought out and expressed perspective, John. Now I have a much better idea of how you view this. Sometimes I actually say what I mean to say. Thanks for the compliment.

Re: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 6/7/2004 4:39:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My, my, lots of political stews today. My advice: actually listen to what others think of America; it just may be true. It may be false but people flew planes into buildings to get you to realize something.

Re: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 6/7/2004 5:40:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be hard to make a convincing argument that we are a Christian nation, but people do not fly planes into buildings because we are sinful or arrogant. They fly planes into buildings because they are

Re: [TruthTalk] Ronald Reagan

2004-06-08 Thread Chris Barr
NATURALLY Speaking By Christopher C. Barr Reagan and Alzheimer's and Rumsfeld and Aspartame I liked Ronald Reagan. Remember the mixed up 1969 comedy 'Bob Carol Ted Alice' from Hollywood? That was in the midst of Reagan's terms as governor. It was substantially about manipulation.

Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-08 Thread Dave
Charles Perry Locke wrote: So, all are without excuse. It is not necessary that one has heard the gospel to face the judgement, or to be redeemed, for that matter. It appears that ALL have had the opportunity to know and worship God, either through the gospel, or for Paul's stated

Re: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread Lance Muir
Izzy: Just an observation based on public performance.You made it an insult. Powell or Cheyney would have made better Presidents than Bush. Just a note on Chretien (our now former Prime Minister):He probably couldn't have held his own in any debate with your current President. Lance

Re: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread Lance Muir
Izzy:Too much Rush. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 07, 2004 16:03 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false Lance, your political astuteness is dwarfed only by your humility. Izzy

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-08 Thread Lance Muir
Izzy: - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 07, 2004 16:07 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move The most profound endorsement of President Bush’s character I’ve ever read—Chris’ “word

[TruthTalk] Re:The goring of ox's and Manifest Destiny

2004-06-08 Thread Lance Muir
A hearty commendation to my friend Jonathan for a couple of excellent posts vis a vis the US of A. Egypt, Greece, Rome, Asia (the Mongols), Islam (not so much as a nation but as a religion), Europe, Britain, America: each has occupied the world 'stage' for a period of time. Each was

[TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-08 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Chris Barr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: Judy Taylor JT: I want to ask Chris why he would think that this is the Holy Spirit speaking to him vs some other spirit? CB: Well, the short answer is in John 10:27. jt: "His sheep hear His voice?" So you believe you are His sheep and George W.

[TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance Muir wrote to Terry: My hero is neither. From one 'leading authority' to another allow me to suggest that you check out TFT. He's considered by some,to be the leading theologian in the English speaking world for the 20 century. jt: So? Who are these "some?" They must not bewell known

Re: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/7/2004 6:27:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If it offends you to hear that (in my opinion) part of what Torrance is serving as meat is in reality nothing more than horse apples, I suggest you learn to poke the delete key

Re: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/7/2004 7:42:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I take offense and find it a bit smug of you to make the comment above. It is easy to sit in your armchair, far removed from the action, and call someone stupid. Bush has had

Re: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread Lance Muir
Judyt: Happily Judy, the world is larger than your perception or familiarity. 'Spin' Judy? We've all got a 'spin'! That is the interpretation that we place on the Scriptures we quote. As you quote more than most I'd suggest we're privy to your 'spin' more than most. 'Fool' Judy? I don't

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The goring of ox's and Manifest Destiny

2004-06-08 Thread Terry Clifton
Lance Muir wrote: A hearty commendation to my friend Jonathan for a couple of excellent posts vis a vis the US of A. Egypt, Greece, Rome, Asia (the Mongols), Islam (not so much as a nation but as a religion), Europe, Britain, America: each has occupied the world 'stage' for a

[TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judyt: Happily Judy, the world is larger than your perception or familiarity. jt: The philosophy of my unbelieving family overseas exactly Lance and this is one of the reasons why I left at such a young age; they literally reverence broadmindedness.. and

Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

2004-06-08 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charles Perry Locke wrote: So, all are without excuse. It is not necessary that one has heard the gospel to face the judgement, or to be redeemed, for that matter. It appears that ALL have had the opportunity to know and worship God, either through the gospel, or

Re: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread Lance Muir
Judyt:There are times when you amaze me! How you can, on occasion, misunderstand everything I've written, is simply beyond me. Have a good day. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 08, 2004 09:46 Subject: [TruthTalk] Mediation

RE: [TruthTalk] Americans, Canadians, Lions, Tigers, Oh My!

2004-06-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
Jonathan my dear, let me set the record straight. I do not worship GWBush, nor do I idolize him--or America for that matter. Perhaps my biggest flaw is that of being rabidly loyal to anyone that I believe is basically a good and decent (even though imperfect). This includes my God, my

RE: [TruthTalk] Ronald Reagan

2004-06-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
I, like you, am so saddened by the loss of President Reagan. What a giant of a man. I believe that one day history will look at GWBush as a great man also. Both are Believers. Ronald Reagan had the moral fortitude to announce that Communism and the USSR regimes was evil, and he went after

RE: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
Lance, Perhaps Powell or Cheyney would have made better Presidents in some way or another. But God knew that we would need a President with the (male apparatus) to make war on Terrorism. Thanks for the comments. BTW, I like Bush better than either of them. But GW is not nearly

RE: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, did Rush say that, too? (Happy thought!) :-) Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false Izzy:Too much Rush.

RE: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
Would you really want to endorse anyone that Chris approved of? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move Izzy:

RE: [TruthTalk] Ronald Reagan

2004-06-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
Chris, sometimes you show yourself to be a good writer.  This is one of them.  Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Barr Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 12:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Ronald Reagan NATURALLY

Re: [TruthTalk] Aspartame

2004-06-08 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" Sent: 06/08/2004 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Aspartame Interstiong article, Chris. THANX Yes to all your questions listed. Ahava b' YahShua

Re: [TruthTalk] Ronald Reagan

2004-06-08 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Ronald Reagan Chris, sometimes you show yourself to be a good writer. This is one of them. Izzy Just five minutes after ... Would you really want to endorse anyone that Chris approved of?

RE: [TruthTalk] Ronald Reagan

2004-06-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
Chris, FYI I would not take ANYTHING you prescribed.  There is a difference between the craft of writing and the content. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Barr Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: [TruthTalk] Americans, Canadians, Lions, Tigers, Oh My!

2004-06-08 Thread Lance Muir
Izzy: I believe that I have both praised and defended you on occasion.However, this post illustrates the worst of 'religion' 'american(ism)' and, an inability to grasp the importance of what Jonathan meant in his (2) posts. The rest reads like 'some of my best friends are...' Lance

Re: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread Lance Muir
Izzy:Sorry, God did not put GWB into office you did. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 08, 2004 10:55 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false Lance, Perhaps Powell or Cheyney would have

[TruthTalk] Sorry, Lance

2004-06-08 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! - Original Message - From: Lance Muir Sent: 06/08/2004 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false Izzy:Sorry, God did not put GWB into office you did. "Let God be true and

Re: [TruthTalk] Ronald Reagan

2004-06-08 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily Sent: 06/08/2004 11:09 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Ronald Reagan Chris, FYI I would not take ANYTHING you prescribed. There is a difference between the craft of

Re: [TruthTalk] Ronald Reagan

2004-06-08 Thread Lance Muir
Chris: Amen! Well said. - Original Message - From: Chris Barr To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 08, 2004 12:52 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Ronald Reagan \o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! -

Re: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread Terry Clifton
Terry:Why not take the advice to you gave to me? Just delete and, move on to matters that you estimate to be worthy of placing fingers on a keyboard? Lance Surprise, my furriner brother! You have no

Re: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread Terry Clifton
Lance Muir wrote: Izzy:Sorry, God did not put GWB into office you did. = Sorry Lance. That is not what the Bible teaches. Our votes are just a formality. Terry

Re: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread Lance Muir
Terry: Sorry, Terry what I said IS what the Bible teaches (as I see it). - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 08, 2004 13:28 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false Lance Muir wrote:

[TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Chris, I wouldn't trust "vaticanassassins.org" or anyone else involved in spreading thehalf truth/lies and conspiracy theories below even though I wassickenedto see George W. Bush presenting an American Freedom Award to the head of an apostate organization that holds so many millions of

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-08 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! Hmmm ... George Bush reportedly mocked her request before denying it. jt: Reported by who? The above is serious heresy and character assassination. Heresy?!?!?!? jt: Henry Lee Lucas was not a child molester, nor was

[TruthTalk] GW and terrorism

2004-06-08 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06/08/2004 9:50 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Ronald Reagan The same will be true of GWBush, who has had the moral strength to define our

[TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-08 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Chris Barr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmmm ... George Bush reportedly mocked her request before denying it. jt: Reported by who? The above is serious heresy and characterassassination. Heresy?!?!?!? jt:Yes - you are reporting something that allegedly happened that you were not present to

[TruthTalk] Aspartame

2004-06-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Christians.. please remember that "God has not given us the spirit of FEAR, but love, power, and a sound mind" - I find that the greatest irony of all is the enemy comingto sow fear among God's people. Remember Y2K? Christians were the most hysterical of all. What an indictment. Now we

Re: [TruthTalk] Aspartame

2004-06-08 Thread Lance Muir
Judyt:As someone in Christian 'marketing' I wholly concur with your cautionary tone. We (Christians) are as given to faddishness as the rest of NAmerican society. Amen! Amen! Judy. Lance - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 08,

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-08 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor Hmmm ... Protecting one of your own? jt: Don't be ridiculous Chris, why do you seem to revel in lies and half truths? I don't. I asked a question ... jt turns that into

Re: [TruthTalk] Aspartame

2004-06-08 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! Chris why did you chideme for believingyou lived inArkansaswhen youstill sign yourself as: Christopher C. Barr writes Naturally Speaking from Arkansas: The Natural State . naturally! You may write him at P. O. Box 1147,

Re: [TruthTalk] Aspartame

2004-06-08 Thread LaurHamm
I am glad you mentioned this, Judy. I do know a gal who had some allegric reactions to beverages with aspertame and they cleared up when she discontinued it. The symptoms did mask that of MS BUT this is not common. Below is a report I found to be interesting. Laura Is aspartame safe? After

[TruthTalk] Aspartame

2004-06-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Good ! - Thanks for letting me know, that's a good start :-) Judyt From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judyt:As someone in Christian 'marketing' I wholly concur with your cautionary tone. We (Christians) are as given to faddishness as the rest of NAmerican society. Amen! Amen! Judy. Lance

[TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-08 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Chris Barr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Hmmm ... Protecting one of your own? jt: Don't be ridiculous Chris, why do you seem to revel in lies and half truths? I don't. I asked a question ... jt turns that into "lies and half truths". Please note she did not say, "no". jt: The lies and half

[TruthTalk] Threats? Accusations!

2004-06-08 Thread Chris Barr
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !! "The rest of her writing is 'bout as accurate as that dispersion. No time to expose all her error ... anyway, who much believes her misinformation and disinformation anyway? If they do then they deserve what they get.My,

Re: [TruthTalk] Mediation of Christ -- the real vs false

2004-06-08 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 6/8/2004 9:25:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Izzy:Sorry, God did not put GWB into office you did. An opinion no more inspired than Izzy's. John

RE: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
Amen,Judy! Chris did live in Arkansas until recently. I wont tell you why he left, but he knows I know. J Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Bush

[TruthTalk] FW: Nancy believes Ronnie Saw her one Last Time...

2004-06-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- Subject: Nancy believes Ronnie Saw her one Last Time... http://nydailynews.com/front/story/200903p-173326c.html One last look # Patti says Ron, Nancy shared a final glance # Former First Lady's tears flow over coffin By MICHELLE CARUSO in Santa Monica, Calif.

Re: [TruthTalk] Bush blundered in his preemptive move

2004-06-08 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 6/8/2004 8:17:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt: Don't be ridiculous Chris, why do you seem to revel in lies and half truths? Your Hebrew words don't change a thing. It's another spirit Chris and I would not continue listening because it lies.

[TruthTalk] FW: Holy Hubert

2004-06-08 Thread ShieldsFamily
I received this on my personal email today. I am not responding, but some of you might want to. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Holy Hubert Hi, I saw an internet posting

Re: [TruthTalk] Americans, Canadians, Lions, Tigers, Oh My!

2004-06-08 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 6/8/2004 8:31:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way, for those of you who prayed for my neighbor Wendy: Tonight I asked her if she has yet invited Jesus into her heart as Lord and Savior. She said, Yes, I did after you told me I should. I asked him

Re: [TruthTalk] FW: Nancy believes Ronnie Saw her one Last Time...

2004-06-08 Thread Knpraise
Awesome. Thinking of women in politics for whom I have great respect, there is Nancy Reagan and John F Kennedy's wife. I am a Kennedy assassin buff - presenting movie and lectures to area schools from time to time -- and these two women rise to the top. John In a message dated 6/8/2004

[TruthTalk] Courtesy of A.Word.A.Day

2004-06-08 Thread Dave
Everyone wishes to have truth on his side, but not everyone wishes to be on the side of truth. -Richard Whately, philosopher, reformer, theologian, economist (1787-1863) -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find

[TruthTalk] Jeff Jones

2004-06-08 Thread Dave
DAVEH:Note to TT Old Timers..My nephew, Jeff, is returning to Portland tomorrow night. The past two years have gone by quickly! Whether he intends to rejoin TT, I do not know. -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to