Thinking Out Loud (again). Some of these thoughts and wording comes from From Cells to Souls -- a section in that book written by Alan Torrance. The following is a combination of AT?s thinking and my understanding of the importance of his presentations.
In search of a truly heuristic
Clearly so.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:51:16 -0600Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
myth (false prophetsspeak ofJC in the past tense formanipulative personal reasons or asdoes the author, below)
On
And absolutely no one disagrees with this -- but if this means that it is not included, that disciple hasmissed an aspect of worship that is of God's design.
Jd-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:47:15
If the shoe fits, Judy. if the shoe fits. I am quite sure you ahve used the word 'liberal" on this forum. But that is not important, is it? -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 23:36:43
Oh, I can heartedly agree. We have made church a spectator sport. But the larger assemblies are not all bad.
Jd-Original Message-From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 21:23:01 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Obesity
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Myopia. Ask your husband about it. I've found a
total lack of concern on TT, from DM to DH, for global issues. To make light of
4M deaths is simply beyond my comprehension. Wait, actually it's not as you've
all made jokes at any reference to events outside of either your neighborhoods
or
'THE' truth about the Congo is that you didn't even know it's location until
you just 'googled' it.
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US is largest
You've outlined your reasons for being here on
numerous occasions, Dave.You write well. You read well. You've undoubtedly
learned much. Would you kindly consider the following:
1. Write a description of Mormonism, as if you were
a non-Mormon, utilizing the information you've gleaned while
*Note Subject Change
Old Subject: Obesity
New Subject: What is church?
John wrote:
We (my wife and I ) have our times when we do not
attend but we are always benefitted insome when
we are there.
After all, church was God's big idea !!
I don't think Terry is against church
Terry wrote:
Possibly you are correct, but I see Paul as more
of a transient evangelist or missionary than as a
resident elder/pastor/priest ...
I agree. In such situations, it is natural for the group to be more passive
and want to hear him exclusively before he leaves.
Terry wrote:
Seems
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Thinking
Out Loud (again). Some of these thoughts
and wording comes from From Cells to Souls -- a section in that book
written by Alan Torrance. The following is a
combination of AT?s thinking and my understanding of the importance of
his presentations.
David Miller wrote:
... Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do.
Gary wrote:
myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense
for manipulative personal reasons or as does the
author, below)
If I had spoken in the present tense and told you what Jesus Christ said to
me today, you
Lance wrote:
I've found a total lack of concern on TT, from
DM to DH, for global issues.
I agree, Lance, that my concern for global issues is not very high. In
fact, my concern for national issues isn't very high either. I'm in one of
those situations where things are so bad here at home
Was there ever a time when...Yes, there was.
Abortion. Have you read 'Freakonomics'? Look at his 'take' on abortion. Yes
I do have a solution. Starting with yourself and, working outward, tell men
not to get women pregnant who will not carry the pregnancy to term. Is this
a joke? It is not!
have the mind of Christ
then...
Both nationalism and idealism are counterproductive
vis a vis the kingdom of God.
I'd also assert that Jesus is a critical realist!
For those from Rio Linda (a Rushism), ask DavidM.
Lance wrote:
We may have unamimity on my next observation (?):
At the end of all ends what will matter is whether
or not Jesus identifies you as a Christian.
Amen, Lance. Well said. Whether or not we know Jesus is not nearly as
important as whether or not Jesus knows us.
Peace be with you.
Mester Blaine: Jesus, indeed, is the same.The notion that he has spoken in this dispensation is apparently given credence (in your thinking) because of the claim to fame -- 4th largest denomination. What does the comparison of numbers mean when you compare to say -- Buddhism? How are you
Pretty much rigth on, Florida Man. And I do not know what happened when I sent this thing -- all the queston marks. ... most of them occur in the place of my ( " ") . I wrote this in Word and copied it over. I think I have done this before without this kind of problem -- sorry folks.
Whew !! Take a pill, there DM guy. You got people on the right running wild with ad hom and you go after Mr. G ?? Predictable.
JD-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:32:36 -0400Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re:
Poor JDno sympathy anywhere! (You
need a nice dog.) Let me know when the new me is going away so I
can hide. Izzy
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Blaine, its only shameful
if Im wrong. And Im not. One day you will wish
with all your heart that you had heeded the warnings you have been given here
on TT. Izzy
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You are using the guilt by
Methodist, around the corner from our home.
One of the great liberal city churches in these huge, beautiful turn of the
century buildings. They are all peppered with sodomites. No wonder
we drive 25 miles to a real gathering of saints. Izzy
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JD, all this talk of community above
everything else just comes across to me as humanism. Lift us Jesus and all men
will be drawn unto Him, and coincidentally to each others
fellowship. Its a priority thing. Izzy
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Jesus will undoubtedly one day set the record straight for everyone on how
important He considers God's Word to be. That will be a day of woe for
some. Izzy
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Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 4:08 AM
Wasn't it Jesus who firstset the example of
'driving' around the sodomites, whores, liberals, crazies and the like in order
to fellowship with the 'saints'.? Good for you, Izzie! Amen! Right on
sister!
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To:
Lance, get it off your chest and please EXPLAIN to us exactly what you want US to do
SPECIFICALLY about the CONGO!
Shall we follow your
example and just blame other entirely guiltless people for it so that we can feel how compassionate
we are? Izzy
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Golly, I always thought it was located in Canda--imagine that! Why don't YOU
try Googleing some accurate facts once in a while yourself? Oh, yeah, you
used Liberal-Google.com, right? Iz
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Sent:
A little like you leaving your neighborhood to
reach your neighborhood? A I get it.
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From:
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 04, 2005 10:47
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] community and
the Kingdom of God
JD, all
Oh c'mon Izzie, name names. Can you recall just how well the religious
leaders quoted the scriptures? Do I believe that YOU esteem the Scriptures?
I do. Do I also think that you quote it 'religiously'? I do. You are flip,
smart-mouthed and, on occasion, rather unpleasant to read.
- Original
David has given you a more appropriate answer than
Izzie but, she has a good heart? (I think so, anyway)
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From:
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 04, 2005 10:44
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Perry vs
DaveH
Blaine,
I agree totally, Lance. Let's just tell men not to impregnate women and
see if that flies. I'm sure it will do a lot to change hearts and lives.
Meanwhile, for those who aren't listening, let's change laws to protect the
innocent unborn. Izzy
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IFF you are content to be and, remain, somewhat
more narrowly focused then, do so. Hell, Iz they're only black people dying of
aids, starvation and war. I think it was Alfred E Newman who said 'What, Me
Worry'? N
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From:
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To:
I suppose you would sit there and celebrate
the community of diversity under the leadership of that pervert woman?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 8:54
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re:
Ask my neighbors. Dont ask the
sodomite whore-church.
From:
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Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 8:57
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] community
and the Kingdom
of God
A little like
I, for one, do not blame such as yourself, who
choose the 'broad road' that leadeth to fellowshipping with 'non-sinners'. What
was it again that Jesus was criticized for? With whom was he hanging out? A
but, you take the Scriptures seriously unlike some who shall remain nameless
(eh?)!
Im still WAITING, Lance. Answer
the QUESTION, Lance! Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:10
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: [TruthTalk] Re:American
Nationalist PRIDE
IFF you are content
ANSWER THE QUESTION LANCE.
From:
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Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:16
AM
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I, for one, do not blame such as yourself, who choose the
'broad
And you are a breath of fresh air, Lance. A joy and delight. Blessings. (PS
I wasn't being flip, but utterly sincere.)
-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:01 AM
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Gary, To call someone's comments a myth (even without any evidence)
expresses your unsupported opinion. But, your parenthetical comment equates
David to a false prophet. Rather than level such an ad hominem attack,
please provide exidence to support your claim or retract it.
Perry the
Lance, if you are going to state that David's citations demonstrate a
misreadng, please provide some evidence of such and allow David to respond.
Perry the Moderator
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Why?
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 04, 2005 11:37
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Lance, if you are going to state that David's citations demonstrate a
misreadng, please provide
Tell us? Ask Jesus what you should do, Iz.
Guiltless? Have you seen 'Shake Hands With The Devil"? Look at Clinton and
Albright showing up in Rwanda years later claiming that they did not know the
extent of that holocaust. That holocaust was a mere 800,000. Who was the General
who stayed
I never use the term, and have no definition. But if I wanted one I would
see if there was a comon usage for the term. I wouldn't make up my own
definition to fit my own desires.
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Because if you can not support your claims, they are likely false, and
bearing false witness...well...you know.
From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
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Date: Sat, 4
Gary might have the gift of discernment, Charles. If this is the case then,
simply 'discerning' (though he didn't, as you seem to suggest infer David
was a false prophet, IMO) is sufficient.
Why not let David take care of this privately?
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke
There is no false witness being 'borne' here, CPL. I've been reading David
for a long, long, long while. He has a way of parsing definite articles. I
already know what David would say in response to my 'supportive arguments'.
So then, as I bear up under your mutual monologues with the Mormons, you
I'd heartily recommend 2 Tim 3:1-17
enjoy
Youknow , Perry, if you are going to get serious with this -- what about "liar" and Deegan. Or just about ANYTHING Izzy says to anyone on the "left? You strike me as being fair minded -- but you areheaded across the line -- big time. As far as David being a false prophet -- tons of evidence on
Ah at last! A level headed opinion. Whewww,
thought I was being left without a 'supporter' (a nod's as good as a
wink)
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Well, it most certainly is not humanism, Linda. Or maybe I should ask what you think humanism is before going any further. David M accused me of the same thing -- perhaps this is where you got the idea. He too, left off giving me a definition.
What was written below is a first draft attempt at
Let me get this straight - IYO it is the duty of
America as a nation to go in and try to heal the epidemic
of violence and Aids in the Congo with what??
Just how does the gospel of the Kingdom cover a situation
such as this?
jt
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:09:29 -0400 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL
JD/Perry what about the fact that some (possibly
including Gary) hold to a doctrine that teaches them that the
spiritual gifts Jesus gave to the Church are not for
today - that they died out with the last apostle - as senseless
as that may be. A person like that would not
accept a genuine
does the "love of God" in your life say anything to this problem or is your thinking that the Government fulfills your responsiblity to those dying in the Congo? - or is that just more liberal nonsense?
JD-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
What does this have to do with anything? I believe in prophecy, Judy.And I have known a few honest people who claim to be prophets. And I believe in testing the spirits to confirm thedifference.
JD-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:
JD it is impossibleto "try the spirits" aside
from being rooted and grounded in God's Word which is not true for
either Lance or Gary. Lance claims repeatedly
that we can not know anything (because of the enlightenment) and
what comes from Gary's computer is more Dylan than
scripture (out of
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Mester
Blaine: Jesus, indeed, is the same.The notion that he has spoken in
this dispensation is apparently given credence (in your thinking)
because of the claim to fame
-- 4th largest denomination. What does the comparison of numbers mean
when you compare to
JD show me in scripture where God makes "his ppl"
responsible for the ills of the whole world? The Church is
responsible to witness to the Truth and the Truth is
what will make them free. In the world there is always some
crisis. It is just one big demonic game. I can remember
the 60's when
Lance Muir wrote:
David has given you a more
appropriate answer than Izzie but, she has a good heart? (I think so,
anyway)
===
Izzy is the re-incarnation of miss Kitty on Gunsmoke. Tough as nails,
heart of gold.
STILL WAITING, LANCE. ANSWER PLEASE.
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 9:27
AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Re:American Nationalist PRIDE
Tell us? Ask Jesus what you should
Were you referring to someone in
particular here, Lance?
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005
10:01 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: [TruthTalk] For those who
want Scripture and in the KJV translation
JD, if you are going to falsely accuse me
of ad hom attacks please provide the quotes. Izzy
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Lance wrote:
Why not let David take care of this privately?
Because Gary said it publicly. Besides that, my experience is that Gary
often does not respond to my private posts, so why should I waste my time?
Can't you, Gary, and John follow rules? Let's not be lawless. We have one
rule on
Thanks for asking, JD. To me
humanism is the religion worshipping humans. Putting humans and
humanistic thinking ahead of God and thinking according to Gods
Word. I have no idea how DM would define it. I also dont
appreciate your insinuation that I get my ideas from DM.
Regarding your
Lance wrote:
I, for one, do not blame such as yourself, who choose
the 'broad road' that leadeth to fellowshipping with 'non-sinners'.
What was it again that Jesus was criticized for?
With whom was he hanging out?
Let's make one thing clear. Jesus did not have fellowship with sinners. I
This is
so very funny!!!
Lance claims repeatedly that we can not know anything (because of the
enlightenment)
=
Well done, John!! Especially that last sentence.
Terry
Ditto! Iz
I knew it! You definitely do have your own
exclusive Bible Lance. Where do you read that Jesus went to
fellowship with "sodomites, whores, liberals, crazies,
and the like" In my Bibles they came to Him ... In fact
read John 2:23-25 and you will see that during the
Passover there were many
What do you propose to do about it Lance - take from
the rich and give to the poor? Australia is a semi socialistic country like
Canada and my mother is a good example. She went to work at 57yrs old out
of necessity because my father (who did not believe in owning a home
died). She was
I think I am going to like the "new John."Very well written and
thought provoking. Keep them coming.
Peace be with you.David Miller.
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Subject:
Christian conspiracy in Canada:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44581
Judy, I think Lance is talking about all
those times when Jesus hung out in the Baal temples with the
homos and prostitutesits in his Bible. Izzy
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Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005
10:45 AM
To:
Sad story of socialism at workrob from
the workers and give to the government to give to the non-workers. Izzy
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Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005
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Cc:
And where, pray tell, do you see "Gary" or "Lance" referenced belwow in my wording - not that anyone one rigth really cares about what I actually write?
But more than that aside - being rooted and grounded in Wod's Wod is exactly waht I see in these brothers. So who decides? You or me? Or maybe
DAVEH:Service?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Are there any other types of worship than singing songs?
Perry
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JOKESTER,
DAVEH: Denial granted.
Does Izzy not shine so brightly that you cannot see her luster,
John?
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Ahh -- so it was grafted that served as the
motivation. Of course DAvH will deny tis -- but the facts are now
on the table.
Another reason why I
Gary Lance are referenced in my wording not yours
because they are two of the three who are most critical of David Miller and his
spiritual gift. I'd be interested in some examples of the rooting and
grounding (in God's Word) that you perceive in the writings of both Lance and
Gary JD.
How bout them Dadgers !!
Can't you, Gary, and John follow rules? Let's not be lawless. We have one
rule on TruthTalk: No ad hominem arguments. The reason for this is because
the dialogue degenerates into being about egos and people defending
themselves. We want to talk about truth.
This goes on a wall in a frame !!! Thank you.-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:06:50 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry vs DaveH
I think I am going to like the "new John."Very well written
First of all, I thought you were responding to my words, since you included them in your response -- callme crazy. Secondly, are you tryng to tell me that nothing written by Gary was (is) biblical -- all of it was rock and roll? Are you trying to convince me that the Bishop from the North only
DAVEH: According to the dictionary definition, it's obvious Blaine was
not making it up as your below assertion,
Perry
http://65.66.134.201/cgi-bin/webster/webster.exe?search_for_texts_web1828=priestcraft
...Will Blaine receive a forthcoming apology?
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
I
They are definitely that! ROFL! Iz
But more than that aside - being rooted and grounded in Wod's Wod is
exactly waht I see in these brothers.
JD
I'd like to see something of substance that is in line
with God's Word (not doctrines of men) written by either of them on a subject we
have discussed on TT. If you search the archives I think you will find
that they both excelin criticism and their own opinion which is OK if this
is what
DAVEH: Hmm..So why did you not quote my posts about Izzy's
beauty as an example???
David Miller wrote:
We are looking for posts with substance,
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If you wish to receive
things I find
I say Amen and well put to what Izzy writes here and
would also like to point out that the "definition of Kingdom"
is much more than what it is not - which ismeat
and drink. Jesus Himself said that when He cast out Satan
with
the finger of God - then you may know that the Kingdom
of God is
DAVEH: FWIW Perry, you may be the one trying to change the culture (see below), so to speak. As I pointed out,
there are many definitions of teach, but the one I feel is appropriate
for TT agrees with what DavidM posted today about the meaning of
teaching (sermonizing)..
DavidM wrote:
Isaiah'spointabout false worshipsolidifies in
ch2, relates to 'trusting in man';in ch5, Isaiahcondemns the
arrogant attitude/s ofGod's people; e.g., '..you live alone in the
land' (5:8), acriticism of their
economicswhichreflectstheirreal poverty (lording
themselves over the
Given enough time, I could offer perhaps a hundred such examples, debunking Judy's claim that Lance is not concerned with substantive matters.
Izzy says of Mormonism:'Not worth 'fighting' about.' I'm thinking she might wish to qualify that as the nature of God and the Gospel are indeed
prophetsare
unambiguous; conjecture is not prophecy, conjecturists are not
prophets
ftr, your original
comment, below,promotes a false, ambiguousidea of JC which you can
not defend truthfully by defending your self
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 08:32:36 -0400 "David Miller"
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Let's take the first paragraph of your response below: tell me how youcan read my article, with an honest heart, and conclude that it is written with aview of prersenting humanism as opposed to a God-centered faith? I say that such is IMPOSSIBLE.
JD-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily
Judy Taylor wrote:
Where they hacked to death by other
believers in their church services JD? If they are christians then I
rejoice
with them that they are now at a better
place. Do you think God expects every believer to be responsible for
every other believer no matter in
myth (read:lie) : Gary O has no relationship with the Word of God
JD-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 14:01:25 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Exerpts
Isaiah'spointabout false worshipsolidifies in ch2, relates to 'trusting
myth (read:lie) : Gary O has no relationship with the Word of God
Gary is not a man of many words -- kind of like Terry. He may not seem as traditional in thought as some on this forum -- but he is clearly concerned with the Word, God in Christ and so on. To argue otherwise is to pita lie
Dave, Blaine wrote, Priestcraft is, by my definition, which admits that
he guessed at or made the definition up that suits him. Had he said
according to Webster's, or the definition of Priestcraft is I could not
have made the assertion I made.
Perry
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Dave, pick a definition, any definition. Just don't pick one that labels
what you do as teaching.
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Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 13:06:07 -0700
DAVEH: FWIW
I have no idea what is going on in the Congo Terry, and
I suggest that you don't either. Not really. I've had enough going
on here in my own home for the past two weeks to keep
me more than busy. I'm sorry you thinkI am cold
hearted and unloving but Istill need the
confirmation and witness
(the factthat
Methodistswere having a 'church' service iz really significant--the word
'church' in its context unravels the) myth
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Methodist
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Lance, I cannot disagree that Gary MAY have the gift of discernment.
However, people with discernment also know WHY they discern the things they
do.
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That is your myth (read lie) JD because Inever
made a statement anything like what you have written
below. Did I sayGary O never reads the
Bible? What I said is thathe is not sufficiently rooted and grounded
in God's Word to discern
what is and what is not a genuine spiritual gift in
They ( Then) why did Jesus blow it off by telling the disciples they would always have the poor . Well, this is perhaps the most upsetting of my discussions here on TT. I really have nothing more to say.
We have virtually nothing in common. You will not believe me, but I am going to think about
These quotes make my point JD, especially the last one
... You and he seem to like the word substantive. jt
On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 16:43:58 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Given enough time, I could offer perhaps a hundred such examples,
debunking Judy's claim that Lance is not
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