Mester Blaine: Jesus, indeed, is the
same. The notion that he has spoken in this dispensation is
apparently given credence (in your thinking) because of the claim to fame -- 4th largest
denomination. What does the comparison of numbers mean when you compare
to ---- say -- Buddhism? How are you doing in that
exchange. Could it be that numbers mean absolutely nothing when it
comes to the establishment of truth. I mean, my family is larger
than yours....... 7 kids and 12 grandchildren. That makes
us --------------------------- what?
Right?
Secondly, the Mormon revelations have nothing to do with the First
Church. There was no doctrine in the first church that provided
for polygamy. Blacks were welcome. Grace, not
works, was the theme of the day, God as expressed in the Godhead, was and is
the only God, salvation was a gifted occurrence apart from the law, the
church was never "right" in terms of the thinking and actions of its
membership, and the governmental structure of the first church was
nothing similar to what you have today -- dispite the use of such words
as "elders" and "bishops." &n bsp; No one believed that Temple
righteousness played a role in securing new heavens and new earths for the
faithful -- becoming gods to the same degree as the god of this
earth.
I mention the "first church," because the justification for the
revelations of Mormonism have everything
to do a supposed apostasy from the True Church of the first
century. such an opinion ignores the fact that "first
church" was divided based on doctrine and if we count heads, doctrinal
error (works salvationism
-- Jewish style) was, by far, the majority
opinion. The notion that the
church and its leadership had controls over the individual members (a false
doctrine) led to the establishment of the Pope and the continuance of works
salvationism. There would have
been no Pope if the membership understood that the rule of the bishop was a rule of example
---------------- only. The first church did not understand the theology of accepted
diversity as taught in Romans 14. In fact, if we cut out all the
material in the NT letters, if
we cut all the material that was written to inform and correct the thinking of
the first church - we would have nothing left but a
pamphlet of NT instruction.
JD
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry
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In a message dated 6/1/2005 1:34:33 PM Mountain Standard Time,
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The
mormons have their JSmith; the J.Witnesses have their CT
Russell, the
Christian Scientists have their Mary Baker Eddy; the RCC's have
their Pope,
and the Incarnationalists have their "Bishop". Ever wonder
if ANY of them
have the "right" Jesus? Izzy
Blaine: The "Right" Jesus is the one we all
worship, and saying he is different because of this or that is rediculous. Jesus has not changed, and
he has spoken to men in this dispensation, just as in olden times, and the
truths he taught will eventually engulf the world, as the stone (His
Church) cut out of the side of the mountain rolls forth and eventually fills
the whole earth. And Pairing Joseph Smith with a bunch of other
false Christs and false prophets is just another of Satan's
tricks. You are using the "guilt by association" approach to reasoning,
which is false reasoning, and shameful for anyone to have to resort to
it. By the way, the Mormon Church is now the 4th largest
denomination in America. Just two years ago, it was the 5th
largest.
