Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?---Part 2

2002-10-04 Thread GJTabor
Yes, but it is not the Bible's fault. I gave you reasons a long time ago why this is. You are brainwashed against the Bible which is necessary to continue in Mormonism. Mormonism and the Bible to not mix. DAVEH: Don't you think though, that there are a lot of sincere people who still believe in

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-04 Thread GJTabor
If God can created another God then why can't God preserve the Bible until today? I believe (and you refuse to study "how we got our Bible" because it would destroy your anti-bible bias and because Mormonism doesn't want you to) God preserved the Bible in it's present form today. I believe

Re: [TruthTalk]

2002-10-04 Thread GJTabor
Mormonism keeps a lot of their doctrines secret from non-Mormons and from their new Mormon converts until they have been brainwashed enough to take the weird doctrines and not leave Mormonism. I had a Mormon tell the this. New Mormons can't handle all this "truth" that only Mormons have.

Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus the Godman

2002-10-04 Thread GJTabor
Praise the Lord. I have been trying to drive you nuts for years. LOL DAVEH: Glenn..you are driving me nuts trying to figure out who you are speaking to. Is this post meant for me??? In the future, will you please preface your remarks with some notation as to who you wish to respond.

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-04 Thread GJTabor
The reason it is simple is because -- if Jesus had children they would be half Gods. This just doesn't compute in my mind. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My good friend, since you don't have much time, how about dropping the paradigm stuff and just answer the questions. Most are very simple and can be

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?---Part 2

2002-10-04 Thread GJTabor
Glenn - I wonder because of what you believe about Jesus. This is the bottom line. If you are wrong on Jesus, you are outside of God. If you are trusting in Jesus plus Mormonism then that is wrong. If you are trusting in works for salvation then that is wrong because salvation is not of works,

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-04 Thread CHamm56114
In a message dated 10/4/2002 8:07:07 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason it is simple is because -- if Jesus had children they would be half Gods. This just doesn't compute in my mind. If Jesus had a family - wife/children etc Then why didn't he make mention of

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-04 Thread Michael Douglas
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: REALLY!?!?!?!?!?. Brother Glenn, you made the statement.. "If it CAN be taken literal it MUST be taken literal." And..I'd be happy if other TTers would share their thoughts with me on this

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-04 Thread Michael Douglas
is Jesus the brother of Satan? DAVEH: Yes,..as a "spirit brother" to Lucifer, DavidM, myself and You. I believe our Heavenly Father created all of us as spirit children in the pre-mortal existence. Jesus is our Elder Brother. And as Blaine explained, the rest of us were as

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-04 Thread Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenn - I mean Mormons seem to determine who is going to be with God in the 3rd have (Mormons only) by their doctrinal beliefs and their religious organization. I determine who will be with God in the 3rd heaven by their life. DAVEH: Hardly. You have expressed a desire

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-04 Thread Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason it is simple is because -- if Jesus had children they would be half Gods. DAVEH: LOL..Your logic is simplistic and flawed. This just doesn't compute in my mind. DAVEH: That is because your premise is flawed. You are also a child of God, yet I doubt that

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?---Part 2

2002-10-04 Thread Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenn - I wonder because of what you believe about Jesus. This is the bottom line. If you are wrong on Jesus, you are outside of God. If you are trusting in Jesus plus Mormonism then that is wrong. If you are trusting in works for salvation then that is wrong because

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?---Part 2

2002-10-04 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: No matter how plain the Bible might appear to be about matters, men can twist it to their own destruction if they want to. DAVEH: I agree. To me it seems logical that the more Scripture we have, the less likely that will be. I don't quite understand why Bible only

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-04 Thread Michael Douglas
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DAVEH: I respectfully disagree. Cannot God create another God? Both cannot be true in my mind. He is according to John 1:1 equal to God. He is not the brother of anyone. DAVEH: You may not consider him your Elder Brother, but I do..even though

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-04 Thread Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenn - Wrong. I have not expressed a DESIRE for anyone to go to hell fire. Wrong number 2. I have not said people go to hell fire for not having a chance to accept Jesus. I have given you Romans 1 as the answer DAVEH: THAT is an answer? IF I said Romans 2 said just the

Re: [TruthTalk] Is the Bible Complete?--Part 1

2002-10-04 Thread GJTabor
Not if that person was not saved on earth. Why? The Bible. I said this a long time ago, but Mormons want to add to this verse. I believe the Bible only on this verse. "It is appointed unto man once to die and after this the judgment." It does not say, and after this... a chance if a Mormon has