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How Kevin treats someone who is willing to listen to him for an extended period of time has little to do
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Freemasonry
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Thank Lance-I will look at it -God willing.
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There is, Dean, more to everyone. For an excellent example of this see 'Crash'. Rent
NOTE: There are 2 films with this title. Rent the
one released in 2005 with Sandra Bullock..
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Thank Lance
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I have had several encounters with SPs over the years, Dean. And I have observed Kevin's approach to ministry here on TT, not to mention
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I have had several encounters with SPs over the years, Dean. And I have observed Kevin's approach to ministry here on TT, not to mention
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I have had several encounters with SPs over the years, Dean. And I have observed Kevin's approach to ministry here on TT, not to mention others who have drifted
Kevin spent a lot of time researching and posting to
this list and it was always informative
I have to admire his persistence as well as his zeal
and I miss his presence here every day.
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How Kevin treats someone who is willing to
Your opinion is duly noted.
jd
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Kevin spent a lot of time researching and posting to this list and it was always informative
I have to admire his persistence as well as his zeal and I miss his presence here
It was a purely pragmatic decision. It was NOT a revelation.
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Blainerb: The Lord'swords never cease--he is the same yesterday, today and forever. Look in your Bible. The words
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Blainerb: You may have a point there, David--the value of the
propertybeing offered to the city by the LDS Church was no small amount
(but it is conjectural only). Rocky gave his reasons, which
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Hey Judy, I've got a question for you: When Street
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Blainerb: You may have a point there, David--the value of the propertybeing offered to the city by the LDS Church was no small amount
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Hi Dean. My question was to Judy. If when she answers it, you still want to have a discussion, just say so and I'll come back to your
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Hi Dean. My question was to Judy.
"Judge not according to the appearance, but
judge righteous judgment"
Jesus the Christ (John
7:24)
Blaine are you saying that Dylan's pointing the
finger at others is righteous?
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 01:32:37 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judge not that ye be not judged--
Blainerb
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Blainerb: What John andbrother Moore have written belowis the crux of what God meant when he told Joseph Smith that the Protestant ministers of the day taught
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60 years old. I think I am five or six years younger than Judy -- that would make her the matriarch of the forum.
jd
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Blainerb: What John andbrother Moore have written belowis the crux of what God meant when he told Joseph Smith
Amen Dean, Amen!
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:02:44 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
60 years old. I think I am five or six years
younger than Judy -- that would make her the matriarch of the
forum. jd
cd: Age and wisdom goes together-if God enlightens. Word while it
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Freemasonry
"Judge not according to the appearance, but
judge righteous judgment"
Jesus the Christ (John
7:24)
Blaine are you saying that Dylan's pointing
the finger at othe
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Hey Judy, I've got a question for you: When Street Preachers point their fingers at Blaine and say 'Repent or you're going to hell
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Hey Judy, I've got a question for you: When Street Preachers point
their fingers at Blaine and say 'Repent
'amen' that, that
greater revelationprovides aslooo ofinnocuous
commentary
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 01:08:09 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
AMEN to Dylan's insightful song--liked especially the part about sweatin'
. . . maybe like in the Garden of G? :)
Blainerb
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2006 3:09
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormonism
Freemasonry
"Judge not according to the appearance, but
judge righteous judgment"
Jesus the Christ (John
7:24)
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 01:32:37 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
, 2006 18:10
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Freemasonry(update on remnant of Jacob)
Blainerb: What John
andbrother Moore have written belowis the crux of what God
meant when he told Joseph Smith that the Protestant ministers of the day
taught doctrines of men, which had
How does one point a finger over the
internet? You'd need a pretty long finger wouldn't
you?
It's a different playing field and Blaine gives
as good as he gets.
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 08:40:27 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hey Judy, I've got a question for you: When Street
How does one point a finger lyrically, Judy?
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How does one
Er, uh no, as a matter of fact, I was wondering why you were passing
judgement on poor ol' Dylan? :) Maybe you are wrong about the
poor fella. He might have his faults, but don't we all?
Blaine
In a message dated 1/8/2006 3:11:57 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Someone walking in the fear of God would be
aware that he needs to clean up his own backyard
before lamenting the fate of
others.Excluding ministry gifts of course- but I don't
seetravelling
minstrels listedamong
them.
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:55:20 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Er,
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Blainerb: What John
andbrother Moore have written belowis the crux of what Go
In a message dated 1/8/2006 8:30:42 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hey
Judy, I've got a question for you: When Street Preachers point their fingers
at Blaine and say 'Repent or you're going to hell!" is that
righteous?
Blainerb: Answer, but from Blaine, not
In a message dated 1/8/2006 11:29:43 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaine are you saying that Dylan's pointing
the finger at others is
righteous?
No. I was saying your doing that was, ahem, a little suspect, is
all.
Blainerb
BT said
this?
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 19:53:10 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 1/8/2006 11:29:43 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaine are you saying that Dylan's pointing the finger at
others is righteous?
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In a message dated 1/8/2006 8:30:42 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hey Judy, I've got a question for you: When
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Freemasonry(update on remnant of Jacob)
Blainerb: What John
andbrother Moore have written belowis the crux
In a message dated 1/8/2006 12:51:44 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaine:
I have an audio tape, surreptitiously obtained, of the thenprophet
(1978)describing the 'revelation' (political decision) to permit
non-whites into the priesthood.
I was present in a
Not hardly.
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BT said
this?
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 19:53:10 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED
In a message dated 1/8/2006 2:06:16 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Someone walking in the fear of God would be
aware that he needs to clean up his own backyard
before lamenting the fate of
others.Excluding ministry gifts of course- but I
don't
myth ("God..giveth to all men liberally . . . " ,
but not
necessarily wisdom, Bro;
when you're
actuallyinterested in that, James says "ask")
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 20:18:40 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 1/8/2006 2:06:16 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Blainerb: You may have a point there, David--the value of the
propertybeing offered to the city by the LDS Church was no small amount
(but it is conjectural only). Rocky gave his reasons, which appeared
in print and on TV several times, and included were his personal experiences
watching
..actually,James
also tells us Who to "ask", exclusively, Bro
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 18:27:43 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
myth ("God..giveth to all men liberally . . . " ,
but
not necessarily wisdom, Bro;
when you're
actuallyinterested in that, James says "ask")
On Sun, 8
Hmmm! Dylan ought to be much more
concerned about being him on that day.
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 21:25:35 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, your clock is gonna stopAt Saint
Peter's gate.Ya gonna ask him what time it is,He's gonna say, "It's
too late."Hey, hey!_I'd sure hate to be
Actually, the G man has given us one of Dylan's better quotes.
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Hmmm! Dylan ought to be much more concerned about being him on that day.
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 21:25:35 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well,
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kidding, of course. Actually, I am going to use the bat at the local batting cages. The closest thing to physical
7/2006 12:55:32 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
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kid
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kidding, of course. Actually, I am going to use the bat at the local batting cages. The closest thing to physical excercise that I really want to get, in my old age.
jd
cd: How old are you John? I
AMEN to Dylan's insightful song--liked especially the part about sweatin' .
. . maybe like in the Garden of G? :)
Blainerb
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, the G man has given us one of Dylan's better quotes.
Judge not that ye be not judged--
Blainerb
In a message dated 1/7/2006 3:23:17 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hmmm! Dylan ought to be much more
concerned about being him on that day.
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 21:25:35 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
G, let me know when you get my check for the bat. That's right, Dean !! I'm buying a bat !!
jd
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..what if, perhaps. elemental to BTs commentary, there genuinely appears to bea qualitatively greater revelation thanyour
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G, let me know when you get my check for the bat. That's right, Dean !! I'm buying a bat !!
jd
cd: What type of bat
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G, let me know when you get my check for the bat. That's right, Dean !! I'm buying a bat !!
jd
cd: What type of bat and what do you plan to do wit
Well, your clock is gonna stopAt Saint
Peter's gate.Ya gonna ask him what time it is,He's gonna say, "It's too
late."Hey, hey!_I'd sure hate to be youOn that dreadful
day._
You're gonna start to sweatAnd you ain't gonna
stop.You're gonna have a nightmareAnd never wake up.Hey, hey,
hey!I'd
e.g., let's say BT
(of TT)confidently commentscreatively onnecessities (also,
germane to Protestant thought, i suspect)disclosed discreetly from certain
revelation per se and all that you(two
cult-apostles like DavidM)would have to say about it is that he
(too)rejects 'greater revelation'?
..what if, perhaps.
elemental to BTs commentary, there genuinely appears to bea qualitatively
greater revelation thanyour 'greater revelation'?
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:18:48 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
e.g., let's say
BT (of TT)confidently commentscreatively onnecessities
In a message dated 1/3/2006 9:51:55 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaine, do you consider protestants to be pagans?
Blainerb: No, I consider Protestants to be the Gentiles spoken of in
the BoM who had the Bible, which was God's word, and upon whom the Spirit of God
what Protestants would say
they need it?
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||
..Protestants ..have rejected the greater
revelation,
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..partic while
becomgknown for rejecting papal 'greater revelation'
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 21:15:39 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
what Protestants would
say they need it?
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 21:07:00 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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..Protestants ..have rejected the
..whose 'revelation' is
'greater'--Pope
Juliusor JSs?
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 21:23:15 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..partic while
becomgknown for rejecting papal 'greater
revelation'
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 21:15:39 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
what Protestants would
..how about Leoor JP2's--can you
see Protestants rejectgtheir authority inc the authority oftheir
'greater revelation'but acceptg someone else's relatively innocuous
commentary?
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 21:34:04 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..whose 'revelation' is
'greater'--Pope
..among corrupt
authority/s rejected by Protestants one mayinclude Hitler's, too--Nazis
were not Protestants even thoughmany Protestantsbecame Nazi/s--a
brute fact whichrelates directly to (true, bothcontemporary
historic,) Protestants consistently rejecting 'greater
revelation'
On Wed,
DAVEH: Certainly, none on TT.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what Protestants would
say they need it?
On Wed, 4
Jan 2006 21:07:00 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
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..Protestants
..have rejected the greater revelation,
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Blainerb: "Supposed to have?" Judging from the
"plethora" of records about the Tower of Babel, and what went on then, can you
even say "supposed" with any degree of assurance? :) I mean,
let's face it, what we have on the Tower of Babel, is vry scant,
indeed. The BoM gives a fairly
No doubt about it, those ancient groups were doing bad stuff, fertility
cultism included. But what I am saying is documenting something from
ancient times is always hard, and I seriously doubt tracing Freemasonry back to
those times could be done with so much confidence in the findingsas to
Blaine, do you consider protestants to be pagans?
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 23:06:52 EST
No doubt about it, those ancient groups were doing bad stuff
Probably; Constantine supposedly christianized pagan
festivals for these two celebrations and now they have
become westernized traditions.
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:02:09 -0800 Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
rituals are based on the old Fertility Cult mystery religions which
is
the same
No it is way before that; the ancient fertility cults
were practised in Canaan before God destroyed the Amorites.
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:01:12 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blainerb: Freemasonry is obviously descended from the
time when the Jews returned from the Babylonian captivity
Actually, it is supposed to have started with the tower of Babel, and
the master builders who were to construct it.
Terry
Judy Taylor wrote:
No it is way before that; the ancient fertility cults
were practised in Canaan before God destroyed the Amorites.
On
Tue, 27 Dec 2005
DAVEH: Thank you for your honest response, Judy.
Judy Taylor wrote:
Probably; Constantine supposedly
christianized pagan festivals for these two celebrations and now they
have
become westernized traditions.
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:02:09 -0800 Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
] Mormonism
Freemasonry
In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:14:52 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..are one and the same 'spirit'. The 'degrees'
in Mormonism correspond to the 'degrees' in freemasonry. DANGEROUS
STUFF!
There is no provable relationship
In a message dated 12/26/2005 11:52:23 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Add to
this the fact that JS was himself a mason of at least the 32nd
degree,
Blainerb: I assure you there are not anywhere near 32 degrees
in Mormon temple ceremonies. There are NO degrees
I am not aware of one, except to say, as JS did, that he joined the
Freemasons to obtain whatever friendship and support they might offer in times
of duress--as you are probably aware, he was arrested on false charges many
times--0ver 40 times, as I recall--and abused both physically and
In a message dated 12/26/2005 11:52:23 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Blaine,
I beg to differ. I have read two books, side by side, one
of the Mormon temple endowment, and one of Freemasonry, and the
similarities are unmistakable, from the the clothing and
In a message dated 12/26/2005 11:52:23 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Lets add to this some new information...the Freemasons, in
their ceremonies, pay homage to several Egyptian gods. Now, you have told
us that JS writes in the PoGP that one of hte names of god
I have read the same Blaine and the Freemasonry
rituals are based on the old Fertility Cult mystery religions which is
the same kind of paganism that got the Canaanite Nations exiled from the Promised Land and
destroyed. There is a
sexual aspect to both. jt
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:06:14 EST
Blainerb: Freemasonry is obviously descended from the
time when the Jews returned from the Babylonian captivity to Jerusalem to
rebuild their temple and the walls of the city. It is one thing to
say such as you have stated below, but quite another to show beyond reasonable
doubt that your
rituals are based on the old Fertility Cult mystery
religions which is
the same kind of paganism that got the Canaanite Nations
exiled from the Promised Land and destroyed.
DAVEH: Could not the same argument be made about Christmas and
Easter, Judy?
http://www.ccg.org/english/s/p235.html
..are one and the same 'spirit'. The 'degrees' in
Mormonism correspond to the 'degrees' in freemasonry. DANGEROUS
STUFF!
In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:14:52 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..are one and the same 'spirit'. The 'degrees' in
Mormonism correspond to the 'degrees' in freemasonry. DANGEROUS
STUFF!
There is no provable relationship. If there was, you would do more
Does the Mormon Church have an expressed opinion regarding freemasonary?
jd
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In a message dated 12/26/2005 5:14:52 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
..are one and the same 'spirit'. The 'degrees' in
follower of JS.
Like father, like son.
Perry
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