Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2006-01-03 Thread Lance Muir
draw our attention to it so, not to worry about that. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 02, 2006 14:18 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ Lance wrote: When the Mormons speak of 'a historical christ

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2006-01-02 Thread David Miller
David Miller wrote: The use of CE for a date kind of gives away their bias, doesn't it. :-) DAVEH: The way you said that, it somewhat implies you think you have no biases, DavidM. :-\ I'm biased toward naming our centuries after Christ our Creator. Any other bias is the wrong bias

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2006-01-02 Thread Lance Muir
: January 02, 2006 09:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ David Miller wrote: The use of CE for a date kind of gives away their bias, doesn't it. :-) DAVEH: The way you said that, it somewhat implies you think you have no biases, DavidM. :-\ I'm biased toward naming our

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2006-01-02 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: Offended at the 'name' of WHICH JESUS CHRIST, DavidM? The Mormon jesus seems to cause you little offence! I'm talking about the NAME Christ. Mormons use the same name, Lance, or haven't you noticed? Peace be with you. David Miller -- Let your speech be always with

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2006-01-02 Thread Lance Muir
@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 02, 2006 11:11 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ Lance wrote: Offended at the 'name' of WHICH JESUS CHRIST, DavidM? The Mormon jesus seems to cause you little offence! I'm talking about the NAME Christ. Mormons use the same name, Lance, or haven't you noticed

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2006-01-02 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: Syntax/Semantics, DavidM. When the NAME is employed, it is filled out with a meaning. If your meaning and theirs (the Mormons) is one and the same then, that's your problem. In regards to our date system, when I say BC or AD, I think we are talking about the same historical

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2006-01-02 Thread Lance Muir
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 02, 2006 11:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ Lance wrote: Syntax/Semantics, DavidM. When the NAME is employed, it is filled out with a meaning. If your meaning and theirs (the Mormons) is one and the same then, that's

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2006-01-02 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: IFF BC/AD/BCE as employed by Mormon/Christian are absent CONTENT then, indeed you are correct. IMO, no word is employed without content, DavidM, therefore, you are INCORRECT. When the Mormons speak about the historical Christ, are they talking about a different person? I don't

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2006-01-02 Thread Lance Muir
: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ Lance wrote: IFF BC/AD/BCE as employed by Mormon/Christian are absent CONTENT then, indeed you are correct. IMO, no word is employed without content, DavidM, therefore, you are INCORRECT. When the Mormons speak about the historical Christ, are they talking about

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2006-01-02 Thread Charles Perry Locke
-- often punctuated; Common Era -- often punctuated Dictionary.com: ComĀ·mon Era n. Abbr. C.E. The period coinciding with the Christian era. Perry From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2006-01-02 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: When the Mormons speak of 'a historical christ', David, they speak of THEIR HISTORICAL CHRIST. I think you are letting your bias and sectarianism get in the way. How many historical Christ's have their been? Do you really think the Mormons are speaking historically of someone

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2006-01-02 Thread knpraise
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Sent: January 02, 2006 12:16 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ Lance wrote: IFF BC/AD/BCE as employed by Mormon /Christian are absent CONTENT then, indeed you are correct.

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2005-12-31 Thread Dave
] The cross of Christ There is no doubt that the cross was extremely important and emphasized by the primitive Christians, much more so than by most Christians today. DAVEH: I've found a few comments that suggest some early Christians were less than enamored by the cross

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2005-12-31 Thread Dave
DAVEH: The way you said that, it somewhat implies you think you have no biases, DavidM. :-\ David Miller wrote: Terry wrote: What bis with this CE nonsense? It is Anno Domini, the year of our Lord..If you have a Lord. CE is for Lost sinners, not saved ones.

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2005-12-30 Thread Lance Muir
DAVID:I may have missed your reply to the 'spirit of freemasonry/mormonism' thingy. Did you reply? - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 29, 2005 17:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ Most

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2005-12-30 Thread David Miller
Terry wrote: What bis with this CE nonsense? It is Anno Domini, the year of our Lord..If you have a Lord. CE is for Lost sinners, not saved ones. Nice observation, Terry. The use of CE for a date kind of gives away their bias, doesn't it. :-) Peace be with you. David Miller.

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2005-12-29 Thread Dave
DAVEH: OK Terry.I understand your feelings about that. I'll try to behave myself, as I sure don't want to be visited by the terminator again :-( Terry Clifton wrote: Yeah, I have a big problem viewing anything that minimizes Christ. In this case though, I will forgive you. If

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2005-12-29 Thread David Miller
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 1:38 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ There is no doubt that the cross was extremely important and emphasized by the primitive Christians, much more so than by most Christians today. DAVEH: I've found

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2005-12-28 Thread Terry Clifton
What bis with this CE nonsense? It is Anno Domini, the year of our Lord..If you have a Lord. CE is for Lost sinners, not saved ones. Terry Dave wrote: There is no doubt that the cross was extremely important and emphasized by the primitive Christians, much more so than

[TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2005-12-27 Thread David Miller
The power of the cross is found in the "turn the other cheek" doctrine of Christ. Jesus said that his disciples must take up their cross and follow him. It is the doctrine of self denial, illustrated most perfectly by Jesus going to the cross to die for us. Without the cross, you have just

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2005-12-27 Thread Dave
An apprehension of the crossis so important that it truly makes a difference between those who are born from above and those who are not. DAVEH: Do you believe the Primitive Christians had that apprehension? David Miller wrote: The power of the cross is found in the "turn the

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2005-12-27 Thread David Miller
DAVEH: Do you believe the Primitive Christians had that apprehension? Yes, absolutely. Just look at how much the New Testament writes about the cross. The earliest of the church fathers also wrote about the cross. Ignatius of the first century magnified the cross even more than Paul did.

Re: [TruthTalk] The cross of Christ

2005-12-27 Thread Dave
There is no doubt that the cross was extremely important and emphasized by the primitive Christians, much more so than by most Christians today. DAVEH: I've found a few comments that suggest some early Christians were less than enamored by the cross The use of the cross as a