Re: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers & Judging

2005-02-18 Thread Bill Taylor
No, not at all. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers & Judging Are you implying that this scripture teaches us NOT to ever j

Re: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers & Judging

2005-02-18 Thread Kevin Deegan
Are you implying that this scripture teaches us NOT to ever judge?Bill Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, remember when the time comes that it was you who said that, and not me: "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back

Re: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers Vindicated!

2005-02-18 Thread David Miller
Charges were dropped today against Lauren Murch. Lauren's dad Bruce has a report on his website at: http://www.fullquivermission.com/ Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man."

RE: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers

2005-01-20 Thread Slade Henson
treet Preachers Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers   I would say I have removed form the "street preachers" I knew. Put it this way...I was unfortunately blessed with the presence of Daniel Lee and many others of his kind.  Kay   I suspect tha

RE: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers

2005-01-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:52 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers   LOL Where do you get this stuff?     I cannot lie: The Holy Spirit

RE: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers

2005-01-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
LOL Where do you get this stuff?   Seems Dan Lee has a propensity for that kind of relationship, it follows him like sheepShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers   I would say I have removed form the "street preachers" I knew. Put

RE: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers

2005-01-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers   I would say I have removed form the "street preachers" I knew. Put it this way...I was unfortunately blessed with the presence of Daniel Lee and many others of his kind.  Kay   I suspect that Daniel Lee is to Street

RE: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers

2005-01-19 Thread Slade Henson
DeeganSent: Wednesday, 19 January, 2005 11.49To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers You are correct Matt & his crowd are Activists   So basically the answer is NO you really do not have access to much in the way of SP's Your original commen

RE: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers

2005-01-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
You are correct Matt & his crowd are Activists   So basically the answer is NO you really do not have access to much in the way of SP's Your original comment led me to believe you did.Slade Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about this I know Matt Trewhella and his group. I attended Matt's

RE: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers

2005-01-19 Thread Slade Henson
How about this I know Matt Trewhella and his group. I attended Matt's church a couple of times. I attended a protest with Matt's group and have seen their protests many times, over several years. I supported most of them. A few of his missionaries are personal friends of ours, one being

Re: [TruthTalk] Street Preachers - No Danger

2004-02-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
http://www.harktheherald.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=14802&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 Conference protesters pose no dangerSunday, February 22, 2004 - 12:00 AM The Daily Herald | Protesters long have used the forum of LDS General Conference to express their views. N

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
I am very sorrE, I never gradEated Frum Grade school I got kicked out for Rebuking the LDS kids.   Considering your new found interest in Grammar. Let me help you out; it should be: which any fifth gradeR could handle with ease.  (:>) Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Blaine:  Shouldn

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
OK so Lonnie is not a college professor. What is your point? Just another personal attack? What does this have to do with anything?   Just the same old same old. Are you saying do not listen to Lonnie he is not as cultured as you? OR Do not believe a word Lonnie says, he uses DOUBLE NEGATIVES BY TH

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
Contrary to LDS opinion there is NO SUCH THING as a "Free Speech PERMIT" True separation of Church & State precludes government from favoring one religion over another. Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
our fold last year by all these dramatic maneuverings?  I dare say Ruben is an artist first, and a preacher second.  He should stick to Shakespherean drama--he would be in his element, then. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-14 Thread Blaine Borrowman
drama--he would be in his element, then. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Here is so video of Ruben preaching with Sacred Magic

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-14 Thread Blaine Borrowman
  - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech   Kevin writes: LDS church wants Salt lake City to favor one religion over another.   Blaine

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-13 Thread Blaine Borrowman
 Lonnie Pursifull, , one of the street preachers, says the church's suggestions cannot be applied to them because they are exercising their religion, not speech. "We will not be put in a box. The Mormon Church is trying to do everything in its power to stop us from exposing them."     As for

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-13 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Blaine:  Shouldn't "lake" be capitalized?  (:>) By the way, Kevin, in some of my posts, I noticed you re-posted them with what appeared to be some small changes made--I went back and checked my originals, and sure enough, you had changed them by inserting things like, %$^& , in the middle o

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
Here is so video of Ruben preaching with Sacred Magic Underwear What is so obscene about it?   http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?sid=75354&nid=8REAL VIDEO http://helix.ksl.com/video/ksl/1/116/11628.ramSalt Lake Mayor Considers New Rules For Main Street Plaza BehaviorFeb. 13, 2004 Salt Lake Mayor Rocky An

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-09 Thread irebukeu
Blaine: Aww, you guys are just being defensive. Maybe you should follow the advice af an old sage I once knew--he was LDS Pres David O McKay. He said, "Avoid even the appearance of evil." Maybe you guys need to try doing that on your next round of harrassing the honorable Mormon people. Then y

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-09 Thread irebukeu
Blaine: Ruben, I would like to describe in detail what they do in what they call the washing and annointing rooms, but do not feel I should--not because it is so much a secret, it is just a sacred ordinance. Ruben: What is it, with the touchy feely stuff? This is not the doctor Laura show.this i

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-09 Thread Dave
irebukeu wrote: > DAVEH: Hm...I sometimes wonder why some non LDS folks are so > anxious to get inside the Temples, Rubin. Are you one who wants to do so? > > Ruben: > DAVEH is it my fault that your church is so secretive on matters? Why not > have me do a walk throughwith a frie

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-09 Thread irebukeu
DAVEH: Hm...I sometimes wonder why some non LDS folks are so anxious to get inside the Temples, Rubin. Are you one who wants to do so? Ruben: DAVEH is it my fault that your church is so secretive on matters? Why not have me do a walk throughwith a friend or three and take a lookski

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Dave
  Kevin Deegan wrote: All the Mumbo jumbo about HOLY SECRET PASSWORDS and SECRET Handshakes, reminds me of an adolescent club. Is the temple just Spanky's Clubhouse were secret stuff makes adults of stunted maturity feel special to the EXCLUSION of those Gentiles outside? DAVEH:   Hm...I

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
eing in one.  It is better than being in church singing hymns.  - Original Message - From: "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech > > Blaine:  You what?!?!

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
distant should work just fine in this case. The city needs to take action now, before things escalate and real harm is done. Anti-Mormon street preachers need to know that if they're going to pick a fight at Conference, they should be prepared to cool their heels in jail.   Blaine Borrowman <[E

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Blaine Borrowman
ebruary 08, 2004 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech > > Blaine:  You what?!?!  ROTFL!!!  This sounds like an old fashioned b/w> comedy starring the three stooges!!  LOL!!  You actually asked that> question?  Whew!  Were there any young women present?  No won

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
CTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 8:56 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Blaine wrote: > I disagree that it is because "men like to control > others and local government ALWAYS seeks to eliminate > free speech," a

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Make our seed holy? Why do cults always mix Sex & worship? Just another Pagan seX cult! Abraham was made righteous by a REDHEAD! Or was it a Brunette? D&C 132:37 Abraham received concubines, and they bore him children; and it was accounted unto him for righteousness http://scriptures.lds.org/dc/132

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Blaine Borrowman
  - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 8:56 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Blaine wrote: > I disagree that it is because "men like to control

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
he appearance of evil."  Maybe you guys need to try doing that on your next round of harrassing the honorable Mormon people.  Then you won't have so much explaining to do.  - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:28 AM Subject: R

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
rd  fellow whose name I didn't latch onto.  Were you that person? Blaine - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 7:20 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Blaine wrote:> These guys were just out the

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread irebukeu
Blaine: You what?!?! ROTFL!!! This sounds like an old fashioned b/w comedy starring the three stooges!! LOL!! You actually asked that question? Whew! Were there any young women present? No wonder !! Ruben: Blaine I hear this stuff from your members, you should hear the things these x-morm

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Blaine Borrowman
mon people.  Then you won't have so much explaining to do.  - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 6:28 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Blaine wrote:> Regarding t

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Blaine Borrowman
e - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 7:20 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Blaine wrote:> These guys were just out there screaming obscenities.    Since you are speaking about me, I was there at

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
See Exhibit 1:  Street preachers - 0 (arrests)   LDS - 2 (arrests) Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   - Original Message - From: "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [Truth

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
> wrote:   - Original Message - From: "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech > Blaine,> Regarding the article you posted from the Deseret News let me set the rec

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Blaine Borrowman
  - Original Message - From: "irebukeu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech > Blaine,> Regarding the article you posted from the Deseret News let me

RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Blaine wrote:> Regarding the yelling, waving underwear, etc, I am > not speaking from my personal experience.  I am > speaking of what I read about later in reliable > reports.   According to reports from various sources> --sister missionaries assigned to stand on the streets > with the street prea

RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread David Miller
Dean wrote: > Gal.1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach > any other gospel unto you then that which we have preached > unto you,let him be accused. 9. As we said before, so say > I now again,If any man preach any other gospel unto you > than that ye have received,let him be accused

RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-08 Thread Dean Moore
Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus > > If people need to be protected from the public speech of others, then > this is a clear statement that you do not believe in FREE speech. You > believe in CENSURED speech. You want only that speech which is > palatable and edifyi

RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-07 Thread David Miller
Blaine wrote:  > I disagree that it is because "men like to control > others and local government ALWAYS seeks to eliminate > free speech,"  although that may be what happens in  > some instances. Rather, I think it is to protect the > rights of the populace--which is the right not to have > t

RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
Blaine wrote:> These guys were just out there screaming obscenities.    Since you are speaking about me, I was there at the wedding party. Where you there? Or are you speaking third person? "These guys were just out there screaming obscenities" Go ahead tell us what obscene things were said. Or do

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-07 Thread irebukeu
Blaine, Regarding the article you posted from the Deseret News let me set the record straight for you or anyone who is reading. 1) I was there during the wedding at the your temple the day in question. We were asked to leave so the bride and groom can take pictures without our preaching in the back

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-07 Thread Kevin Deegan
C a "gospel Free zone", so the LDS can have FREE course!  From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 9:17 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech > Blaine wrote:> > ... I think the answ

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-07 Thread Blaine Borrowman
  - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 9:17 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech > Blaine wrote:> > ... I think the answer lies in the degree to w

RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-07 Thread David Miller
Blaine wrote: > ... I think the answer lies in the degree to which > free speech is allowed. Already you are setting yourself up to take out the word "free" in the word "free speech." If speech is restricted, it is not "free speech." Think about it. Blaine wrote: > Most if not all communities

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-07 Thread Dean Moore
      Dean Moore Fear God and keep His commandments/ trust Jesus     - Original Message - From: Blaine Borrowman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2/6/2004 6:46:55 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech This is a good question, but I think the answer lies in the degree

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-06 Thread Blaine Borrowman
ms being provoked by the agressiveness of the street preachers.  I even believe God raised him up for the present situation.  - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 5:40 PM Subject: RE: [Tr

RE: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-05 Thread David Miller
Blaine, why is Rocky Anderson and the Mormon church against free speech? Do you agree with their direction of becoming the thought police? Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ough

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-05 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech Hey Blaine how come you censored out the rest of the story? Not Faith promoting?  Here it is: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,5900

Re: [TruthTalk] street preachers/free speech

2004-02-05 Thread Kevin Deegan
Hey Blaine how come you censored out the rest of the story? Not Faith promoting?  Here it is: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,590040864,00.html But Anderson said the Constitution likely protects the preachers' ability to wear such garments. It would be similar to protections on flag burning,