Re: SPI reorg (was: Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-04-23 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi, I have shared a recent experience in this regard with comments inline. Thanks - Venkat On 4/20/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/29/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/27/07, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ One reason the SPI module is so large is

Re: SPI reorg (was: Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-04-20 Thread ant elder
On 3/29/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/27/07, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ One reason the SPI module is so large is that it does define many the interfaces for the components in you diagram. I think there is room for a reorganization there to clarify the usage

Re: SPI reorg (was: Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-30 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
ant elder wrote: On 3/27/07, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ One reason the SPI module is so large is that it does define many the interfaces for the components in you diagram. I think there is room for a reorganization there to clarify the usage of those interfaces. I would

SPI reorg (was: Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-29 Thread ant elder
On 3/27/07, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ One reason the SPI module is so large is that it does define many the interfaces for the components in you diagram. I think there is room for a reorganization there to clarify the usage of those interfaces. I would propose we start with

Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-29 Thread Luciano Resende
Hi Sebastien I think it would be worth splitting contribution in two parts. - Contribution metadata: What's described in sca-contribution.xml and the relationships with the assembly and interface definition models (e.g. the list of deployables pointing to assembly composites, maybe also

Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-28 Thread ant elder
On 3/27/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ On one of the modularization threads it talked about trying to make SCDL and assembly more consumable like WSDL and WSDL4J, would that be the things in the Metadata Layer box at the bottom? No replies to this yet so I'll bring it up

Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-28 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Raymond Feng wrote: Hi, By reading through a bunch of e-mails on this mailing list and adding my imagination, I put together a conceptual diagram at the following wiki page to illustrate the kernel modulization.

Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-28 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
ant elder wrote: On 3/27/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ On one of the modularization threads it talked about trying to make SCDL and assembly more consumable like WSDL and WSDL4J, would that be the things in the Metadata Layer box at the bottom? No replies to this yet so

Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-28 Thread Jim Marino
Sorry for the delay, I've been out and then tied up at work... My first comment is most of the code is organized the way you describe. I do have several big issues with details: 1. A main tenet of the current runtime architecture is that there is one kernel implementation capable of being

Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-28 Thread Raymond Feng
Hi, Please see my comments inline. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization Nice diagram, Raymond, thanks for putting

Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-28 Thread Raymond Feng
Hi, Jim. Please see my comments inline. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: Jim Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization Sorry for the delay, I've been out

Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-27 Thread ant elder
This diagram looks good to me, i've always found it difficult that we don't have much in the way of architecture over view doc for Tuscany so this is helpful. On one of the modularization threads it talked about trying to make SCDL and assembly more consumable like WSDL and WSDL4J, would that be

Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-27 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Nice diagram, Raymond, thanks for putting this together. What I'm struggling with is that this seems fairly similar to the way the code is organized now. Most of the boxes there already exist and have interfaces to abstract away their implementation. Everything in Cross-cutting system

Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
the wholesale, revolutionary rewrite of the kernel...Pointers please to exact emails. thanks, dims On 3/27/07, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice diagram, Raymond, thanks for putting this together. What I'm struggling with is that this seems fairly similar to the way the code is

Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-27 Thread Jeremy Boynes
http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg15978.html http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg15991.html r522186 r521957 http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg15318.html in relation to r517804 And, of course, the code in SVN. Lastly, we've

Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
I don't see any of the following terms in those emails...Let me take another tack I think there is room for a reorganization there to clarify the usage of those interfaces.. Can you please send a write up in wiki on how to do the reorganization. You can either augment/enhance what Raymond wrote

Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-27 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Please keep Sebastien's emails in mind. Please don't throw all away all ideas from his work/email. The objective is to get everyone on the trunk. Let's try to find a way to get everyone to achieve their goals. We may not get there in the first release. But we should have a good story to go along

[Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-26 Thread Raymond Feng
Hi, By reading through a bunch of e-mails on this mailing list and adding my imagination, I put together a conceptual diagram at the following wiki page to illustrate the kernel modulization. http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANY/Kernel+Modulization+Design+Discussions This

Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-26 Thread Simon Laws
On 3/26/07, Raymond Feng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, By reading through a bunch of e-mails on this mailing list and adding my imagination, I put together a conceptual diagram at the following wiki page to illustrate the kernel modulization.

Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel modulization

2007-03-26 Thread Raymond Feng
Hi, I'm poor with colors :-(. I was trying to use different colors to represent related pieces. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Discussion] Tuscany kernel