Re: Java SCA - Including fix numbers in release docs

2007-05-29 Thread Luciano Resende
Just adding a little caveat here, that, only Resolved jiras can be bulk updated later on (when a release is approaching), jiras on the closed as fixed state need to be reopened in order to get edited. If we are going to use bulk updates, we should make everybody resolve the jiras, instead of

Re: Java SCA - Including fix numbers in release docs

2007-05-23 Thread ant elder
Yes +1 to XXX-Next. I really don't like making unnecessary 'rules' or policy or trying to restrict or control who can do something. If we can't find a less relaxed way to do this then I'd prefer to just not include the JIRA list in the release notes. Couldn't it just be whoever adds the jira

Re: Java SCA - Including fix numbers in release docs

2007-05-23 Thread Simon Laws
+1 XXX-Next I don't mind who assigns JIRA to the release number. It can't be done though until we know that the release number will be (was quite late in the last cycle). Hopefully we will do more frequent releases from now so there will be few JIRAs in the XXX-Next box and more with the actual

Re: Java SCA - Including fix numbers in release docs

2007-05-23 Thread kelvin goodson
I really don't like making unnecessary 'rules' or policy or trying to restrict or control who can do something I think you are probably right, that's why I suggested the alternative rule of thumb, which is nothing more than common sense really. I think the important thing is instilling an

Re: Java SCA - Including fix numbers in release docs

2007-05-22 Thread Simon Laws
OK, I agree. I note that SDO already does this. Any more thoughts about things we can do to improve the way we can all work in this area? What else do SDO, DAS do that SCA needs to do? Maybe we can come up with a checklist for the build and release up on the developer guide section of the web

Re: Java SCA - Including fix numbers in release docs

2007-05-22 Thread kelvin goodson
Java SDO has been doing this using an Java-SDO-Mx release rather than Java-SDO-Next, but as I said on IRC I think the Next naming is much better. I propose that we adopt the policy that no-one other than a release manager ever assigns anything other than a *Next value for the fix release of a

Re: Java SCA - Including fix numbers in release docs

2007-05-22 Thread ant elder
One of the problems with not assigning the specific fix version to JIRA's till the end is that you can't see whats outstanding from the JIRA overview page which is something I've found useful and have used it in past releases to manage what things need to get done. See

Re: Java SCA - Including fix numbers in release docs

2007-05-22 Thread kelvin goodson
I think my proposal is consistent with your desire to get the overview. When entering the new release phase, all JIRAs fixed in the period since the last release would be reclassified to the newly created version tag, along with all JIRAs that the community sees as important for the forthcoming

Re: Java SCA - Including fix numbers in release docs

2007-05-22 Thread Luciano Resende
I think using XXX-Next seems more appropriate now, that we are going out of milestone releases. As for the JIRA process, I think that Kevin's original proposal seems good and would be consistent no matter witch phase of development/release we are, it also leaves room to the Release Manager to

Java SCA - Including fix numbers in release docs

2007-05-21 Thread Simon Laws
This time round, as so much had changed, we didn't include JIRA numbers in the release docs. It seems like a good thing to do in the future though. If everyone agrees that this is a good thing we need to be fairly organized about how we use JIRA otherwise we suffer a lot of pain come release time

Re: Java SCA - Including fix numbers in release docs

2007-05-21 Thread haleh mahbod
It would be good if all subprojects used whatever scheme it is agreed to so a developer going across projects does not have to think about adjusting. On 5/21/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This time round, as so much had changed, we didn't include JIRA numbers in the release docs. It

Re: Java SCA - Including fix numbers in release docs

2007-05-21 Thread Luciano Resende
I agree with Haleh, we should try to have consistence on areas common to all Tuscany sub-projects, JIRA, Distributions, Release Process, etc On 5/21/07, haleh mahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be good if all subprojects used whatever scheme it is agreed to so a developer going across