Re: Versioning of Tuscany

2008-06-13 Thread Graham Charters
be good if we could agree on a place to start, so we can learn. Regards, Graham. 2008/6/12 Rajini Sivaram [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 6/12/08, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am very pleased to see this discussion happening. My thoughts below. Simon Rajini Sivaram wrote: On 6/12/08, Graham

Re: Tracking Tuscany extensions, was: Distribution zips and what they contain, was: SCA runtimes

2008-06-12 Thread Graham Charters
+1 from me also. We shouldn't confuse modularity purely with versioning or whether something can be used on its own. It's also about being able to make different combinations of modules to fit different deployment profiles. I think it was Ant who first brought up the distinction between what

Re: Versioning of Tuscany

2008-06-12 Thread Graham Charters
Hi Rajini, I think your summary on the wiki is great. I have a couple of comments: 1. I believe SpringSource try to create sensible version ranges based on the versioning governance of the project, such as that of Apache [1]. I have no doubt this takes quite a bit of effort and there are a

Re: Tracking Tuscany extensions, was: Distribution zips and what they contain, was: SCA runtimes

2008-06-11 Thread Graham Charters
If we assume one bundle per Tuscany module for developers, perhaps there's a need for a separate concept that provides a simplified view for users? The SpringSource Application Platform has the concept of a library, which has caused much debate in the OSGi world (it has its own manifest header).

Re: Tracking Tuscany extensions, was: Distribution zips and what they contain, was: SCA runtimes

2008-06-11 Thread Graham Charters
2008/6/11 ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Rajini Sivaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ,snip You have probably read this already, but others may find Neil Bartlett's discussion useful: http://www.eclipsezone.com/articles/extensions-vs-services/ Great article,

Re: Tracking Tuscany extensions, was: Distribution zips and what they contain, was: SCA runtimes

2008-06-11 Thread Graham Charters
Hi Rajini, couple of comments below 2008/6/11 Rajini Sivaram [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 6/11/08, Graham Charters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we assume one bundle per Tuscany module for developers, perhaps there's a need for a separate concept that provides a simplified view for users

Re: OSGi-enable 3rd party libraries in Tuscany

2008-05-29 Thread Graham Charters
FWIW, I agree with Sebastien and Rajini. I don't believe it's a coincidence that both SpringSource and ServiceMix went the route of adding manifests to the thirdparty jars. It keeps things simple and gives a better experience from an OSGi perspective. If we're serious about supporting OSGi we

[jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-2330) Calculator sample running in OSGi

2008-05-23 Thread Graham Charters (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-2330?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12599389#action_12599389 ] Graham Charters commented on TUSCANY-2330: -- Hi Rajini, sorry for taking so long

[jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-2330) Calculator sample running in OSGi

2008-05-21 Thread Graham Charters (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-2330?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12598616#action_12598616 ] Graham Charters commented on TUSCANY-2330: -- Hi Rajini, I think what you're

[jira] Created: (TUSCANY-2330) Calculator sample running in OSGi

2008-05-20 Thread Graham Charters (JIRA)
: Java-SCA-Next Environment: All Reporter: Graham Charters Fix For: Java-SCA-Next It would help with preserving OSGi support if an OSGi sample were run as a matter of course, rather than only by a small number of developers. This wish is to add the smallest sample

Re: Small OSGi sample for the main build?

2008-05-20 Thread Graham Charters
I've submitted a patch to add the sample (Jira 2330). 2008/5/20 ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sounds good to me. ...ant On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Graham Charters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I now have the Calculator sample running using all the great work Rajini did to use

[jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-2330) Calculator sample running in OSGi

2008-05-20 Thread Graham Charters (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-2330?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Graham Charters updated TUSCANY-2330: - Attachment: calculator-osgi-sample.patch Calculator sample running in OSGi

Re: Small OSGi sample for the main build?

2008-05-19 Thread Graham Charters
was degrading too much as we added more and more bundles. I noticed you'd switched over. I'll try the same. On 5/16/08, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graham Charters wrote: Below are a couple of runs, one taking 2 mins 50s and the second taking 1 min 8s. Both were done after mvn cleans

Re: Small OSGi sample for the main build?

2008-05-19 Thread Graham Charters
it as a patch for inclusion in the samples main build. Regards, Graham. 2008/5/19 Graham Charters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Rajini, 2008/5/18 Rajini Sivaram [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Graham, Is there any reason you didn't switch over to one-bundle-per-3rdparty jar? I couldn't get the itest/osgi-tuscany tests

Re: Small OSGi sample for the main build?

2008-05-16 Thread Graham Charters
? Regards, Graham. 2008/5/15 Mike Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Graham Charters wrote: Hi, I've been working on a small sample to act as an OSGi sniff test for Tuscany running in OSGi. It's basically a cut-down version of what Rajini has done in itest/osgi-tuscany and only runs the most

Re: Small OSGi sample for the main build?

2008-05-16 Thread Graham Charters
, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Graham Charters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Regarding Mike's build breaking comment, one of the reasons for including this in the main build is to have it break to flag when new dependencies are being

Small OSGi sample for the main build?

2008-05-14 Thread Graham Charters
Hi, I've been working on a small sample to act as an OSGi sniff test for Tuscany running in OSGi. It's basically a cut-down version of what Rajini has done in itest/osgi-tuscany and only runs the most basic Calculator sample. I still have some work to do to exclude all the things which aren't

Re: Need some help

2008-05-12 Thread Graham Charters
+1 to the SCA and PHP integration. If you're interested, I would be more than happy to help smooth the way with the associated SCA_SDO project on PECL (http://pecl.php.net/package/SCA_SDO). Regards, Graham. 2008/5/8 Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Simon Laws wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2008 at

Re: build failure in store-test

2008-05-06 Thread Graham Charters
I updated this morning and also saw the Segmentation Fault. I've since re-run and now only see the Exception. Further up on the build there's also the following SQL Exception: INFO: Starting node: http://localhost:9990/node-config/StoreClientNode Connecting to database:

Re: [jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-2285) Make sca-api automatically build as an OSGi bundle

2008-05-02 Thread Graham Charters
Environment: All Reporter: Graham Charters Priority: Minor Fix For: Java-SCA-Next Attachments: sca-api-bundle.patch Original Estimate: 0.5h Remaining Estimate: 0.5h Itest/osgi-tuscany creates an OSGi bundle for the sca

Re: Improving support for running in OSGi

2008-05-02 Thread Graham Charters
accelerate sensitizing folks to the issues. Regards, Graham. 2008/5/2 Rajini Sivaram [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 5/1/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graham Charters wrote: It would seem that the fine-grained/coarse-grained thoughts have people divided. Rajini's note

[jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-2285) Make sca-api automatically build as an OSGi bundle

2008-05-02 Thread Graham Charters (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-2285?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Graham Charters updated TUSCANY-2285: - Attachment: sca-api-bundle-2.patch The following patch logically results in the same

[jira] Created: (TUSCANY-2285) Make sca-api automatically build as an OSGi bundle

2008-05-01 Thread Graham Charters (JIRA)
: Java SCA Core Runtime, Java SCA OSGi Integration Affects Versions: Java-SCA-Next Environment: All Reporter: Graham Charters Priority: Minor Fix For: Java-SCA-Next Itest/osgi-tuscany creates an OSGi bundle for the sca-api module. As a step towards

[jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-2285) Make sca-api automatically build as an OSGi bundle

2008-05-01 Thread Graham Charters (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-2285?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Graham Charters updated TUSCANY-2285: - Attachment: sca-api-bundle.patch The patch does the following: Updates the sca-api

[jira] Created: (TUSCANY-2279) itest/osgi-tuscany broken (policy-ws missing)

2008-04-30 Thread Graham Charters (JIRA)
Integration Affects Versions: Java-SCA-Next Environment: All Reporter: Graham Charters Priority: Minor Fix For: Java-SCA-Next Looks like there's a new policy-ws module which has not been added to itest/osgi-tuscany so the dependency is missing, which

[jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-2279) itest/osgi-tuscany broken (policy-ws missing)

2008-04-30 Thread Graham Charters (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-2279?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Graham Charters updated TUSCANY-2279: - Attachment: Jira-2279-policy-ws-missing.patch The following add tuscany-policy

Re: Improving support for running in OSGi

2008-04-30 Thread Graham Charters
OSGi (RFC119) and the benefit to support that standard in Tuscany's OSGi bits. So from mid-term perspective I suggest to keep an eye on that as well. Regards, Philipp -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Graham Charters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Montag, 28. April 2008 09:48

Re: Improving support for running in OSGi

2008-04-30 Thread Graham Charters
of Distributed OSGi (RFC119) and the benefit to support that standard in Tuscany's OSGi bits. So from mid-term perspective I suggest to keep an eye on that as well. Regards, Philipp -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Graham Charters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Montag, 28

Re: Improving support for running in OSGi

2008-04-30 Thread Graham Charters
, is the ongoing standardization of Distributed OSGi (RFC119) and the benefit to support that standard in Tuscany's OSGi bits. So from mid-term perspective I suggest to keep an eye on that as well. Regards, Philipp -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Graham Charters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Improving support for running in OSGi

2008-04-30 Thread Graham Charters
Hi Raymond, thanks for your comments. I've added some more below. Regards, Graham. 2008/4/30 Raymond Feng [EMAIL PROTECTED]: More comments inline. Thanks, Raymond -- From: Graham Charters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30

Re: Improving support for running in OSGi

2008-04-29 Thread Graham Charters
Hi Simon, 2008/4/28 Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Graham Charters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ant, Thanks for the pointer to the earlier discussion. I can empathise with the problems Rajini was trying to address by having itest/osgi-tuscany

Improving support for running in OSGi

2008-04-28 Thread Graham Charters
Hi All, I'd like to get more involved in the OSGi support in Tuscany (both the modularity work (itest/osgi-tuscany) and the implementation.osgi). I recently started looking at the work to run Tuscany in OSGi, embodied in itest/osgi-tuscany and described in the thread entitled Classloading in

Re: Improving support for running in OSGi

2008-04-28 Thread Graham Charters
build in the future). Regards, Graham. On 28/04/2008, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Graham Charters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I'd like to get more involved in the OSGi support in Tuscany (both the modularity work (itest/osgi-tuscany

[jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-2254) Test failures in itest/osgi-tuscany (monitor missing)

2008-04-22 Thread Graham Charters (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-2254?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Graham Charters updated TUSCANY-2254: - Attachment: osgi-tuscany-patch.patch The following adds tuscany-monitor to the tuscany

[jira] Created: (TUSCANY-2254) Test failures in itest/osgi-tuscany (monitor missing)

2008-04-22 Thread Graham Charters (JIRA)
: Java SCA Core Runtime Affects Versions: Java-SCA-Next Environment: Found on Windows, but affects all. Reporter: Graham Charters Priority: Minor Fix For: Java-SCA-Next The newly added monitor modules, tuscany-monitor and tuscany-monitor-logging ,cause

ApacheCon US submissions

2008-04-01 Thread Graham Charters
Hi All, Is anyone thinking of submitting an abstract to ApacheCon US? FYI: The deadline is Thursday April 3rd (see http://www.us.apachecon.com/us2008/). A quick search for SOA or Tuscany on the current submissions gave no hits, so I'm assuming there aren't any so far. I was thinking of

Re: ApacheCon US submissions

2008-04-01 Thread Graham Charters
Hi Simon, what you describe is exactly what I had in mind :-) Regards, Graham. On 01/04/2008, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graham Charters wrote: Hi All, Is anyone thinking of submitting an abstract to ApacheCon US? FYI: The deadline is Thursday April 3rd (see http

[jira] Updated: (TUSCANY-2068) itest/osgi-implementation is broken due to recent changes

2008-03-14 Thread Graham Charters (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-2068?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Graham Charters updated TUSCANY-2068: - Attachment: implementation.osgi.txt This patch fixes the passbyreference (using

[jira] Created: (TUSCANY-1631) Support Decimal in SDO C++

2007-08-29 Thread Graham Charters (JIRA)
: Graham Charters Priority: Minor The SDO C++ spec does not address Decimal. The current Tuscany implementation uses String to represent Decimal to avoid loss of precision. It does not internally know that the type is Decimal nor surface any APIs (e.g. set/getDecimal) and therefore

[jira] Created: (TUSCANY-1632) Serialization of xsd:token allows invalid content in SDO C++

2007-08-29 Thread Graham Charters (JIRA)
Components: C++ SDO Reporter: Graham Charters Priority: Minor I can define an SDO based on an xml schema which uses the type xsd:token. This is mapped to a String SDO type. I can then create an SDO based off this model and set the string value of that property

Re: Intermittent exception from itest\osgi-implementation suite

2007-07-20 Thread Graham Charters
Apologies for the lack of response on this. Rajini is out on vacation for a few weeks and I'm still getting up to speed on the code. I'll let you know as soon as we get to the bottom of it. Regards, Graham. On 13/07/07, Luciano Resende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've temporarily removed the

Re: Status of C++ code generation

2007-07-17 Thread Graham Charters
Hi Andy/Pete, Yes, we do use this method in the PHP SDO code - thanks for remembering us :-) I think we need to draw a distinction between SDO C++ for applications and SDO C++ as an embeddable library. The SDO C++ spec covers the former and therefore does not talk about get/setUserData. The

Re: Status of C++ code generation

2007-07-17 Thread Graham Charters
. There should be only a small amount of rework required when you move the PHP code up to use a 2.1 spec SDO. Cheers, On 17/07/07, Graham Charters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andy/Pete, Yes, we do use this method in the PHP SDO code - thanks for remembering us :-) I think we need to draw

Re: Build problems

2007-07-11 Thread Graham Charters
, Graham Charters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Raymond, Thanks for the quick response. I tried mvn clean install and I'm still seeing the problem caused by the bad codegen-ecore-2.2.3.jar. It results in lots of errors to do with missing package org.eclipse.emf.codegen.ecore.genmodel. Regards

Build problems

2007-07-10 Thread Graham Charters
Hi, I'm trying to build Tuscany Java and have hit a couple of problems. I've started with a clean repository, and checked out the latest from svn (a few times throughout July 9th/10th). When I do mvn at the top level, I get a test case failure with the following exception:

Re: Build problems

2007-07-10 Thread Graham Charters
PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Please run mvn clean install. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: Graham Charters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tuscany-dev tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:56 AM Subject: Build problems Hi, I'm trying to build Tuscany Java and have hit

Re: Contribute to SCA-OSGi integration

2007-06-21 Thread Graham Charters
Nachricht- Von: Graham Charters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Juni 2007 17:10 An: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Betreff: Re: Contribute to SCA-OSGi integration Hi Nicole, My turn to chip in :-) I think both approaches are valid and tackle two different goals. If I understand

Re: Contribute to SCA-OSGi integration

2007-06-19 Thread Graham Charters
type with Spring-OSGi support. Could you please describe what you have in mind, e.g. where you are planning to declare the non-OSGi SCA Component? Thanks Nicole -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Graham Charters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2007 10:07

Re: Contribute to SCA-OSGi integration

2007-06-13 Thread Graham Charters
type. Is there any ongoing work in these areas? Graham Charters and I have been investigating the use of an OSGi implementation type which will enable existing OSGi bundles to be run as SCA components under Tuscany. We are particulary interested in the scenario where Tuscany is in control