Hi,

I now have the Calculator sample running using all the great work
Rajini did to use Equinox, 1 bundle per third-party library, and
absolute jar paths.  It results in 119 bundles, uses 19MB and takes
about 50 seconds to run.  If folks are ok with this, I will create a
Jira and submit it as a patch for inclusion in the samples main build.

Regards, Graham.

2008/5/19 Graham Charters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi Rajini,
>
> 2008/5/18 Rajini Sivaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Graham,
>>
>> Is there any reason you didn't switch over to one-bundle-per-3rdparty jar?
>>
>
> I couldn't get the itest/osgi-tuscany tests to pass and ran out of
> time :-( .  I've tried with the latest and most are now passing, but I
> still have 6 or 7 failures (varies).
>
>> I have replaced the manifest.jar file in itest/osgi-tuscany with an
>> osgi-installer.jar which accepts both absolute and relative pathnames for
>> jar files. The tests generate and use absolute pathnames, avoiding jar
>> copying. If we add this to the distribution, we can continue to use relative
>> pathnames to make the file portable.
>>
>
> That's great, thanks!  I'll take a look and give it a go with the
> Calculator sample.
>
>> Now itest/osgi-tuscany typically takes around 5.5 minutes to run on my T61,
>> and uses 50MB disk space for around 190 bundles. itest/osgi-tuscany
>> currently runs around 28 samples using OSGi bundle contributions for the
>> samples, and reruns 16 of these using non-OSGi contributions (ie, URL
>> classloaders for the contributions, OSGi classloaders for Tuscany). For the
>> calculator sample, I imagine the lowest that you can bring the time down to
>> may be around 30 seconds (down from 1 minute that you are currently able to
>> get). Apart from removing the manifest as Simon suggested (which will
>> improve both timing and disk usage), I am not sure it is worth putting too
>> much time into performance of the sample at this stage. You should be able
>> to use the osgi-installer from itest/osgi-tuscany as is, if you are happy to
>> use one-bundle-per-3rdparty jar.
>>
>
> I agree about the performance point.  I think 1 minute is a small sacrifice.
>
>> BTW, I had switched itest/osgi-tuscany to running under Equinox by default a
>> few days ago since Felix performance was degrading too much as we added more
>> and more bundles.
>>
>
> I noticed you'd switched over.  I'll try the same.
>
>>
>> On 5/16/08, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Graham Charters wrote:
>>>
>>>> Below are a couple of runs, one taking 2 mins 50s and the second
>>>> taking 1 min 8s.  Both were done after mvn cleans so the difference is
>>>> maybe due to my machine being under spec and paging.
>>>>
>>>> [INFO]
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> [INFO] Reactor Summary:
>>>> [INFO]
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> [INFO] Apache Tuscany OSGi - Tuscany 3rdParty Manifest Bundle for
>>>> Calculator Sample  SUCCESS [1:06.859s]
>>>> [INFO] Apache Tuscany OSGi - Tuscany Manifest Bundle for Calculator
>>>> Sample  SUCCESS [31.297s]
>>>> [INFO] Calculator Sample Running in an OSGi Framework ........ SUCCESS
>>>> [1:07.594s]
>>>> [INFO] Calculator Sample Running in an OSGi Framework ........ SUCCESS
>>>> [4.687s]
>>>> [INFO]
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> [INFO]
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> [INFO] Reactor Summary:
>>>> [INFO]
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> [INFO] Apache Tuscany OSGi - Tuscany 3rdParty Manifest Bundle for
>>>> Calculator Sample  SUCCESS [35.406s]
>>>> [INFO] Apache Tuscany OSGi - Tuscany Manifest Bundle for Calculator
>>>> Sample  SUCCESS [7.281s]
>>>> [INFO] Calculator Sample Running in an OSGi Framework ........ SUCCESS
>>>> [24.172s]
>>>> [INFO] Calculator Sample Running in an OSGi Framework ........ SUCCESS
>>>> [0.969s]
>>>> [INFO]
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> From the above, it seems that the major time cost is the building of
>>> the manifest bundles.  Graham's earlier note said that the third-party
>>> manifest bundle consumes 17.5MB of disk space.
>>>
>>> Could the time and space overheads be reduced by building virtual
>>> bundles (or a single virtual bundle) for the third-party libraries?
>>> As I understand it, this would save 17.5MB of disk space (as the
>>> third party libraries are already in my maven repo), and it would
>>> presumably take less time as nothing would need to be written to disk.
>>>
>>>  Simon
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2008/5/16 Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Simon Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Graham Charters <
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regarding Mike's build breaking comment, one of the reasons for
>>>>>>> including this in the main build is to have it break to flag when new
>>>>>>> dependencies are being introduced.  This will help us focus on
>>>>>>> improving Tuscany modularity, but also help us preserve the support
>>>>>>> for running in OSGi.  It will also give us a place to focus on keeping
>>>>>>> the core small.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I now have what I think is the smallest subset of modules, based on
>>>>>>> current dependencies.  My previous attempt took the approach of
>>>>>>> cutting down a distribution, but the latest was created by adding to
>>>>>>> the dependencies of the basic Calculator.  The net result is 47
>>>>>>> bundles, 49MB (33MB felix cache and 16MB third-party jars) and takes
>>>>>>> about 2.5 mins to build and run which does not seem like a big delta
>>>>>>> over and above the time taken to do a full Tuscany build and run all
>>>>>>> the samples.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The sca modules which are installed are:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tuscany-assembly-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-assembly-xml-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-assembly-xsd-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-binding-sca-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-contribution-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-contribution-impl-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-contribution-java-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-contribution-namespace-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-contribution-osgi-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-contribution-resource-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-contribution-xml-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-core-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-core-spi-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-databinding-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-databinding-json-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-definitions-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-definitions-xml-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-domain-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-domain-api-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-domain-impl-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-extensibility-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-host-embedded-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-host-http-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-implementation-java-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-implementation-java-runtime-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-implementation-java-xml-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-interface-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-interface-java-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-interface-java-jaxws-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-interface-java-xml-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-interface-wsdl-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-interface-wsdl-java2wsdl-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-interface-wsdl-xml-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-monitor-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-node-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-node-api-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-node-impl-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-osgi-runtime-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-policy-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-policy-security-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-policy-security-ws-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-policy-xml-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-policy-xml-ws-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> tuscany-sca-api-2.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The third-party jars (currently installed in a single bundle) are:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> activation-1.1.jar
>>>>>>> addressing-1.3.mar
>>>>>>> annogen-0.1.0.jar
>>>>>>> avalon-framework-4.1.3.jar
>>>>>>> axiom-api-1.2.5.jar
>>>>>>> axiom-dom-1.2.5.jar
>>>>>>> axiom-impl-1.2.5.jar
>>>>>>> axis2-adb-1.3.jar
>>>>>>> axis2-adb-codegen-1.3.jar
>>>>>>> axis2-codegen-1.3.jar
>>>>>>> axis2-java2wsdl-1.3.jar
>>>>>>> axis2-kernel-1.3.jar
>>>>>>> axis2-mtompolicy-1.3.jar
>>>>>>> backport-util-concurrent-2.2.jar
>>>>>>> bcprov-jdk15-132.jar
>>>>>>> cglib-nodep-2.1_3.jar
>>>>>>> commons-codec-1.3.jar
>>>>>>> commons-collections-3.1.jar
>>>>>>> commons-discovery-0.2.jar
>>>>>>> commons-fileupload-1.1.1.jar
>>>>>>> commons-httpclient-3.0.1.jar
>>>>>>> commons-io-1.2.jar
>>>>>>> commons-logging-1.1.jar
>>>>>>> geronimo-activation_1.1_spec-1.0-M1.jar
>>>>>>> geronimo-commonj_1.1_spec-1.0.jar
>>>>>>> geronimo-javamail_1.4_spec-1.0-M1.jar
>>>>>>> geronimo-jms_1.1_spec-1.1.jar
>>>>>>> httpcore-4.0-alpha5.jar
>>>>>>> httpcore-nio-4.0-alpha5.jar
>>>>>>> httpcore-niossl-4.0-alpha5.jar
>>>>>>> jaxb-api-2.1.jar
>>>>>>> jaxb-impl-2.1.6.jar
>>>>>>> jaxb2-reflection-2.1.4.jar
>>>>>>> jaxen-1.1-beta-9.jar
>>>>>>> jaxws-api-2.1.jar
>>>>>>> jettison-1.0.jar
>>>>>>> json-rpc-1.0.jar
>>>>>>> jsr181-api-1.0-MR1.jar
>>>>>>> jsr250-api-1.0.jar
>>>>>>> junit-4.2.jar
>>>>>>> log4j-1.2.12.jar
>>>>>>> logkit-1.0.1.jar
>>>>>>> mail-1.4.jar
>>>>>>> neethi-2.0.2.jar
>>>>>>> opensaml-1.1.jar
>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.bundlerepository-1.1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.framework-1.1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.main-1.1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.shell-1.1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> org.apache.felix.shell.tui-1.1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>> org.osgi.core-1.0.0.jar
>>>>>>> rampart-core-1.3.jar
>>>>>>> rampart-policy-1.3.jar
>>>>>>> rampart-trust-1.3.jar
>>>>>>> saaj-api-1.3.jar
>>>>>>> servlet-api-2.4.jar
>>>>>>> stax-api-1.0-2.jar
>>>>>>> stax-api-1.0.1.jar
>>>>>>> woden-1.0-incubating-M7b.jar
>>>>>>> wsdl4j-1.6.2.jar
>>>>>>> wss4j-1.5.3.jar
>>>>>>> wstx-asl-3.2.1.jar
>>>>>>> xalan-2.7.0.jar
>>>>>>> xercesImpl-2.8.1.jar
>>>>>>> xml-apis-1.3.03.jar
>>>>>>> XmlSchema-1.3.2.jar
>>>>>>> xmlsec-1.4.0.jar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know what you think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Graham.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2008/5/15 Mike Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Graham Charters wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've been working on a small sample to act as an OSGi "sniff test"
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> Tuscany running in OSGi.  It's basically a cut-down version of what
>>>>>>>>> Rajini has done in itest/osgi-tuscany and only runs the most basic
>>>>>>>>> Calculator sample.  I still have some work to do to exclude all the
>>>>>>>>> things which aren't required and also perhaps move it to use the
>>>>>>>>> latest "1 manifest per 3rd party jar" approach.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Currently the sample takes ~3 mins to build and run and uses 56MB.
>>>>>>>>> The main space usage is 17.5MB for the third-party dependencies and
>>>>>>>>> 35MB for the Felix bundle cache (61 bundles in total).  The full
>>>>>>>>> Tuscany (itest/osgi-tuscany) using the same third-party library
>>>>>>>>> approach is 151 bundles and 133MB total.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to understand whether people feel this would be useful and
>>>>>>>>> whether it is approaching the kind of overhead that would be
>>>>>>>>> acceptable for it to be included in the main build?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards, Graham.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 from me...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The time and space bother me a lot less than whether it would cause
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> extra failures.  What plagues me are build & test failures.  They can
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hours to sort out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yours,  Mike.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Graham
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any idea what the breakdown of that 2.5 mins is?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For me on my T60 this morning.
>>>>>
>>>>> Full build
>>>>>
>>>>> [INFO]
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> [INFO] BUILD SUCCESSFUL
>>>>> [INFO]
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> [INFO] Total time: 40 minutes 9 seconds
>>>>> [INFO] Finished at: Fri May 16 12:17:45 BST 2008
>>>>> [INFO] Final Memory: 98M/170M
>>>>> [INFO]
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> osgi-tuscany
>>>>>
>>>>> [INFO] BUILD SUCCESSFUL
>>>>> [INFO]
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> [INFO] Total time: 8 minutes 4 seconds
>>>>> [INFO] Finished at: Fri May 16 13:15:25 BST 2008
>>>>> [INFO] Final Memory: 33M/99M
>>>>> [INFO]
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Simon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thank you...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rajini
>>
>

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