[TV orNotTV] Re: Fun with Katie Couric interviews
But the transgender status of these ladies is not news, and they are not on the show to be interviewed by a journalist. As guests on a talk show they do deserve the kind of consideration the author of the piece suggests. OK, I'll bite. Why are they on the show? To discuss Robert Gates' memoir? That night's BCS Championship game? A lot depends on what went on in the pre-interviews. If there were agreements about what would and wouldn't be asked, then it's incumbent on the host to respect that. But if the guests are on specifically as transgender models, and there aren't any out-of-bounds lines, then they shouldn't be shocked if the host asks what seems to be a pretty obvious question. The guests can decline to answer, but don't blame the host for asking. (When I said she could ask anything, I didn't mean ANYTHING.) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Rainn Wilson tries return in drama
As a major-crime detective trying to repair his image in a Fox pilot, Backstrom, from *Bones'* Hart Hanson. http://www.thewrap.com/hart-hanson-rainn-wilson-backstrom-fox-crime-drama B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Fun with Katie Couric interviews
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:00 AM, JW redbu...@gmail.com wrote: But the transgender status of these ladies is not news, and they are not on the show to be interviewed by a journalist. As guests on a talk show they do deserve the kind of consideration the author of the piece suggests. OK, I'll bite. Why are they on the show? To discuss Robert Gates' memoir? That night's BCS Championship game? A lot depends on what went on in the pre-interviews. If there were agreements about what would and wouldn't be asked, then it's incumbent on the host to respect that. But if the guests are on specifically as transgender models, and there aren't any out-of-bounds lines, then they shouldn't be shocked if the host asks what seems to be a pretty obvious question. The guests can decline to answer, but don't blame the host for asking. (When I said she could ask anything, I didn't mean ANYTHING.) I am sure they were on the show to talk about the experience of transgender people in society at large and in the entertainment field in particular. I don't think they objected to talking about that either. What they objected to was the obsessive focus on their genitalia. If Katie had a couple of relatively high-profile rape survivors on her show, and insisted on asking them if they experienced an orgasm during their rape, I think that would be widely seen as inappropriate, even if the guests had agreed to come on the show to talk about their rape experience. Or maybe it would be like having African-American celebrities on her show and focusing excessively on questions about how large their dicks were. The problem is not so much that Katie asked about it, but that she continued to focus in on it even after it had been dealt with, and communicated that this was not what the guests themselves thought was the core of their experience. So, even though ostensibly they are on the show to talk about their transgender experience (a big part of which for them is their incredibly huge probability of being violently assaulted simply because of their transgender identity), it turned out they were really there to talk about what Katie thought their transgender experience should be about (or, maybe, what Katie thought her mainstream audience thought their transgender experience should be about). -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] What Cable Channel Gets $260M In CT Tax Breaks?
The one that generates $6B in subscriber fees. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/27/sports/for-espn-millions-to-remain-in-connecticut.html?ref=media_r=0pagewanted=all -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Two Olympic Coverage Items
NBC will not stream the opening ceremony live (even though the event will start at 11 AM ET), holding it for prime time: http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/nbc-wont-live-stream-winter-olympics-opening-ceremonies-1201034728/ Nancy Kerrigan will be an analyst for figure skating and involved what's being called a documentary on the events of 20 years with Mary Carillo, her first comments since the event: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/nbc-taps-nancy-kerrigan-as-668991 Sidebar: I did not watch the Women's Long Program on CBS that night. Instead, we listened live on CBS Radio with Mark Champion on the call. It was infinitely better listening to him try to describe what the hell Tonya Harding was doing (if you forgot, she was sobbing because she had a skate problem and was pleading with the judges for time to repair it, which was denied) Bonus sidebar: While the shell of Cobo Arena (where the attack occurred) remains, they've converted it into an extension of the convention center it's attached to. Sadly, they chose not to put a commemorative plaque at the spot. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Two Olympic Coverage Items
Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: Bonus sidebar: While the shell of Cobo Arena (where the attack occurred) remains, they've converted it into an extension of the convention center it's attached to. Sadly, they chose not to put a commemorative plaque at the spot. ...which sounds like a perfect opportunity for a Kickstarter campaign. Heck, I bet you could even get Tonya Harding to participate for the price of a hot meal and a chance to be on TV. -- Ed Dravecky III WhoFest 2 - April 2015 - http://www.whofestdfw.org/ -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Two Olympic Coverage Items
For those too young to recall the saga, Comedy Central's short film Spunk starring Tina Yothers is a good primer. http://youtu.be/GQXazQ_pIC0 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Ed Dravecky drave...@gmail.com wrote: Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: Bonus sidebar: While the shell of Cobo Arena (where the attack occurred) remains, they've converted it into an extension of the convention center it's attached to. Sadly, they chose not to put a commemorative plaque at the spot. ...which sounds like a perfect opportunity for a Kickstarter campaign. Heck, I bet you could even get Tonya Harding to participate for the price of a hot meal and a chance to be on TV. -- Ed Dravecky III WhoFest 2 - April 2015 - http://www.whofestdfw.org/ -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Re: Two Olympic Coverage Items
Joe Hass, in part: NBC will not stream the opening ceremony live (even though the event will start at 11 AM ET), holding it for prime time: http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/nbc-wont-live-stream-winter-olympics-opening-ceremonies-1201034728/ Not only won't I have access to NBCSN*, I doubt much either NY or PHL OTAs will letterbox all their coverage. B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Re: Two Olympic Coverage Items
*Unless I suddenly come across current-variety sets (e.g. with QAM-tuners) B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Vomit inducing LA Times story on Jimmy Fallon
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-jimmy-fallon-johnny-carson-would-be-proud-of-my-tonight-plans-20140109,0,4034980.story#axzz2py1O4Mx3 The headline alone will make you want to recall whatever you just ate. But what really ticked me off is that the LOS ANGELES Times didn't talk at all about how the loss of The Tonight Show affects California. The apx. 200 full time crew, plus cars and drivers, plus catering, plus hotels, plus security, plus tourism, and on and on. Burbank is losing an anchor for restaurants and bars. Instead of addressing any of that, they do a puff piece. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Vomit inducing LA Times story on Jimmy Fallon
It reminded me that JF will be the first host since Carson to be *starring* on Tonight. After 22 years that just feels wrong. It certainly killed most of the goodwill Sunday's Late Night special generated in me. The piece does imply an answer to one of the questions from an earlier thread - some bits will be transferred from Late Night. It confirms that the Roots will be part of the show. David From: Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com Subject: [TV orNotTV] Vomit inducing LA Times story on Jimmy Fallon http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-jimmy-fallon-johnny-carson-would-be-proud-of-my-tonight-plans-20140109,0,4034980.story#axzz2py1O4Mx3 The headline alone will make you want to recall whatever you just ate. But what really ticked me off is that the LOS ANGELES Times didn't talk at all about how the loss of The Tonight Show affects California. The apx. 200 full time crew, plus cars and drivers, plus catering, plus hotels, plus security, plus tourism, and on and on. Burbank is losing an anchor for restaurants and bars. Instead of addressing any of that, they do a puff piece. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.