Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl
On Feb 2, 2014, at 10:41 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: Except - even though Lauer was not an evening news anchor, he is the anchor of a news show (I assume Today still is run by the News Division at NBC? As I recall Good Morning America is not, but I think Today is)... GMA was transferred from the entertainment division to ABC News in the late '90s. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl
Sky Sports in the UK carried Fox's pre-game show for three hours this year, and it was the first time I'd ever seen it or any equivalent shows from previous years. I just found the whole Obama interview toe-curling. While I wouldn't expect any interview with a nation's leader full of soft pitches, this was aggressive from the outset and just felt horribly out of place. Set amidst lots of feel-good stories and celebrity fodder of the rest of the show, it was just completely out of place. I actually changed channel as I couldn't watch it. Perhaps it's the liberal in me. I totally get that a network wants to maximise the marketing of its assets with the unique opportunity that the Super Bowl offers, from giving a boost to a new series in the post-game slot, to pumping the hype for a sister corporation's movie. But there can't really be many Americans who didn't know that Fox News isn't Obama's biggest fan. It just leaves a bitter taste in half the nation's mouths I'd have thought. I'm not really sure why there should be a serious news interview crammed into the beginning of a sports event anyway. Even if that event transcends sports to an extent and becomes a cultural touchstone. Adam On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv wrote: On Feb 2, 2014, at 10:41 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: Except - even though Lauer was not an evening news anchor, he is the anchor of a news show (I assume Today still is run by the News Division at NBC? As I recall Good Morning America is not, but I think Today is)... GMA was transferred from the entertainment division to ABC News in the late '90s. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv http://www.ellwanger.tv -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl
I would not have mined a hard hitting serious interview - Evan one with a rightward spin. But this was just a rehash of Debunked Fox News talking points since the election. On Monday, February 3, 2014, Adam Bowie a...@adambowie.co.uk wrote: Sky Sports in the UK carried Fox's pre-game show for three hours this year, and it was the first time I'd ever seen it or any equivalent shows from previous years. I just found the whole Obama interview toe-curling. While I wouldn't expect any interview with a nation's leader full of soft pitches, this was aggressive from the outset and just felt horribly out of place. Set amidst lots of feel-good stories and celebrity fodder of the rest of the show, it was just completely out of place. I actually changed channel as I couldn't watch it. Perhaps it's the liberal in me. I totally get that a network wants to maximise the marketing of its assets with the unique opportunity that the Super Bowl offers, from giving a boost to a new series in the post-game slot, to pumping the hype for a sister corporation's movie. But there can't really be many Americans who didn't know that Fox News isn't Obama's biggest fan. It just leaves a bitter taste in half the nation's mouths I'd have thought. I'm not really sure why there should be a serious news interview crammed into the beginning of a sports event anyway. Even if that event transcends sports to an extent and becomes a cultural touchstone. Adam On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tvjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','train...@ellwanger.tv'); wrote: On Feb 2, 2014, at 10:41 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pga...@gmail.com'); wrote: Except - even though Lauer was not an evening news anchor, he is the anchor of a news show (I assume Today still is run by the News Division at NBC? As I recall Good Morning America is not, but I think Today is)... GMA was transferred from the entertainment division to ABC News in the late '90s. -- Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tvjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','train...@ellwanger.tv'); http://www.ellwanger.tv -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tvornottv@googlegroups.com'); To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tvornottv%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tvornottv@googlegroups.com'); To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tvornottv%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] RIP Local TV News
I came across this article over at TVSpy, and it struck a nerve with me, not as an amateur journalist on a third-rate website, but as an observer of things I can't help observing. Last week, I was on a cruise for my birthday aboard the Carnival Fantasy, which gets its local TV feeds from Miami (sidebar: met a nice cruise director by the name of Lindsey. In the off-chance anyone runs into her, tell her Dino says hi). Back to Miami. I remember seeing an episode of CSI Miami's early seasons (a name-changed reporter that covered a murder that he himself perpetrated)... and again in a later season (pretty blonde reporter claiming she was a serious journalist, followed by Emily Calleigh Procter giving her what-for about working in a newspaper instead). Turns out truth nowadays is even worse than fiction judging from the week of news out of Miami I had to watch. But perhaps I ranted too much. Read on and judge for yourself. http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/2014/01/31/Local-TV-news-RIP/stories/201401310003 ~D -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] RIP Local TV News
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:51 PM, chia...@nc.rr.com wrote: I came across this article over at TVSpy, and it struck a nerve with me, not as an amateur journalist on a third-rate website, but as an observer of things I can't help observing. Last week, I was on a cruise for my birthday aboard the Carnival Fantasy, which gets its local TV feeds from Miami (sidebar: met a nice cruise director by the name of Lindsey. In the off-chance anyone runs into her, tell her Dino says hi). Back to Miami. I remember seeing an episode of CSI Miami's early seasons (a name-changed reporter that covered a murder that he himself perpetrated)... and again in a later season (pretty blonde reporter claiming she was a serious journalist, followed by Emily Calleigh Procter giving her what-for about working in a newspaper instead). Turns out truth nowadays is even worse than fiction judging from the week of news out of Miami I had to watch. But perhaps I ranted too much. Read on and judge for yourself. http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/2014/01/31/Local-TV-news-RIP/stories/201401310003 Living in Pittsburgh, I caught up with this op-ed in the print version last week. At this point, I think the writer is beating a dead horse. Rather than just bemoaning the product and saying that they should better I wonder if it is possible for them to do a better job any more. Let's assume that people who need hard news for their jobs (financial sector, policy makers) or just follow hard news will get information through the day on the internet. People who just want to be in the know will have cable news on in the background or will sit and watch for a half hour or an hour. And studies have shown that people who watch local news are most interested in weather and sports. The reason they put them in the second half of the newscast is to encourage people to sit through as many commercials as possible. Local TV news has been going through the same budget cutting as newspapers. And as the median age of the local TV news viewer goes up ad revenue goes down. So given the depleted budgets and resources what would a better newscast look like and who would watch it? -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [TV orNotTV] Tonight transition begins, and so do the layoffs
Yeah, but you get it – that if a show starts filming at 7, it’s not going to be over in time to catch a bus. And, while I don’t mind long walks in the daylight, I really don’t want to do it after dark on deserted sidewalks. I’ve done it, but it’s spooky. But it’s good to read that – finally -- LA is making progress toward using the Universal City station (which has plenty of room) as transit a hub. I know when I was there the last time, I wondered why more buses weren’t routed there. The buses in DC have always been used well to transport riders to subway stations. From what you say, it seems that LA has finally caught on to the way it’s done. I’ve used the 222 many times after shows at Warner Brothers, since I usually stay in Hollywood. However, when it’s going to arrive is always a crapshoot. It stuck to the schedule better when it was routed between Burbank Airport and Inglewood. There’s also service at least ‘til midnight on Ventura, which takes care of the CBS Studio. It’s only Disney that’s a problem. From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of K.M. Richards Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 10:44 PM To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Tonight transition begins, and so do the layoffs Line 155 -- which a few years ago replaced the Line 96 on Riverside Dr. you remember -- runs until 9:00pm in the vicinity of the Media District going back to Universal City Station. After that, the only service in the area is Line 222 on Hollywood Way (a bit over a mile walk from Disney) which has service operating to Hollywood/Vine Red Line Station until around 12:45am. On Sunday, February 2, 2014 12:15:35 PM UTC-8, MelissaP wrote: One important question: When does the bus stop running? Is it after 10 pm, or preferably even later? Because the filming of shows usually goes past 10 o’clock. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Because damned if they'll appreciate it the classic way
Given budget and time, I'd have aged Keenan up a little to play Ben Vereen, but since his accident Ben's been a little doughy, so physically it wasn't an awful mismatch. Jay Pharaoh would have been a good match for 1970's Jesus Christ Superstar/Pippin Vereen. On Sunday, February 2, 2014 11:31:56 AM UTC-5, Chris Neuman wrote: For a look at what might be the future, check out last night's SNL cold open. Kenan Thompson as Ben Vereen playing Richard Sherman? On Friday, January 31, 2014, Bob Jersey bob.in...@juno.com javascript: wrote: Fox Sports is betting $1 million that musicals will play a crucial role in the future of sports programming. The sports media giant has awarded AVByte, a YouTube channel dedicated to musicals, a six-month deal to develop quality sports programming. http://www.thewrap.com/fox-sports-avbyte-million-sports-programming *Oy vey*. B -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl
Today is still under the news division, yes. And those of us who lived in the New York market in the early-mid 90's remember Matt Lauer as WNBC's journeyman anchor, starting with the 6-7am Today in NY shift, moving over to read the news on the Today set, then running back up to the 6th floor for Live at Five. On Monday, February 3, 2014 1:41:24 AM UTC-5, PGage wrote: On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:13 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.comjavascript: wrote: The President sat down with Scott Pelley last year, Katie Couric in 2010, and with Matt Lauer in 2009 and 2012. So CBS went with their evening news anchors, FOX and NBC opted not to. Perhaps FOX isn't the only network not particularly interested in boosting their news division with the Presidential interview? Don't we get the pleasure - again - of avoiding part 2 of this genital measuring contest tomorrow night? Except - even though Lauer was not an evening news anchor, he is the anchor of a news show (I assume Today still is run by the News Division at NBC? As I recall Good Morning America is not, but I think Today is). The argument as I understand it is that the opinion shows at FN are not really to be considered part of the news operation. Having O’Reilly do the interview is more like if NBC had asked Conan to do it. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] ... his next leap, will be the leap to New Orleans
Scott Bakula is cast in the pilot for NCIS: New Orleans http://www.vulture.com/2014/02/scott-bakula-will-star-in-ncis-spinoff.html -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TV orNotTV] Re: ... his next leap, will be the leap to New Orleans
I'm OK with this. I like the Bakula, and given good scripts and the right ensemble, he can make this work. It'll be interesting to see where they place his character on the NCIS spectrum of damaged federal agents... (I also feel like Bakula got an unfair share of the blame for the failure of Enterprise - it wasn't him, it was the writing.) On Monday, February 3, 2014 8:49:00 PM UTC-5, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote: Scott Bakula is cast in the pilot for NCIS: New Orleans http://www.vulture.com/2014/02/scott-bakula-will-star-in-ncis-spinoff.html -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: ... his next leap, will be the leap to New Orleans
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 6:48 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote: I'm OK with this. I like the Bakula, and given good scripts and the right ensemble, he can make this work. It'll be interesting to see where they place his character on the NCIS spectrum of damaged federal agents... (I also feel like Bakula got an unfair share of the blame for the failure of Enterprise - it wasn't him, it was the writing.) I agree on all fronts. Bakula is a watchable actor used to ensemble work. And to state that Enterprise had flawed writing is an understatement, like saying the Titanic hit an ice cube. I am concerned about too much of the NCIS brand, however. I still watch Harmon and his gang weekly, but I only rarely check in to see what the boy wonder is doing in LA. It isn't that I dislike the LA series -- I just don;t want to oversaturate my own viewing habits with it. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: ... his next leap, will be the leap to New Orleans
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 6:48 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote: I'm OK with this. I like the Bakula, and given good scripts and the right ensemble, he can make this work. It'll be interesting to see where they place his character on the NCIS spectrum of damaged federal agents... (I also feel like Bakula got an unfair share of the blame for the failure of Enterprise - it wasn't him, it was the writing.) Love the Bakula. Looks like they are going with NOLA instead of that peripatetic NCIS unit they did a backdoor pilot of last season? -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: ... his next leap, will be the leap to New Orleans
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: I am concerned about too much of the NCIS brand, however. I still watch Harmon and his gang weekly, but I only rarely check in to see what the boy wonder is doing in LA. It isn't that I dislike the LA series -- I just don;t want to oversaturate my own viewing habits with it. Good point. But I notice that while I have the entire current season of CSI on my DVR unwatched so far, I am up to date on both NCISs. CSI went for a fairly subtle sub-branding of each flavor, while the two versions of NCIS are very different I think, particularly in terms of the body count. It will be interesting to see if they are able to give NOLA a unique stamp. -- -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TVorNotTV group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
