Re: [TV orNotTV] Help For DVR Decisions on New Shows

2014-09-24 Thread Michael
After watching the pilot, I'd say that the script and overall concept of 
Gotham were incredibly heavy-handed as far as shoehorning in clumsily 
ret-conned early origins of Batman's Rogue's Gallery - although the art 
direction was good, Donal Logue was great as the corrupt cop Harvey 
Bullock, and the kids playing Selina Catgirl Kyle and young Master Bruce 
were quite appealing too. Ultimately, it was bullshit to this longtime 
comic book fan, while the pilot to The Flash, although moderned-up, 
recalibarted and connected to The CW's post-Smallville Green Arrow series 
Arrow, was far more satisfying and true to the source material.

On Monday, September 22, 2014 7:44:59 PM UTC-7, PGage wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Jason Carpio jca...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 At the very least, it'll help with DVR conflicts and hdd space. 

 However with Gotham, give it 4 episodes. Before keeping it in the yes 
 column.


 I see. Well, the Comcast On Demand seems to be about as helpful as Hulu 
 for that kind of thing - as far as I can tell Hulu only goes back 5 
 episodes or so for current shows that it covers. I prefer though to have 
 episodes of shows I am really following on my DVR; in most cases I let them 
 build up and binge watch series one at a time, rather than just keeping up 
 with a show week by week (a few exceptions for something like Mad Men or 
 Breaking Bad). If I am not recording them, I often get more than 5 episodes 
 behind and then can never catch up - and if I don't see it on my DVR I 
 sometimes just forget to even watch them. 


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[TV orNotTV] Re: Kenan Thompson departure from SNL disputed

2014-09-24 Thread Michael
I concur that the female cast members are, in general, good - especially 
Kate McKinnon. I was skeptical at first, but McKinnon won me over quickly 
(with one line as the old Italian mama in the Jon Hamm - Lawrence Welk 
skit). She's fearless and funny and freaky. That said, I do agree that the 
writers need to step up their game.

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:58:58 AM UTC-7, M-D November wrote:

 I actually think the ensemble of female performers is one of the stronger 
 groups of any gender they've had on SNL in a long while - they just need to 
 find someone in the writers' room who can write for the female voice. 
  (Hint: more (Do it) On My Twin Bed, less Girlfriends Talk Show)

 As far as Keenan, he never fails to make me laugh at least once an episode 
 with nothing more than a take to the camera.  I was surprised to learn that 
 not only is he the most senior member of the current SNL ensemble, he's 
 also the longest-tenured cast member of color in the show's 40 year 
 history.  (I thought for sure Tim Meadows was there longer...)  If he 
 decides to leave, that's his call, but frankly I hope he stays for a while 
 longer - at least long enough for Lorne to right the ship.

 On Monday, September 22, 2014 11:40:05 PM UTC-4, Dave Sikula wrote:

 Since Kenan is currently the only watchable element on SNL, I shudder to 
 think of what'll become without him.

 --Dave Sikula

 On Monday, September 22, 2014 6:00:29 PM UTC-7, Bob Jersey wrote:


 TMZ 
 http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/22/kenan-thompson-leaving-saturday-night-live/ 
 (link): He wanted to split last year, Lorne talked him out of it, but now 
 that the cast turnover has calmed down, no one is stopping him.

 USA Today 
 http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2014/09/22/kenan-thompson-is-not-leaving-saturday-night-live/
  
 (link): NBC told them any cast decisions were made after the previous 
 season ended, and Thompson was not one of them.

 He'll be on the Today Show Thursday to promote the season opener.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Scorpion

2014-09-24 Thread Jim Ellwanger
On Sep 24, 2014, at 5:06 AM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
tvornottv@googlegroups.com wrote:

 FWIW, the reviewer at io9.com claimed a hacker scene in the pilot was the 
 worst ever.

Everyone who knows anything about computers should have been warned about this 
kind of thing by the fact that the stylized version of the show's title is a 
closing HTML tag without a corresponding opening equivalent.

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Kenan Thompson departure from SNL disputed

2014-09-24 Thread 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV
My opinion of McKinnon is that she's the perfect successor to Wiig: she 
plays everything exactly the same, yelling and forcing punchlines down the 
viewer;s throat with the subtlety and comedic chops of a rhinoceros.

--Dave Sikula 

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:52:14 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 I concur that the female cast members are, in general, good - especially 
 Kate McKinnon. I was skeptical at first, but McKinnon won me over quickly 
 (with one line as the old Italian mama in the Jon Hamm - Lawrence Welk 
 skit). She's fearless and funny and freaky. That said, I do agree that the 
 writers need to step up their game.

 On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:58:58 AM UTC-7, M-D November wrote:

 I actually think the ensemble of female performers is one of the stronger 
 groups of any gender they've had on SNL in a long while - they just need to 
 find someone in the writers' room who can write for the female voice. 
  (Hint: more (Do it) On My Twin Bed, less Girlfriends Talk Show)

 As far as Keenan, he never fails to make me laugh at least once an 
 episode with nothing more than a take to the camera.  I was surprised to 
 learn that not only is he the most senior member of the current SNL 
 ensemble, he's also the longest-tenured cast member of color in the show's 
 40 year history.  (I thought for sure Tim Meadows was there longer...)  If 
 he decides to leave, that's his call, but frankly I hope he stays for a 
 while longer - at least long enough for Lorne to right the ship.

 On Monday, September 22, 2014 11:40:05 PM UTC-4, Dave Sikula wrote:

 Since Kenan is currently the only watchable element on SNL, I shudder to 
 think of what'll become without him.

 --Dave Sikula

 On Monday, September 22, 2014 6:00:29 PM UTC-7, Bob Jersey wrote:


 TMZ 
 http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/22/kenan-thompson-leaving-saturday-night-live/
  
 (link): He wanted to split last year, Lorne talked him out of it, but now 
 that the cast turnover has calmed down, no one is stopping him.

 USA Today 
 http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2014/09/22/kenan-thompson-is-not-leaving-saturday-night-live/
  
 (link): NBC told them any cast decisions were made after the previous 
 season ended, and Thompson was not one of them.

 He'll be on the Today Show Thursday to promote the season opener.

 B



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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Scorpion

2014-09-24 Thread Doug Eastick
Holy crap.   I just read the io9 review,  and watched the video. Dats sum 
horrible teevee. 

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

On September 24, 2014 2:58:36 AM EDT, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv 
wrote:
On Sep 24, 2014, at 5:06 AM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV
tvornottv@googlegroups.com wrote:

 FWIW, the reviewer at io9.com claimed a hacker scene in the pilot was
the worst ever.

Everyone who knows anything about computers should have been warned
about this kind of thing by the fact that the stylized version of the
show's title is a closing HTML tag without a corresponding opening
equivalent.

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Kenan Thompson departure from SNL disputed

2014-09-24 Thread Michael
I'm not certain of much in this crazy ol' world, but I am sure that Kevin 
and Dave can't wait for the inevitable Alec Baldwin-Kristen Wiig film to 
come out.

On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:21:29 AM UTC-7, Dave Sikula wrote:

 My opinion of McKinnon is that she's the perfect successor to Wiig: she 
 plays everything exactly the same, yelling and forcing punchlines down the 
 viewer;s throat with the subtlety and comedic chops of a rhinoceros.

 --Dave Sikula 

 On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:52:14 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 I concur that the female cast members are, in general, good - especially 
 Kate McKinnon. I was skeptical at first, but McKinnon won me over quickly 
 (with one line as the old Italian mama in the Jon Hamm - Lawrence Welk 
 skit). She's fearless and funny and freaky. That said, I do agree that the 
 writers need to step up their game.

 On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:58:58 AM UTC-7, M-D November wrote:

 I actually think the ensemble of female performers is one of the 
 stronger groups of any gender they've had on SNL in a long while - they 
 just need to find someone in the writers' room who can write for the female 
 voice.  (Hint: more (Do it) On My Twin Bed, less Girlfriends Talk Show)

 As far as Keenan, he never fails to make me laugh at least once an 
 episode with nothing more than a take to the camera.  I was surprised to 
 learn that not only is he the most senior member of the current SNL 
 ensemble, he's also the longest-tenured cast member of color in the show's 
 40 year history.  (I thought for sure Tim Meadows was there longer...)  If 
 he decides to leave, that's his call, but frankly I hope he stays for a 
 while longer - at least long enough for Lorne to right the ship.

 On Monday, September 22, 2014 11:40:05 PM UTC-4, Dave Sikula wrote:

 Since Kenan is currently the only watchable element on SNL, I shudder 
 to think of what'll become without him.

 --Dave Sikula

 On Monday, September 22, 2014 6:00:29 PM UTC-7, Bob Jersey wrote:


 TMZ 
 http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/22/kenan-thompson-leaving-saturday-night-live/
  
 (link): He wanted to split last year, Lorne talked him out of it, but now 
 that the cast turnover has calmed down, no one is stopping him.

 USA Today 
 http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2014/09/22/kenan-thompson-is-not-leaving-saturday-night-live/
  
 (link): NBC told them any cast decisions were made after the previous 
 season ended, and Thompson was not one of them.

 He'll be on the Today Show Thursday to promote the season opener.

 B



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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Madam Secretary

2014-09-24 Thread Doug Eastick
I watched the pilot too.  For a while I thought that the Chief of Staff was
the same guy as Frank Underwood's right hand man, but I don't think so.
Although one of Tea's staff was also on House of Cards.


I'm afraid to start watching another whitehouse show.  My head will get all
confused with Scandal and House of Cards (which I still haven't finished
2nd season).   I'll be wondering if Tea screwed Fitz, does Olivia know, and
is Frank Underwood going to kill Tea in an underground garage or a subway
station.



On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not quite the West Wing, but a strong cast of knowns and unknowns. I could
 live without her smart-assed son.

 https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/pilot/id909114354?i=919838680
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RE: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Madam Secretary

2014-09-24 Thread doug
Definitely different guys. Téa's guy is Zeljko Ivanek, who's been a "Hey, it's that guy!" for years, playing various government or legal personnel with varying degrees of questionable ethics.Frank's guy is Michael Kelly, who plays many of the similar type of characters, and also seems to be able to pull off military and blue-collar police characters as well. Doug FieldsTampa, FL


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Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Madam Secretary
From: Doug Eastick east...@mcd.on.ca
Date: Wed, September 24, 2014 9:02 am
To: "tvornottv@googlegroups.com" tvornottv@googlegroups.com

I watched the pilot too. For a while I thought that the Chief of Staff was the same guy as Frank Underwood's right hand man, but I don't think so. Although one of Tea's staff was also on House of Cards. 





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[TV orNotTV] Networks desperate to bring Eva Longoria back

2014-09-24 Thread Bob Jersey
NBC appears to have the upper hand with *Telenovela*, a behind-the-scenes 
sitcom from execs of *Cougar Town*, but ABC's effort with *Trophy Wife*'s 
team makes a strong case as well... Nellie 
http://deadline.com/2014/09/eva-longoria-returning-tv-series-telenovela-nbc-abc-839700/
 
(link)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Kenan Thompson departure from SNL disputed

2014-09-24 Thread Chris Neuman
With Shannen Doherty in a small part as befits her talent.

On Wednesday, September 24, 2014, Michael mikethekn...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not certain of much in this crazy ol' world, but I am sure that Kevin
 and Dave can't wait for the inevitable Alec Baldwin-Kristen Wiig film to
 come out.

 On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:21:29 AM UTC-7, Dave Sikula wrote:

 My opinion of McKinnon is that she's the perfect successor to Wiig: she
 plays everything exactly the same, yelling and forcing punchlines down the
 viewer;s throat with the subtlety and comedic chops of a rhinoceros.

 --Dave Sikula

 On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:52:14 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 I concur that the female cast members are, in general, good - especially
 Kate McKinnon. I was skeptical at first, but McKinnon won me over quickly
 (with one line as the old Italian mama in the Jon Hamm - Lawrence Welk
 skit). She's fearless and funny and freaky. That said, I do agree that the
 writers need to step up their game.

 On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:58:58 AM UTC-7, M-D November wrote:

 I actually think the ensemble of female performers is one of the
 stronger groups of any gender they've had on SNL in a long while - they
 just need to find someone in the writers' room who can write for the female
 voice.  (Hint: more (Do it) On My Twin Bed, less Girlfriends Talk Show)

 As far as Keenan, he never fails to make me laugh at least once an
 episode with nothing more than a take to the camera.  I was surprised to
 learn that not only is he the most senior member of the current SNL
 ensemble, he's also the longest-tenured cast member of color in the show's
 40 year history.  (I thought for sure Tim Meadows was there longer...)  If
 he decides to leave, that's his call, but frankly I hope he stays for a
 while longer - at least long enough for Lorne to right the ship.

 On Monday, September 22, 2014 11:40:05 PM UTC-4, Dave Sikula wrote:

 Since Kenan is currently the only watchable element on SNL, I shudder
 to think of what'll become without him.

 --Dave Sikula

 On Monday, September 22, 2014 6:00:29 PM UTC-7, Bob Jersey wrote:


 TMZ
 http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/22/kenan-thompson-leaving-saturday-night-live/
 (link): He wanted to split last year, Lorne talked him out of it, but now
 that the cast turnover has calmed down, no one is stopping him.

 USA Today
 http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2014/09/22/kenan-thompson-is-not-leaving-saturday-night-live/
 (link): NBC told them any cast decisions were made after the previous
 season ended, and Thompson was not one of them.

 He'll be on the Today Show Thursday to promote the season opener.

 B

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Madam Secretary

2014-09-24 Thread Chris Neuman
On Wednesday, September 24, 2014, Doug Eastick east...@mcd.on.ca wrote:

 I watched the pilot too.  For a while I thought that the Chief of Staff
 was the same guy as Frank Underwood's right hand man, but I don't think
 so.   Although one of Tea's staff was also on House of Cards.


I think you're confusing noted Slovenian actor Zeljko Ivanek with noted
Philadelphia native Michael Kelly. It's an easy mistake. Add noted Canadian
actor Henry Czerny to the screen and its a confusing edition of Hey it's
that guy!

Chris

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Madam Secretary

2014-09-24 Thread Doug Eastick
unrelated to Madam Secretary.but related to Whitehouse shows..

On the drive to work this morning while listening to The Morning Mashup
(the morning show) they said that the Scandal President actor will be a
guest tomorrow.   Which likely means he is in the studio today, but they
record snippits of him today for tomorrow  on SiriusXM Hits1!

 now, I'll have to remember, is that the president that has sex
with Olivia?  Or the one that's buddies with the Energy mogul guy from
Simon and Simon?  Or the one that just hired Tea because of her foreign
experience?




On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Chris Neuman ch...@neuman.ca wrote:



 On Wednesday, September 24, 2014, Doug Eastick east...@mcd.on.ca wrote:

 I watched the pilot too.  For a while I thought that the Chief of Staff
 was the same guy as Frank Underwood's right hand man, but I don't think
 so.   Although one of Tea's staff was also on House of Cards.


 I think you're confusing noted Slovenian actor Zeljko Ivanek with noted
 Philadelphia native Michael Kelly. It's an easy mistake. Add noted Canadian
 actor Henry Czerny to the screen and its a confusing edition of Hey it's
 that guy!

 Chris

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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Sports Jeopardy!

2014-09-24 Thread chialex
It's sports. It's Jeopardy!. It's the best of both worlds with Dan Patrick in 
his Welcome to the Big Show glory. 

New eps stream every Wednesday.

http://www.crackle.com/c/sports-jeopardy

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Sports Jeopardy!

2014-09-24 Thread 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV
Kelly from the Clue Crew serves as announcer.

There was one category that I think should have included quotes in the title, 
but the gameplay isn't radically different.  I found it interesting that they 
are spending a lot more time with the contestants and that there are one-third 
fewer questions than on the mothership.  The program run time seems as long as 
Jeopardy!


And while I've made it to the audition stage for the regular show, I doubt I'd 
pass the test for Sports Jeopardy! (same goes for what I remember about Rock 
and Roll Jeopardy!).  Howie Schwab is involved, but the questions aren't quite 
as tough as when ESPN had people try to stump him.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Celebrity Name Game

2014-09-24 Thread Karen Owen

I watched the first 2 shows that were on Monday evening.
It's also on here at 10:30 am.  I would
maybe watch again if I happened to see it on, but I don't think
it's worth the DVR time and space to try to record every day.
I'm guessing the intention of  the show is to have the contestants
describe the person or place names that come up in the game,
but the contestants seemed to me to not know how to describe
a lot of the names and ended up passing or doing charades
style clues.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Scorpion

2014-09-24 Thread Mark Jeffries
Ah, Kat McPhee.  I hope she shows more emotion as a waitress than she did
playing what should've been the no-brainer of a musical theater actress on
Smash.

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 It wants to be Numb3rs. It isn't Numb3rs. But Paige the waitress is
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 https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/pilot/id909052078?i=919843107

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Scorpion

2014-09-24 Thread Jon Delfin
I was surprised (based on lowered expectations from reviews) to find her
rather charming, and the show not immediately dismissible. But then, I'm
smack-dab in the CBS demo.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.com
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 Ah, Kat McPhee.  I hope she shows more emotion as a waitress than she did
 playing what should've been the no-brainer of a musical theater actress on
 Smash.

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 It wants to be Numb3rs. It isn't Numb3rs. But Paige the waitress is
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 https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/pilot/id909052078?i=919843107

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[TV orNotTV] Tomorrow Night: The Word Association Sketch on 'SNL Vintage'

2014-09-24 Thread Mark Jeffries
The first prime time repeat from the last 40 years of SNL tomorrow night 
at 10 p.m. will be the justly famous Richard Pryor episode from Season 1, 
with that famous word association sketch with him and Chevy Chase--they're 
going to jump around, next week it's Christopher Walken and Christina 
Aguilera from Season 25 (the more cowbell sketch?):

http://www.thewrap.com/saturday-night-live-celebrates-season-40-with-airings-of-iconic-episodes/?utm_source=newsletterutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=contactology

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Scorpion

2014-09-24 Thread Kevin M.
The problem with a show like this is that either it has no authentic
technical advisors, or it desperately needs to fire the ones it has. In the
'80s you could have a show like Whiz Kids where a teenager sits in his
bedroom and rat-a-tats on a keyboard and stops a missile from launching. In
those days nobody questioned it. But if a series in 2014 is going to open
an episode with a title card indicating it is based on true events, then it
needs to have a solid footing in reality.

I didn't dislike the series, but the stereotypes need to become
full-fledged characters quickly or I'll lose interest.

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 FWIW, the reviewer at io9.com claimed a hacker scene in the pilot was the
 worst ever.


 http://io9.com/scorpion-brings-the-stupidest-most-batshit-insane-hack-1638333877

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Kenan Thompson departure from SNL disputed

2014-09-24 Thread JW
 My opinion of McKinnon is that she's the perfect successor to Wiig: she
 plays everything exactly the same, yelling and forcing punchlines down
the
 viewer;s throat with the subtlety and comedic chops of a rhinoceros.

I think of her as a modern day Cheri Oteri, where if a reaction is funny,
an overreaction is hilarious.

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[TV orNotTV] ESPN declares war on its biggest talent, becomes less credible than Fox News

2014-09-24 Thread Joe Hass
In one fell swoop, the network shows it's completely in the pocket of the
NFL, loses every inch of credibility it has, and effectively dares Bill
Simmons to walk.

http://deadspin.com/espn-suspends-bill-simmons-three-weeks-over-goodell-cri-1638842937

And I'm sure Olbermann is just warming up for tomorrow afternoon's
broadcast.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] ESPN declares war on its biggest talent, becomes less credible than Fox News

2014-09-24 Thread PGage
n Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:

 In one fell swoop, the network shows it's completely in the pocket of the
 NFL, loses every inch of credibility it has, and effectively dares Bill
 Simmons to walk.


 http://deadspin.com/espn-suspends-bill-simmons-three-weeks-over-goodell-cri-1638842937

 And I'm sure Olbermann is just warming up for tomorrow afternoon's
 broadcast.


This is remarkable. I detest Bill Simmons, and ESPN may have found a way to
make me like him. If there was ever any doubt about how completely ESPN has
sold its soul to the NFL the ESPN book obliterated it some years ago, but
this is a good example. I don't know the details of the contract Grantland
has with ESPN, but I hope it allows him to take his ball and go home.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Like a Good Neighbor, State Farm Drops Schneider

2014-09-24 Thread Ed Dravecky
Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.com wrote:
 That commercial for the insurance company in which Rob Schneider recreates
 his SNL character of the Copy Machine Guy has been dropped after a social
 media campaign that pointed out that Schneider is one of those anti-vaccine
 kooks:

A few Tea Party are trying to rally folks behind the Robmeister
because the PC Police are obviously only going after the Robinator
because he became a Republican in 2013 and some hard to parse notion
of free speech and the evil pro-vax forces and commie liberals and
such. I would ignore it, but these low-information voters are still
voters. Scarier than a season of Grimm.

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[TV orNotTV] Dear God, Why?

2014-09-24 Thread Mark Jeffries
Two (!) more summers of Big Brother on CBS making 18 cycles over 17 years 
(there was the one winter cycle put up because of the WGA strike):

http://www.thewrap.com/big-brother-renewed-for-seasons-17-and-18/?utm_source=newsletterutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=contactology

Of course, I know why--it continues to get good numbers for CBS and Les 
Moonves' squeeze is on the show.  And After Dark will be back next summer 
on what will be Pop instead of TVGN.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Scorpion

2014-09-24 Thread Ed Dravecky
Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was surprised (based on lowered expectations from reviews) to find her
 rather charming, and the show not immediately dismissible. But then, I'm
 smack-dab in the CBS demo.

I watch a disturbing amount of CBS primetime but I found the
Scorpion pilot to be little more than a sugar rush; lots of energy
but no substance. Waitress Paige is the only likeable adult in the
bunch and all of the characters are thinner than the plot (except
maybe Mechanical Genius Asian Lady) but I'll give it a few more tries
before I unset the recording.

Of all the computer stupidity in the show (and there was a season's
worth of 24-level computer stupidity packed into that hour) why
didn't the airport just get the backup from the vendor that supplied
the update? No company certified to do any business with anything
larger than a lemonade stand will be anything but awash in a sea of
backups and previous versions.

Also, that's not how airplanes work, how wi-fi works, how analog
cellphones work, or how even the loosest government contracting works.
Also, Chubby Math Guy Who Is Upset By Chalk should get a call from his
mom, tell the team he'll be right back, then head upstairs to Chuck
Cunningham's old room.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Scorpion

2014-09-24 Thread PGage
First of all, almost nobody on this show is anywhere near as attractive as
the people on Numb3rs (who were admittedly as a group absurdly attractive)
with the exception of the marginal character here who was actually also on
Numb3rs.

Second, while I don't know much about puters, I know enough about
psychology to know that the computer hack is not the only thing
ridiculously simplistic and inaccurate in this pilot.

Third, whoever is creatively behind this show is not very good at writing
dialogue or plotting narrative, but has a knack for basic story. At several
points when I was about ready to give up on this, I was hooked back in by
just a few nice touches. The story is not really about geniuses using their
big brains to stop bad things and people, but the thing at the end of the
pilot, where they make the deal that they will translate the kid to the
mom, and she will translate the world to them. That's pretty good - if only
the person who came up with that could hire someone who knows how to write
dialogue and shape plot development. But then, I guess if they had that
complete package this show would be on AMC or FXX. Instead it is on CBS,
and I saw enough to get me to give it a few more episodes and see if they
can do better when they don't have to carry the burden of explaining the
show.


On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:

 The problem with a show like this is that either it has no authentic
 technical advisors, or it desperately needs to fire the ones it has. In the
 '80s you could have a show like Whiz Kids where a teenager sits in his
 bedroom and rat-a-tats on a keyboard and stops a missile from launching. In
 those days nobody questioned it. But if a series in 2014 is going to open
 an episode with a title card indicating it is based on true events, then it
 needs to have a solid footing in reality.

 I didn't dislike the series, but the stereotypes need to become
 full-fledged characters quickly or I'll lose interest.

 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:06 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
 tvornottv@googlegroups.com wrote:

 FWIW, the reviewer at io9.com claimed a hacker scene in the pilot was
 the worst ever.


 http://io9.com/scorpion-brings-the-stupidest-most-batshit-insane-hack-1638333877

 David

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 It wants to be Numb3rs. It isn't Numb3rs. But Paige the waitress is
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 https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/pilot/id909052078?i=919843107

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[TV orNotTV] Re: ESPN declares war on its biggest talent, becomes less credible than Fox News

2014-09-24 Thread 'Greg Diener' via TVorNotTV
Remember ESPN's initial response when Stephen A. Smith said women should 
not say anything to provoke violence was to tease WATCH FIRST TAKE TO HEAR 
WHAT STEPHEN A. SMITH HAS TO SAY! before caving and giving him a one-week 
suspension after his non-apology apology.

Ironically Simmons suspension is longer than Screamin' A.'s and the initial 
punishment Goddell gave Ray Rice.

And I am no fan of Simmons myself either, but this is a joke and proves 
further why I'm happy to not watch the crap out of Bristol.

Greg

On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 8:31:41 PM UTC-4, Joe Hass wrote:

 In one fell swoop, the network shows it's completely in the pocket of the 
 NFL, loses every inch of credibility it has, and effectively dares Bill 
 Simmons to walk.


 http://deadspin.com/espn-suspends-bill-simmons-three-weeks-over-goodell-cri-1638842937

 And I'm sure Olbermann is just warming up for tomorrow afternoon's 
 broadcast.


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[TV orNotTV] Tomorrow Night: The Word Association Sketch on 'SNL Vintage'

2014-09-24 Thread M-D November
The vintage reruns are airing on Saturday (not Thursday) at 10 E, replacing the 
condensed rerun of the previous week's live show. 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Tomorrow Night: The Word Association Sketch on 'SNL Vintage'

2014-09-24 Thread Mark Jeffries
Yeah, yeah.  Gotta proof read.

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On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:46 PM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote:

 The vintage reruns are airing on Saturday (not Thursday) at 10 E,
 replacing the condensed rerun of the previous week's live show.

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