Re: [TV orNotTV] Apple announces multi-year content deal with Oprah Winfrey

[Tom Wolper]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 7:30 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> Howard Stern was furious when Sirius paid Oprah $55 million to produce a
> half hour of original programming a week in which she appeared (is that the
> right word for radio). All Sirius wanted was the ability to put Oprah on
> its ads in Radio Shack and Circuit City to give Oprah fans the idea they
> want a Sirius satellite radio. I get the feeling Apple is more interested
> in having Oprah's name associated with their product to bring attention to
> it than the content her production company will produce.
>

That's EXACTLY the model. Think of it in terms of something we here are
more familiar with - why did Netflix give David Letterman a monthly show?
We know it has nothing to do with ratings since Netflix has nothing to do
with them anyway. In fact they don't care how many watch each show since
everybody watching is already a subscriber and they are not selling
commercial time. The value of a Letterman show is the association of
Letterman to Netflix which gives incentive to people considering joining or
sustaining their subscriptions. And that's what Apple is paying Oprah for.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Apple announces multi-year content deal with Oprah Winfrey

[Steve Timko]

Howard Stern was furious when Sirius paid Oprah $55 million to produce a
half hour of original programming a week in which she appeared (is that the
right word for radio). All Sirius wanted was the ability to put Oprah on
its ads in Radio Shack and Circuit City to give Oprah fans the idea they
want a Sirius satellite radio. I get the feeling Apple is more interested
in having Oprah's name associated with their product to bring attention to
it than the content her production company will produce.

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Adam Bowie  wrote:

> Speaking of reading recommendations, I don't think it's been mentioned
> here, but I do recommend Joe Adalian's New York Magazine piece on Netflix:
> http://www.vulture.com/2018/06/how-netflix-swallowed-tv-industry.html
>
> It's a good inside read about how the business is run. I'm still a little
> unconvinced about their long-term business model which is heavily reliant
> on growing global viewers, which in itself means making lots of series in
> lots of languages to reach local viewers (House of Cards and Stranger
> Things won't cut it on their own in territories like India). So their
> spending has to remain high, and they just have to persuade more people to
> subscribe to them. That also means expensive marketing, because just seeing
> a tile on my Netflix homescreen is not enough on it's own.
>
> Anyway, I'm going way off topic. I'd still love to know what Apple's TV
> plans really are. Just because they're doing something doesn't mean it'll
> work. Beats 1 anyone?
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 2:15 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 1:36 AM Steve Timko  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> LOS ANGELES (AP) - Apple says it has reached a multiyear deal with Oprah
>>> Winfrey to create original programs for its streaming service.
>>> Apple said Friday the programs will be released worldwide as part of a
>>> lineup of original content.
>>> Apple has yet to launch its service, whose major competitors will
>>> include Amazon and Netflix.
>>> Winfrey founded and heads the OWN channel as chair and CEO. She recently
>>> extended her contract with OWN through 2025.
>>> An OWN spokeswoman said Winfrey has an exclusive on-camera deal with OWN
>>> but can appear elsewhere on a limited basis.
>>> Winfrey's content for Apple will be solely for the streaming service,
>>> the representative said.
>>>
>>
>> A while ago Adam mentioned that he was reading The Big Picture by Ben
>> Fritz. I have read it since then and I highly recommend it to this list in
>> order to get the context of what is going on in the business side of show
>> business today and how that affects what we see and where we see it. In
>> this case it means there will be more programming and TV as we know it will
>> be getting a smaller and smaller share of eyeballs. And as the streaming
>> services are willing to pay big bucks to build the branding for their
>> platforms, TV (both OTA and cable) won't be able to keep up and soon will
>> be lowering budgets and won't be able to produce breakout stars, and in the
>> rare case they do they won't be able to hold on to them.
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: are some Fox stations not carrying World Cup?

[PGage]

I have very much been enjoying the World Cup, and I do not really follow
soccer much outside of WC and Olympics. Fox has done a pretty good job with
it, and Mexico-Germany was huge here (California), but while the game has
finally started to get some traction, I dont thin we are yet at the place
where it will feel like an outrage to most American sports fans if a first
round WC match between Brazil and Switzerland is not available on broadcast
TV.

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 3:13 PM Adam Bowie  wrote:

> Not showing Germany-Mexico to a maximum audience seems like a massive
> miss! I know it'll have been on Spanish language TV, but it turned out to
> be a big upset and was an excellent game. The Brazil game later on was
> pretty good too.
>
> I'd be interested to know if FS1 is on that many cable packages. ESPN is a
> given right? But is FS1 normally in a lower tier or do you have to pay
> extra?
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 5:56 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:37 PM daniel anderson <
>> danielanderson2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Kind of surprised about that some Fox stations couldn't figure out what
>>> to do about their required E/I programming, since they knew well in advance
>>> about the game schedule- i'd given FS1 the morning games, to help Fox
>>> stations with their required E/I programming.
>>>
>>
>> FOX also has the US Open golf tournament this weekend. It makes more
>> sense for them to show early games on FOX and later ones on FS1. Mexico,
>> Germany, and Brazil should be huge audience draws and yet the only OTA game
>> they showed today was Serbia-Costa Rica at 8 AM ET/5 AM PT and the
>> Germany-Mexico and Brazil-Switzerland are on cable.
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Kimmel to play Ted Cruz in basketball

[Kevin M.]

Next up, Kimmel will play badminton against holocaust deniers and ping-pong
against the Klan.

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:12 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> Born of blobfish joke, Cruz edges Kimmel in basketball game
> HOUSTON (AP) - Texas Sen. Ted Cruz has triumphed over late night TV host
> Jimmy Kimmel in their much-hyped charity basketball game that Kimmel dubbed
> the Blobfish Basketball Classic.
> With each basket worth a single point, Cruz topped Kimmel 11-9 in a
> two-hour one-on-one match they agreed to abbreviate Saturday at Texas
> Southern University after neither appeared capable of reaching 15 points
> and winning by two.
> The Houston Chronicle described the matchup as "a slow-motion car-crash of
> half-court basketball." Speaking for both men, Kimmel said: "We apologize
> to the game of basketball."
> The game was born of a joke from Kimmel, who has said the Republican
> senator resembled the ocean bottom-dwelling blobfish. Cruz responded by
> challenging Kimmel to a basketball game.
> Two Houston charities are the beneficiaries. Game highlight videos are
> planned for Kimmel's ABC program Monday night.
>
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:16 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> Loser donates $5,000 to the non-political charity of the winner's choice.
>>
>> LINK 
>>
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Apple announces multi-year content deal with Oprah Winfrey

[Adam Bowie]

Speaking of reading recommendations, I don't think it's been mentioned
here, but I do recommend Joe Adalian's New York Magazine piece on Netflix:
http://www.vulture.com/2018/06/how-netflix-swallowed-tv-industry.html

It's a good inside read about how the business is run. I'm still a little
unconvinced about their long-term business model which is heavily reliant
on growing global viewers, which in itself means making lots of series in
lots of languages to reach local viewers (House of Cards and Stranger
Things won't cut it on their own in territories like India). So their
spending has to remain high, and they just have to persuade more people to
subscribe to them. That also means expensive marketing, because just seeing
a tile on my Netflix homescreen is not enough on it's own.

Anyway, I'm going way off topic. I'd still love to know what Apple's TV
plans really are. Just because they're doing something doesn't mean it'll
work. Beats 1 anyone?


Adam

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 2:15 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 1:36 AM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>>
>> LOS ANGELES (AP) - Apple says it has reached a multiyear deal with Oprah
>> Winfrey to create original programs for its streaming service.
>> Apple said Friday the programs will be released worldwide as part of a
>> lineup of original content.
>> Apple has yet to launch its service, whose major competitors will include
>> Amazon and Netflix.
>> Winfrey founded and heads the OWN channel as chair and CEO. She recently
>> extended her contract with OWN through 2025.
>> An OWN spokeswoman said Winfrey has an exclusive on-camera deal with OWN
>> but can appear elsewhere on a limited basis.
>> Winfrey's content for Apple will be solely for the streaming service, the
>> representative said.
>>
>
> A while ago Adam mentioned that he was reading The Big Picture by Ben
> Fritz. I have read it since then and I highly recommend it to this list in
> order to get the context of what is going on in the business side of show
> business today and how that affects what we see and where we see it. In
> this case it means there will be more programming and TV as we know it will
> be getting a smaller and smaller share of eyeballs. And as the streaming
> services are willing to pay big bucks to build the branding for their
> platforms, TV (both OTA and cable) won't be able to keep up and soon will
> be lowering budgets and won't be able to produce breakout stars, and in the
> rare case they do they won't be able to hold on to them.
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: are some Fox stations not carrying World Cup?

[Adam Bowie]

Not showing Germany-Mexico to a maximum audience seems like a massive miss!
I know it'll have been on Spanish language TV, but it turned out to be a
big upset and was an excellent game. The Brazil game later on was pretty
good too.

I'd be interested to know if FS1 is on that many cable packages. ESPN is a
given right? But is FS1 normally in a lower tier or do you have to pay
extra?


Adam

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 5:56 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:37 PM daniel anderson <
> danielanderson2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Kind of surprised about that some Fox stations couldn't figure out what
>> to do about their required E/I programming, since they knew well in advance
>> about the game schedule- i'd given FS1 the morning games, to help Fox
>> stations with their required E/I programming.
>>
>
> FOX also has the US Open golf tournament this weekend. It makes more sense
> for them to show early games on FOX and later ones on FS1. Mexico, Germany,
> and Brazil should be huge audience draws and yet the only OTA game they
> showed today was Serbia-Costa Rica at 8 AM ET/5 AM PT and the
> Germany-Mexico and Brazil-Switzerland are on cable.
>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Kimmel to play Ted Cruz in basketball

[Steve Timko]

Born of blobfish joke, Cruz edges Kimmel in basketball game
HOUSTON (AP) - Texas Sen. Ted Cruz has triumphed over late night TV host
Jimmy Kimmel in their much-hyped charity basketball game that Kimmel dubbed
the Blobfish Basketball Classic.
With each basket worth a single point, Cruz topped Kimmel 11-9 in a
two-hour one-on-one match they agreed to abbreviate Saturday at Texas
Southern University after neither appeared capable of reaching 15 points
and winning by two.
The Houston Chronicle described the matchup as "a slow-motion car-crash of
half-court basketball." Speaking for both men, Kimmel said: "We apologize
to the game of basketball."
The game was born of a joke from Kimmel, who has said the Republican
senator resembled the ocean bottom-dwelling blobfish. Cruz responded by
challenging Kimmel to a basketball game.
Two Houston charities are the beneficiaries. Game highlight videos are
planned for Kimmel's ABC program Monday night.


On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:16 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:

> Loser donates $5,000 to the non-political charity of the winner's choice.
>
> LINK 
>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: are some Fox stations not carrying World Cup?

[Tom Wolper]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:37 PM daniel anderson <
danielanderson2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Kind of surprised about that some Fox stations couldn't figure out what to
> do about their required E/I programming, since they knew well in advance
> about the game schedule- i'd given FS1 the morning games, to help Fox
> stations with their required E/I programming.
>

FOX also has the US Open golf tournament this weekend. It makes more sense
for them to show early games on FOX and later ones on FS1. Mexico, Germany,
and Brazil should be huge audience draws and yet the only OTA game they
showed today was Serbia-Costa Rica at 8 AM ET/5 AM PT and the
Germany-Mexico and Brazil-Switzerland are on cable.

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[TV orNotTV] Re: are some Fox stations not carrying World Cup?

[daniel anderson]

Kind of surprised about that some Fox stations couldn't figure out what to 
do about their required E/I programming, since they knew well in advance 
about the game schedule- i'd given FS1 the morning games, to help Fox 
stations with their required E/I programming.

On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 12:14:45 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> I see some markets opting out of some games, what's going on?
>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] are some Fox stations not carrying World Cup?

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Jun 17, 2018, at 9:14 AM, daniel anderson  
> wrote:
> 
> I see some markets opting out of some games, what's going on?

What I've heard is that those stations couldn't figure out what to do about 
their required E/I programming (for one, WVUE in New Orleans posted a note on 
their website that blamed "FCC regulations" for the fact they weren't carrying 
Saturday morning's Argentina-Iceland game, which is way oversimplifying).

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[TV orNotTV] are some Fox stations not carrying World Cup?

[daniel anderson]

I see some markets opting out of some games, what's going on?

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['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Matt "Guitar" Murphy was 88... appeared on SNL and in both movies.  CNN 

 
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