Re: [TV orNotTV] 'SNL' Origin Story Movie May Be Coming

[Kevin M.]

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 6:27 PM Melissa P 
wrote:

> SNL's problem has always been good writing (even in the early days), LOTS
> of consistently good writing.
>
> Also, experience outweighs youth in my opinion.
>
> I'm reminded of a taping of* Everyone Loves Raymond* I attended.  I got
> to tell Phil Rosenthal that one particular episode was one the finest
> sitcom episodes I had ever seen.  He identified the writer of that episode
> who was congregating with the show's other writers.  He was probably twice
> the age of anyone else on the writing team.   In this society, we seem to
> dismiss too quickly the value of experience.
>

I am a fan of Scrubs creator Bill Lawrence, but he will be the first to
admit that he’s not responsible for Ted Lasso or the other recent shows
where he’s credited as producer. As was done for him on Spin City, he now
serves as the elder statesman, shepherding new and younger writers and
producers. He sees it as his responsibility to foster the creativity of
future generations. Lorne Michaels would never consider anything like that.
He sees young talent as something to be milked for his own benefit.


> I'm not sure if anyone remembers, but I think I posted here an SNL sketch
> that actually made me laugh, the first time in years.  The setting was a
> Waffle House.  When I was in Memphis last month, the local lead news story
> was shootings at two Waffle Houses.  I had been to both of them.
>
> Gosh, Kevin, there's so much we're not teaching kids these days, starting
> with being able to separate fact from fiction, civics, and instilling in
> them the value of expertise.  (The Supreme Court is about to do away with
> the latter.)
>

Not for nothing, but the students I teach get lessons in all of the above,
and I also make sure they know and appreciate Johnny Carson, Mr Rogers,
Humphrey Bogart, and Snoopy, to name a few.


>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 4:05 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> I concur with your resentment, but I also understand the thought behind
>> the ageism. SNL has to cultivate a younger and more diverse audience if it
>> is going to survive while still not totally alienating its older viewers. I
>> think Michaels struggles with this, and I think Fey would struggle with it,
>> too, but less because of her age and more because of her inability to
>> pander without it seeming obvious (looking at you, Mean Girls reboot). A
>> younger showrunner more connected to modern popular culture might have a
>> better chance at reaching 14-year-olds, but teens and young adults are
>> unpredictable in their tastes and sensibilities (which is to say most have
>> neither taste nor sense). They might gravitate towards media produced by a
>> 50-something just because society doesn’t expect them to.
>>
>> Many of the middle school students I encounter consider themselves
>> Swifties but in the same breath say they hate country music. They believe
>> you cannot be successful on the basketball court without Nikes, but their
>> Nikes are the ones from Shoe City that on closer inspection aren’t really
>> Nikes. You can show them how your $20 water cup keeps drinks colder longer
>> than their $50 Stanley cup, but they will still maintain their cup is
>> superior. But any adult who tries to relate to them or speak to them using
>> their common slang (such as “sus” or “bussin’”) will be regarded as one
>> step below a pedophile. By and large, kids today (oh, how I hate that
>> expression) can spot someone talking down to them and immediately reject
>> them… it might be their only redeeming virtue. As long as SNL persists in
>> pandering, they will fail to capture the attention of kids today. Michaels
>> and Fey both only know how to do comedy that panders, which is not to say
>> there isn’t genuine laughter to be found in that mine, but it won’t hook
>> young audiences.
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 12:08 PM Melissa P 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll just add that I resent someone saying that at 53, Fey is too old
>>> for the job.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 2:58 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>>
 Lorne’s superpower was that nobody at NBC would mess with him. Once
 he’s out of the picture the new showrunner will have to answer to all of
 the network’s executives. It’s a wonder the show lasted as long as it did
 with him and it won’t last long without him.

 On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 2:08 PM Dave Sikula 
 wrote:

> Plus, I would think Fey has too many other real projects (and common
> sense) to want to take that nightmare on.
>
> —Dave Sikula
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 20, 2024, at 6:50 AM, PGage  wrote:
>
> 
> Meanwhile, Lorne mentioned in interviews during his CA Emmys trip that
> he is planning on staying with the show through the 50th anniversary
> special in January of 2025, but hinted he would retire soon after. He
> agreed to a suggestion that Tina Fey is one of several 

Re: [TV orNotTV] 'SNL' Origin Story Movie May Be Coming

[Melissa P]

SNL's problem has always been good writing (even in the early days), LOTS
of consistently good writing.

Also, experience outweighs youth in my opinion.

I'm reminded of a taping of* Everyone Loves Raymond* I attended.  I got to
tell Phil Rosenthal that one particular episode was one the finest sitcom
episodes I had ever seen.  He identified the writer of that episode who was
congregating with the show's other writers.  He was probably twice the age
of anyone else on the writing team.   In this society, we seem to dismiss
too quickly the value of experience.

I'm not sure if anyone remembers, but I think I posted here an SNL sketch
that actually made me laugh, the first time in years.  The setting was a
Waffle House.  When I was in Memphis last month, the local lead news story
was shootings at two Waffle Houses.  I had been to both of them.

Gosh, Kevin, there's so much we're not teaching kids these days, starting
with being able to separate fact from fiction, civics, and instilling in
them the value of expertise.  (The Supreme Court is about to do away with
the latter.)


On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 4:05 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> I concur with your resentment, but I also understand the thought behind
> the ageism. SNL has to cultivate a younger and more diverse audience if it
> is going to survive while still not totally alienating its older viewers. I
> think Michaels struggles with this, and I think Fey would struggle with it,
> too, but less because of her age and more because of her inability to
> pander without it seeming obvious (looking at you, Mean Girls reboot). A
> younger showrunner more connected to modern popular culture might have a
> better chance at reaching 14-year-olds, but teens and young adults are
> unpredictable in their tastes and sensibilities (which is to say most have
> neither taste nor sense). They might gravitate towards media produced by a
> 50-something just because society doesn’t expect them to.
>
> Many of the middle school students I encounter consider themselves
> Swifties but in the same breath say they hate country music. They believe
> you cannot be successful on the basketball court without Nikes, but their
> Nikes are the ones from Shoe City that on closer inspection aren’t really
> Nikes. You can show them how your $20 water cup keeps drinks colder longer
> than their $50 Stanley cup, but they will still maintain their cup is
> superior. But any adult who tries to relate to them or speak to them using
> their common slang (such as “sus” or “bussin’”) will be regarded as one
> step below a pedophile. By and large, kids today (oh, how I hate that
> expression) can spot someone talking down to them and immediately reject
> them… it might be their only redeeming virtue. As long as SNL persists in
> pandering, they will fail to capture the attention of kids today. Michaels
> and Fey both only know how to do comedy that panders, which is not to say
> there isn’t genuine laughter to be found in that mine, but it won’t hook
> young audiences.
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 12:08 PM Melissa P 
> wrote:
>
>> I'll just add that I resent someone saying that at 53, Fey is too old for
>> the job.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 2:58 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>
>>> Lorne’s superpower was that nobody at NBC would mess with him. Once he’s
>>> out of the picture the new showrunner will have to answer to all of the
>>> network’s executives. It’s a wonder the show lasted as long as it did with
>>> him and it won’t last long without him.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 2:08 PM Dave Sikula 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Plus, I would think Fey has too many other real projects (and common
 sense) to want to take that nightmare on.

 —Dave Sikula
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 20, 2024, at 6:50 AM, PGage  wrote:

 
 Meanwhile, Lorne mentioned in interviews during his CA Emmys trip that
 he is planning on staying with the show through the 50th anniversary
 special in January of 2025, but hinted he would retire soon after. He
 agreed to a suggestion that Tina Fey is one of several who has what it
 takes to replace him.

 Fey does make sense in many ways, except…she old. Michaels was around
 30 when he started SNL, and was in touch personally or culturally with much
 of the cutting edge in comedy and music. Fey is 53. Of course Lorne wants
 someone who will tend the flame and not reinvent the show. Still, I might
 be looking for someone like some Writer/Producer who worked with like Conan
 or TDS and is in their 30s.


 https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lorne-michaels-retiring-snl-just-153758117.html


 Sent from Gmail Mobile


 On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 at 10:23 PM Mark Jeffries 
 wrote:

> Written and directed by Jason Reitman for Sony, "SNL 1975" tells the
> story behind-the-scenes of the weeks before the NBC late-night institution
> began its run--Gabriel 

Re: [TV orNotTV] 'SNL' Origin Story Movie May Be Coming

[PGage]

That was I who said that, and I am old enough that Tina Fey seems like a
young woman to me. She is not too old to do the job, obviously, since the
guy she would be replacing is older than dirt. But she is too old to be a
young, hip producer of new and subversive forms of comedy. I think that is
self evident.

Lorne Michael’s long awaited retirement should be, it seems to me, an
opportunity for SNL to finally stop cloning paler and weaker versions of
itself, and try to recapture the energy of its original incarnation, when
it was defined mostly by what it was trying not to be - not the Carol
Burnett Show, not Bob Hope, not Johnny Carson. I have no idea what that
would look like today, or if it is possible, but I would rather see them
fail trying rather than more of the same. I won’t retract the age comment,
though perhaps I should state what to me is obvious, which is that Fey
would do a much better job of doing the current version of SNL than Lorne
does.

Sent from Gmail Mobile


On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 at 12:08 PM Melissa P 
wrote:

> I'll just add that I resent someone saying that at 53, Fey is too old for
> the job.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 2:58 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> Lorne’s superpower was that nobody at NBC would mess with him. Once he’s
>> out of the picture the new showrunner will have to answer to all of the
>> network’s executives. It’s a wonder the show lasted as long as it did with
>> him and it won’t last long without him.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 2:08 PM Dave Sikula  wrote:
>>
>>> Plus, I would think Fey has too many other real projects (and common
>>> sense) to want to take that nightmare on.
>>>
>>> —Dave Sikula
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2024, at 6:50 AM, PGage  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Meanwhile, Lorne mentioned in interviews during his CA Emmys trip that
>>> he is planning on staying with the show through the 50th anniversary
>>> special in January of 2025, but hinted he would retire soon after. He
>>> agreed to a suggestion that Tina Fey is one of several who has what it
>>> takes to replace him.
>>>
>>> Fey does make sense in many ways, except…she old. Michaels was around 30
>>> when he started SNL, and was in touch personally or culturally with much of
>>> the cutting edge in comedy and music. Fey is 53. Of course Lorne wants
>>> someone who will tend the flame and not reinvent the show. Still, I might
>>> be looking for someone like some Writer/Producer who worked with like Conan
>>> or TDS and is in their 30s.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lorne-michaels-retiring-snl-just-153758117.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 at 10:23 PM Mark Jeffries 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Written and directed by Jason Reitman for Sony, "SNL 1975" tells the
 story behind-the-scenes of the weeks before the NBC late-night institution
 began its run--Gabriel LaBelle, who played the Spielberg stand-in in "The
 Fabelmans," is playing Lorne, with Cooper Hoffman ("Licorice Pizza") as
 Lorne's immediate NBC boss Dick Ebersol and Rachel Sennott ("The Idol,"
 "Bottoms") as Rosie Schuster, Lorne's wife and a writer on the show--the
 question is, who's playing the Not Ready for Prime Time Players:


 https://deadline.com/2024/01/the-fablemans-gabriel-labelle-lorne-michaels-snl-1975-cooper-hoffman-rachel-sennott-1235797505/

 And of course Sikula and Marousek will hate it.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'SNL' Origin Story Movie May Be Coming

[Kevin M.]

I concur with your resentment, but I also understand the thought behind the
ageism. SNL has to cultivate a younger and more diverse audience if it is
going to survive while still not totally alienating its older viewers. I
think Michaels struggles with this, and I think Fey would struggle with it,
too, but less because of her age and more because of her inability to
pander without it seeming obvious (looking at you, Mean Girls reboot). A
younger showrunner more connected to modern popular culture might have a
better chance at reaching 14-year-olds, but teens and young adults are
unpredictable in their tastes and sensibilities (which is to say most have
neither taste nor sense). They might gravitate towards media produced by a
50-something just because society doesn’t expect them to.

Many of the middle school students I encounter consider themselves Swifties
but in the same breath say they hate country music. They believe you cannot
be successful on the basketball court without Nikes, but their Nikes are
the ones from Shoe City that on closer inspection aren’t really Nikes. You
can show them how your $20 water cup keeps drinks colder longer than their
$50 Stanley cup, but they will still maintain their cup is superior. But
any adult who tries to relate to them or speak to them using their common
slang (such as “sus” or “bussin’”) will be regarded as one step below a
pedophile. By and large, kids today (oh, how I hate that expression) can
spot someone talking down to them and immediately reject them… it might be
their only redeeming virtue. As long as SNL persists in pandering, they
will fail to capture the attention of kids today. Michaels and Fey both
only know how to do comedy that panders, which is not to say there isn’t
genuine laughter to be found in that mine, but it won’t hook young
audiences.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 12:08 PM Melissa P 
wrote:

> I'll just add that I resent someone saying that at 53, Fey is too old for
> the job.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 2:58 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> Lorne’s superpower was that nobody at NBC would mess with him. Once he’s
>> out of the picture the new showrunner will have to answer to all of the
>> network’s executives. It’s a wonder the show lasted as long as it did with
>> him and it won’t last long without him.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 2:08 PM Dave Sikula  wrote:
>>
>>> Plus, I would think Fey has too many other real projects (and common
>>> sense) to want to take that nightmare on.
>>>
>>> —Dave Sikula
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2024, at 6:50 AM, PGage  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Meanwhile, Lorne mentioned in interviews during his CA Emmys trip that
>>> he is planning on staying with the show through the 50th anniversary
>>> special in January of 2025, but hinted he would retire soon after. He
>>> agreed to a suggestion that Tina Fey is one of several who has what it
>>> takes to replace him.
>>>
>>> Fey does make sense in many ways, except…she old. Michaels was around 30
>>> when he started SNL, and was in touch personally or culturally with much of
>>> the cutting edge in comedy and music. Fey is 53. Of course Lorne wants
>>> someone who will tend the flame and not reinvent the show. Still, I might
>>> be looking for someone like some Writer/Producer who worked with like Conan
>>> or TDS and is in their 30s.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lorne-michaels-retiring-snl-just-153758117.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 at 10:23 PM Mark Jeffries 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Written and directed by Jason Reitman for Sony, "SNL 1975" tells the
 story behind-the-scenes of the weeks before the NBC late-night institution
 began its run--Gabriel LaBelle, who played the Spielberg stand-in in "The
 Fabelmans," is playing Lorne, with Cooper Hoffman ("Licorice Pizza") as
 Lorne's immediate NBC boss Dick Ebersol and Rachel Sennott ("The Idol,"
 "Bottoms") as Rosie Schuster, Lorne's wife and a writer on the show--the
 question is, who's playing the Not Ready for Prime Time Players:


 https://deadline.com/2024/01/the-fablemans-gabriel-labelle-lorne-michaels-snl-1975-cooper-hoffman-rachel-sennott-1235797505/

 And of course Sikula and Marousek will hate it.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Adam Bowie]

On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 8:06 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> The charm of the past and current generation of late night hosts is their
> acknowledgment of when a joke or bit doesn’t work. Dave was a master of it,
> bringing the audience into his own discomfort. Seth gleefully throws a
> writer under the bus when a monologue joke falls flat. My big problem with
> After Midnight is every joke gets a huge laugh and earns points whether or
> not it’s actually funny.
>
>
I think that's why you have to edit ruthlessly on this type of show. I
don't think it's a problem that in the final show, most jokes do, rather
than don't work. But you should lose a good 50% of what you record. And I'm
just not sure you can do that successfully if you're recording only a few
hours before broadcast. Of course, if you're smart, you can lean into
things that don't work. Reference the fact that nobody in the audience gets
it.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'SNL' Origin Story Movie May Be Coming

[Melissa P]

I'll just add that I resent someone saying that at 53, Fey is too old for
the job.


On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 2:58 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> Lorne’s superpower was that nobody at NBC would mess with him. Once he’s
> out of the picture the new showrunner will have to answer to all of the
> network’s executives. It’s a wonder the show lasted as long as it did with
> him and it won’t last long without him.
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 2:08 PM Dave Sikula  wrote:
>
>> Plus, I would think Fey has too many other real projects (and common
>> sense) to want to take that nightmare on.
>>
>> —Dave Sikula
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2024, at 6:50 AM, PGage  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Meanwhile, Lorne mentioned in interviews during his CA Emmys trip that he
>> is planning on staying with the show through the 50th anniversary special
>> in January of 2025, but hinted he would retire soon after. He agreed to a
>> suggestion that Tina Fey is one of several who has what it takes to replace
>> him.
>>
>> Fey does make sense in many ways, except…she old. Michaels was around 30
>> when he started SNL, and was in touch personally or culturally with much of
>> the cutting edge in comedy and music. Fey is 53. Of course Lorne wants
>> someone who will tend the flame and not reinvent the show. Still, I might
>> be looking for someone like some Writer/Producer who worked with like Conan
>> or TDS and is in their 30s.
>>
>>
>> https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lorne-michaels-retiring-snl-just-153758117.html
>>
>>
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 at 10:23 PM Mark Jeffries 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Written and directed by Jason Reitman for Sony, "SNL 1975" tells the
>>> story behind-the-scenes of the weeks before the NBC late-night institution
>>> began its run--Gabriel LaBelle, who played the Spielberg stand-in in "The
>>> Fabelmans," is playing Lorne, with Cooper Hoffman ("Licorice Pizza") as
>>> Lorne's immediate NBC boss Dick Ebersol and Rachel Sennott ("The Idol,"
>>> "Bottoms") as Rosie Schuster, Lorne's wife and a writer on the show--the
>>> question is, who's playing the Not Ready for Prime Time Players:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://deadline.com/2024/01/the-fablemans-gabriel-labelle-lorne-michaels-snl-1975-cooper-hoffman-rachel-sennott-1235797505/
>>>
>>> And of course Sikula and Marousek will hate it.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'After Midnight' Finally Premiering--POINTS!

[Tom Wolper]

The charm of the past and current generation of late night hosts is their
acknowledgment of when a joke or bit doesn’t work. Dave was a master of it,
bringing the audience into his own discomfort. Seth gleefully throws a
writer under the bus when a monologue joke falls flat. My big problem with
After Midnight is every joke gets a huge laugh and earns points whether or
not it’s actually funny.

On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 12:15 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I watched the second episode (mainly because of Tompkins) and got to
> notice three things. One is that it didn't get much better; it really runs
> out of gas after about thirty minutes. Two is that I just don't find
> Tomlinson funny or host material. The third -- and most irritating -- is
> that everyone (especially the host) spends the episode shouting. It becomes
> very unpleasant.
>
> Like I said, I might tune in again, but it'll be strictly depending on the
> guests.
>
> --Dave Sikula
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Maher to Calif. governor: "Why didn't you take a more active role in resolving the strikes?"

[Melissa P]

Here's what I don't like about Maher:

1.  His spreading of misinformation about covid (and before that, promoting
non-science based medicine).

2.  His fat-shaming -- although I don't think he's done it yet this season.

3.  Most recently, his conversation with Congressman Dean Phillips of
Minnesota who's running to defeat Biden in the Democratic primary.  Maher
mentioned that others have noted a resemblance between him and Phillips and
mentioned that Phillips is Jewish -- without also mentioning that his
mother was Jewish.  He should have added that fact to the conversation.

That said, I watch *Real Time* every week, for two reasons:  (1) It has the
best writing staff of late night comedy show, and (2) It often makes me
think, even when I don't like what's being said.

Finally, the Governor is really good looking.


On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 11:04 AM Kevin M.  wrote:

> No one can convince me that Bill Maher hasn’t turned into a vampire.
> Literally rabid. Literally blood sucking. At the very least, sucking.
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 6:33 AM PGage  wrote:
>
>> Better question for Gavin: Why are you giving oxygen to an intellectually
>> lazy, morally toxic spent force like Maher?
>>
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 at 5:37 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Newsom: We were doing a very good job behind the scenes, and attempts to
>>> mediate were turned down on both sides...
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/gavin-newsom-hollywood-strikes-bill-maher-real-time-1235793990/
>>>  (link)
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'SNL' Origin Story Movie May Be Coming

[Tom Wolper]

Lorne’s superpower was that nobody at NBC would mess with him. Once he’s
out of the picture the new showrunner will have to answer to all of the
network’s executives. It’s a wonder the show lasted as long as it did with
him and it won’t last long without him.

On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 2:08 PM Dave Sikula  wrote:

> Plus, I would think Fey has too many other real projects (and common
> sense) to want to take that nightmare on.
>
> —Dave Sikula
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 20, 2024, at 6:50 AM, PGage  wrote:
>
> 
> Meanwhile, Lorne mentioned in interviews during his CA Emmys trip that he
> is planning on staying with the show through the 50th anniversary special
> in January of 2025, but hinted he would retire soon after. He agreed to a
> suggestion that Tina Fey is one of several who has what it takes to replace
> him.
>
> Fey does make sense in many ways, except…she old. Michaels was around 30
> when he started SNL, and was in touch personally or culturally with much of
> the cutting edge in comedy and music. Fey is 53. Of course Lorne wants
> someone who will tend the flame and not reinvent the show. Still, I might
> be looking for someone like some Writer/Producer who worked with like Conan
> or TDS and is in their 30s.
>
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lorne-michaels-retiring-snl-just-153758117.html
>
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 at 10:23 PM Mark Jeffries 
> wrote:
>
>> Written and directed by Jason Reitman for Sony, "SNL 1975" tells the
>> story behind-the-scenes of the weeks before the NBC late-night institution
>> began its run--Gabriel LaBelle, who played the Spielberg stand-in in "The
>> Fabelmans," is playing Lorne, with Cooper Hoffman ("Licorice Pizza") as
>> Lorne's immediate NBC boss Dick Ebersol and Rachel Sennott ("The Idol,"
>> "Bottoms") as Rosie Schuster, Lorne's wife and a writer on the show--the
>> question is, who's playing the Not Ready for Prime Time Players:
>>
>>
>> https://deadline.com/2024/01/the-fablemans-gabriel-labelle-lorne-michaels-snl-1975-cooper-hoffman-rachel-sennott-1235797505/
>>
>> And of course Sikula and Marousek will hate it.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Ed O'Neill nearly went into organized crime

[Melissa P]

Mr. O'Neill was on TV this week.

https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/ed-o-neill-slap-in-the-face-for-alma-mater-ysu-to-make-gop-election-denier-president-202047045967


On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 8:44 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> So he told his "Modern Family" mate Jesse Tyler Ferguson on the latter's
> podcast this week... after a friend suggested such to him back in the 60s
> in Ohio, O'Neill asked his father, who said, "You couldn't do time. You'd
> have a hard time being in jail."
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/modern-family-ed-oneill-organized-crime-1235793989/
>  (link)
> B
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'SNL' Origin Story Movie May Be Coming

[Dave Sikula]

Plus, I would think Fey has too many other real projects (and common sense) to want to take that nightmare on.—Dave SikulaSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 20, 2024, at 6:50 AM, PGage  wrote:Meanwhile, Lorne mentioned in interviews during his CA Emmys trip that he is planning on staying with the show through the 50th anniversary special in January of 2025, but hinted he would retire soon after. He agreed to a suggestion that Tina Fey is one of several who has what it takes to replace him.Fey does make sense in many ways, except…she old. Michaels was around 30 when he started SNL, and was in touch personally or culturally with much of the cutting edge in comedy and music. Fey is 53. Of course Lorne wants someone who will tend the flame and not reinvent the show. Still, I might be looking for someone like some Writer/Producer who worked with like Conan or TDS and is in their 30s.https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lorne-michaels-retiring-snl-just-153758117.htmlSent from Gmail MobileOn Fri, 19 Jan 2024 at 10:23 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:Written and directed by Jason Reitman for Sony, "SNL 1975" tells the story behind-the-scenes of the weeks before the NBC late-night institution began its run--Gabriel LaBelle, who played the Spielberg stand-in in "The Fabelmans," is playing Lorne, with Cooper Hoffman ("Licorice Pizza") as Lorne's immediate NBC boss Dick Ebersol and Rachel Sennott ("The Idol," "Bottoms") as Rosie Schuster, Lorne's wife and a writer on the show--the question is, who's playing the Not Ready for Prime Time Players:https://deadline.com/2024/01/the-fablemans-gabriel-labelle-lorne-michaels-snl-1975-cooper-hoffman-rachel-sennott-1235797505/And of course Sikula and Marousek will hate it.



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[TV orNotTV] WBD's Sports Division Renamed TNT Sports

[Mark Jeffries]

The TNT Sports name is already being used in the UK and Latin America and 
now WBD Sports (formerly Turner Sports--I didn't realize they'd changed the 
name) will now use the TNT branding worldwide, which I assume will include 
what is currently the B/R Sports tier on Max:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/tnt-sports-launches-wbd-sports-rebranded-nba-march-madness-1235791804/

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Sports Illustrated about to lay off nearly all its editorial staff: report

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

An official of Authentic told media-critic site Awful Announcing they are 
not closing the operation and are actively searching for a new partner... 
it appears Arena initiated the parting, after naming the founder of 5-Hour 
Energy as its new CEO... still, sports figures and fans alike are mourning 
what could be...
https://frontofficesports.com/sports-illustrateds-publisher-lays-off-entire-staff-future-unclear/
https://awfulannouncing.com/si/sports-illustrated-owner-authentic-publication-not-go-dark.html
https://awfulannouncing.com/si/sports-illustrated-layoffs-memories-athletes.html
 (links)
B

On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 2:02:39 PM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:

> After Arena Group, f/k/a Maven, which licensed the legendary property from 
> Authentic Brands Group, missed a payment and lost the license...
>
> https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/sports-illustrated-layoffs-1235877983/
>  (link)
> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Maher to Calif. governor: "Why didn't you take a more active role in resolving the strikes?"

[Kevin M.]

No one can convince me that Bill Maher hasn’t turned into a vampire.
Literally rabid. Literally blood sucking. At the very least, sucking.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 6:33 AM PGage  wrote:

> Better question for Gavin: Why are you giving oxygen to an intellectually
> lazy, morally toxic spent force like Maher?
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 at 5:37 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Newsom: We were doing a very good job behind the scenes, and attempts to
>> mediate were turned down on both sides...
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/gavin-newsom-hollywood-strikes-bill-maher-real-time-1235793990/
>>  (link)
>>
>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'SNL' Origin Story Movie May Be Coming

[PGage]

Meanwhile, Lorne mentioned in interviews during his CA Emmys trip that he
is planning on staying with the show through the 50th anniversary special
in January of 2025, but hinted he would retire soon after. He agreed to a
suggestion that Tina Fey is one of several who has what it takes to replace
him.

Fey does make sense in many ways, except…she old. Michaels was around 30
when he started SNL, and was in touch personally or culturally with much of
the cutting edge in comedy and music. Fey is 53. Of course Lorne wants
someone who will tend the flame and not reinvent the show. Still, I might
be looking for someone like some Writer/Producer who worked with like Conan
or TDS and is in their 30s.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lorne-michaels-retiring-snl-just-153758117.html


Sent from Gmail Mobile


On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 at 10:23 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> Written and directed by Jason Reitman for Sony, "SNL 1975" tells the story
> behind-the-scenes of the weeks before the NBC late-night institution began
> its run--Gabriel LaBelle, who played the Spielberg stand-in in "The
> Fabelmans," is playing Lorne, with Cooper Hoffman ("Licorice Pizza") as
> Lorne's immediate NBC boss Dick Ebersol and Rachel Sennott ("The Idol,"
> "Bottoms") as Rosie Schuster, Lorne's wife and a writer on the show--the
> question is, who's playing the Not Ready for Prime Time Players:
>
>
> https://deadline.com/2024/01/the-fablemans-gabriel-labelle-lorne-michaels-snl-1975-cooper-hoffman-rachel-sennott-1235797505/
>
> And of course Sikula and Marousek will hate it.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Maher to Calif. governor: "Why didn't you take a more active role in resolving the strikes?"

[PGage]

Better question for Gavin: Why are you giving oxygen to an intellectually
lazy, morally toxic spent force like Maher?

Sent from Gmail Mobile


On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 at 5:37 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Newsom: We were doing a very good job behind the scenes, and attempts to
> mediate were turned down on both sides...
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/gavin-newsom-hollywood-strikes-bill-maher-real-time-1235793990/
>  (link)
>
> B
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[TV orNotTV] Ed O'Neill nearly went into organized crime

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

So he told his "Modern Family" mate Jesse Tyler Ferguson on the latter's 
podcast this week... after a friend suggested such to him back in the 60s 
in Ohio, O'Neill asked his father, who said, "You couldn't do time. You'd 
have a hard time being in jail."
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/modern-family-ed-oneill-organized-crime-1235793989/
 (link)
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[TV orNotTV] Maher to Calif. governor: "Why didn't you take a more active role in resolving the strikes?"

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Newsom: We were doing a very good job behind the scenes, and attempts to 
mediate were turned down on both sides...
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/gavin-newsom-hollywood-strikes-bill-maher-real-time-1235793990/
 (link)
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[TV orNotTV] Re: NotTV, yet: Cheryl Hines thrust into a much different arena

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

THR caught up with her, and they talked of what you'd expect... life with 
Kennedy, and with Larry David...
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lifestyle/lifestyle-news/cheryl-hines-interview-larry-david-marriage-robert-f-kennedy-jr-1235790790/
 (link)

(I'm presuming the NYT link expired, they ain't supposed to be forever) 
B

Moi, June 10th 2023:

Politics, as the partner of Presidential hopeful Robert Kennedy jnr. "“I 
support Bobby and I want to be there for him, and I want him to feel loved 
and supported by me. And at the same time, I don’t feel the need to go to 
every political event, because I do have my own career.”

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[TV orNotTV] Re: 'SNL' Origin Story Movie May Be Coming

['Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV]

Not half as much as I'll hate that Brat Pack atrocity.

--Dave Sikula

On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 10:23:16 PM UTC-8 Mark Jeffries wrote:

> Written and directed by Jason Reitman for Sony, "SNL 1975" tells the story 
> behind-the-scenes of the weeks before the NBC late-night institution began 
> its run--Gabriel LaBelle, who played the Spielberg stand-in in "The 
> Fabelmans," is playing Lorne, with Cooper Hoffman ("Licorice Pizza") as 
> Lorne's immediate NBC boss Dick Ebersol and Rachel Sennott ("The Idol," 
> "Bottoms") as Rosie Schuster, Lorne's wife and a writer on the show--the 
> question is, who's playing the Not Ready for Prime Time Players:
>
>
> https://deadline.com/2024/01/the-fablemans-gabriel-labelle-lorne-michaels-snl-1975-cooper-hoffman-rachel-sennott-1235797505/
>
> And of course Sikula and Marousek will hate it.
>

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