Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl ratings

2024-01-28 Thread PGage
I think we are still some years off from the Super Bowl being exclusively
on Peacock or some other streamer (this year you will have the option of
watching on P+).  And while it is difficult to make predictions about
absolute broadcast ratings these days, it is a lock that for as long as
linear television is a thing, the NFL will increasingly be what keeps it
alive, Swift or no Swift.

But I guess Steve’s question really is whether Swift fans who did not
previously follow the NFL will start after sampling the Super Bowl due to
her influence. To a large extent that has been the rationale behind the pop
music halftime concerts of course. The NFL has been obscenely successful,
so maybe that does work to some extent, and maybe we will see some
SwiftEffect on the margins. I suspect any significant Swift Effect though
would result from a long term relationship between her and Kelce, with her
continuing to post pics on her social media of her watching and enjoying
football.

Sent from Gmail Mobile


On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 at 3:41 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> As we are at the twilight of broadcast television, it is difficult to
> predict how the SuperBowl will fare when viewers must stream it. Sports has
> maintained ratings compared to other produced series, but sponsors are
> starting to realize that doesn’t automatically lead to audiences buying
> advertised products (in fact, rarely does it lead to that).
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 3:37 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> So Super Bowl ratings will spike this year since Taylor Swift will likely
>> be there. She is scheduled to play Feb. 10 at the Tokyo Dome. That gives
>> her enough time to take her private jet to Las Vegas for the Super Bowl.
>>
>> My question is, will this spike have a lasting effect? Will more people
>> watch the Super Bowl in following years, even if Taylor is not there? I
>> think it will.
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAH5J8yw9X6aELjikqtAf8yag-MK4rMoyfbVvfc6HOXn_QR2-7Q%40mail.gmail.com
>> 
>> .
>>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "TVorNotTV" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4Cfdns8B1E6rryO4eS72Gh9L-Lops2w8sRzhJ9PuEXmpw%40mail.gmail.com
> 
> .
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYKha790BMQ6Ni2PGQ5z%2B2sMbs-vo-dj%2BUW8r5RkqBRLzA%40mail.gmail.com.


Re: [TV orNotTV] Super Bowl ratings

2024-01-28 Thread Kevin M.
As we are at the twilight of broadcast television, it is difficult to
predict how the SuperBowl will fare when viewers must stream it. Sports has
maintained ratings compared to other produced series, but sponsors are
starting to realize that doesn’t automatically lead to audiences buying
advertised products (in fact, rarely does it lead to that).

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 3:37 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> So Super Bowl ratings will spike this year since Taylor Swift will likely
> be there. She is scheduled to play Feb. 10 at the Tokyo Dome. That gives
> her enough time to take her private jet to Las Vegas for the Super Bowl.
>
> My question is, will this spike have a lasting effect? Will more people
> watch the Super Bowl in following years, even if Taylor is not there? I
> think it will.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "TVorNotTV" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAH5J8yw9X6aELjikqtAf8yag-MK4rMoyfbVvfc6HOXn_QR2-7Q%40mail.gmail.com
> 
> .
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4Cfdns8B1E6rryO4eS72Gh9L-Lops2w8sRzhJ9PuEXmpw%40mail.gmail.com.


[TV orNotTV] Super Bowl ratings

2024-01-28 Thread Steve Timko
So Super Bowl ratings will spike this year since Taylor Swift will likely
be there. She is scheduled to play Feb. 10 at the Tokyo Dome. That gives
her enough time to take her private jet to Las Vegas for the Super Bowl.

My question is, will this spike have a lasting effect? Will more people
watch the Super Bowl in following years, even if Taylor is not there? I
think it will.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAH5J8yw9X6aELjikqtAf8yag-MK4rMoyfbVvfc6HOXn_QR2-7Q%40mail.gmail.com.


Re: [TV orNotTV] Siwa Replaces Lythgoe on 'Dance' Panel

2024-01-28 Thread Mark Jeffries
However, that still won't stop Gutfeld.  As if we should really care.

Mark Jeffries
spotligh...@gmail.com


On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 11:13 AM Mark Jeffries 
wrote:

> OK.  Thanks for the correction.
>
> Mark Jeffries
> spotligh...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:29 AM Jim Ellwanger 
> wrote:
>
>> "Trans"? As far as I can tell, JoJo Siwa is still using she/her pronouns.
>> She announced a couple years ago that the proper label for her sexuality is
>> "pansexual," but that's something different than being trans.
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2024, at 7:17 AM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
>>
>> JoJo Siwa, the trans Nickelodeon star and singer, will be replacing "So
>> You Think You Can Dance" creator Nigel Lythgoe on the Fox reality comp's
>> panel this season after accusations by Paula Abdul regarding alleged sexual
>> improprieties--oh goody, Gutfeld now can say tasteless things about her and
>> preface them with that old "Fox News is not Fox Broadcasting" crap:
>>
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/jojo-siwa-so-you-think-you-can-dance-nigel-lythgoe-1235808518/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/7ffce0ca-c47c-49c7-afa6-cc2950ce1000n%40googlegroups.com
>> 
>> .
>>
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/619A5124-C3E6-4153-BFEC-37597042DD98%40ellwanger.tv
>> 
>> .
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJ_uKi97gsT1zZ1HN0ubnNaNMYooRYChzfaVKtZu%2BGTScnMSbg%40mail.gmail.com.


Re: [TV orNotTV] Siwa Replaces Lythgoe on 'Dance' Panel

2024-01-28 Thread Mark Jeffries
OK.  Thanks for the correction.

Mark Jeffries
spotligh...@gmail.com


On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:29 AM Jim Ellwanger 
wrote:

> "Trans"? As far as I can tell, JoJo Siwa is still using she/her pronouns.
> She announced a couple years ago that the proper label for her sexuality is
> "pansexual," but that's something different than being trans.
>
> On Jan 28, 2024, at 7:17 AM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
>
> JoJo Siwa, the trans Nickelodeon star and singer, will be replacing "So
> You Think You Can Dance" creator Nigel Lythgoe on the Fox reality comp's
> panel this season after accusations by Paula Abdul regarding alleged sexual
> improprieties--oh goody, Gutfeld now can say tasteless things about her and
> preface them with that old "Fox News is not Fox Broadcasting" crap:
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/jojo-siwa-so-you-think-you-can-dance-nigel-lythgoe-1235808518/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "TVorNotTV" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/7ffce0ca-c47c-49c7-afa6-cc2950ce1000n%40googlegroups.com
> 
> .
>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "TVorNotTV" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/619A5124-C3E6-4153-BFEC-37597042DD98%40ellwanger.tv
> 
> .
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJ_uKi_25%3Do3kZDJAXe8sjus_G6wZ%3DMNj_AhmRn0S9BbBTs_Sw%40mail.gmail.com.


Re: [TV orNotTV] Siwa Replaces Lythgoe on 'Dance' Panel

2024-01-28 Thread Jim Ellwanger
"Trans"? As far as I can tell, JoJo Siwa is still using she/her pronouns. She 
announced a couple years ago that the proper label for her sexuality is 
"pansexual," but that's something different than being trans.

> On Jan 28, 2024, at 7:17 AM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
> 
> JoJo Siwa, the trans Nickelodeon star and singer, will be replacing "So You 
> Think You Can Dance" creator Nigel Lythgoe on the Fox reality comp's panel 
> this season after accusations by Paula Abdul regarding alleged sexual 
> improprieties--oh goody, Gutfeld now can say tasteless things about her and 
> preface them with that old "Fox News is not Fox Broadcasting" crap:
> 
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/jojo-siwa-so-you-think-you-can-dance-nigel-lythgoe-1235808518/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "TVorNotTV" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/7ffce0ca-c47c-49c7-afa6-cc2950ce1000n%40googlegroups.com
>  
> .

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/619A5124-C3E6-4153-BFEC-37597042DD98%40ellwanger.tv.


Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Masters of the Air

2024-01-28 Thread Kevin M.
Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 1:44 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I enjoyed it enough to continue, but (as the WaPo review noted) there's a
> huge problem when half of the shots are white guys wearing masks in
> identical uniforms flying identical planes: "Which one is that?" "Who just
> got shot at?"
>

I couldn’t help thinking of “Black Sheep Squadron”, and how despite using
stock footage of pilots in identical Corsairs, I could always tell who was
who.

I once heard the late Charles Nelson Reilly talk about how today’s
generation of actors all sound the same and look the same, and he contended
the reason was they didn’t start out in the theater, where they were able
to find their own voice. Not sure how true that is, but this series does
seem very homogeneous if not bland.



> In addition, Barry Keoghan (who's a good actor) gives audiences possibly
> the worst "New York" accent in the history of Brits and the Irish playing
> Americans. Guess the producers couldn't find enough American actors since
> there are just so darn few of them. (And, yes, Austin Butler's vocal coach
> should seek a new line of employment.)
>
> --Dave Sikula
>
> On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 9:24:56 PM UTC-8 Kevin M. wrote:
>
>> Let’s tell a WWII drama where all the guys dress alike, then give the two
>> lead characters the same names. That won’t be pointlessly confusing at all.
>>
>> What is Tom Hanks putting in his coffee?
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "TVorNotTV" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/a7506df0-effe-4719-a2cc-0dba3d8bdb59n%40googlegroups.com
> 
> .
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4Dd46V2X_EB_CHY%2BFVdZJFjL7ponp_TxFp8eXkcY4UrTQ%40mail.gmail.com.


[TV orNotTV] Siwa Replaces Lythgoe on 'Dance' Panel

2024-01-28 Thread Mark Jeffries
JoJo Siwa, the trans Nickelodeon star and singer, will be replacing "So You 
Think You Can Dance" creator Nigel Lythgoe on the Fox reality comp's panel 
this season after accusations by Paula Abdul regarding alleged sexual 
improprieties--oh goody, Gutfeld now can say tasteless things about her and 
preface them with that old "Fox News is not Fox Broadcasting" crap:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/jojo-siwa-so-you-think-you-can-dance-nigel-lythgoe-1235808518/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/7ffce0ca-c47c-49c7-afa6-cc2950ce1000n%40googlegroups.com.


Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Masters of the Air

2024-01-28 Thread PGage
The Elvis voice definitely is a distraction, not as much as his bad acting,
but still distracting.

On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 at 1:44 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV  wrote:

> …In addition, Barry Keoghan (who's a good actor) gives audiences possibly
> the worst "New York" accent in the history of Brits and the Irish playing
> Americans. Guess the producers couldn't find enough American actors since
> there are just so darn few of them. (And, yes, Austin Butler's vocal coach
> should seek a new line of employment.)
>
> --Dave Sikula
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkY%2B0rjrz0doLvwOe6_rhYCovMp2xw%3DYFxtQx33xtnEyAaQ%40mail.gmail.com.


[TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Masters of the Air

2024-01-28 Thread 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV
I enjoyed it enough to continue, but (as the WaPo review noted) there's a 
huge problem when half of the shots are white guys wearing masks in 
identical uniforms flying identical planes: "Which one is that?" "Who just 
got shot at?" 

In addition, Barry Keoghan (who's a good actor) gives audiences possibly 
the worst "New York" accent in the history of Brits and the Irish playing 
Americans. Guess the producers couldn't find enough American actors since 
there are just so darn few of them. (And, yes, Austin Butler's vocal coach 
should seek a new line of employment.)

--Dave Sikula

On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 9:24:56 PM UTC-8 Kevin M. wrote:

> Let’s tell a WWII drama where all the guys dress alike, then give the two 
> lead characters the same names. That won’t be pointlessly confusing at all. 
>
> What is Tom Hanks putting in his coffee? 
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/a7506df0-effe-4719-a2cc-0dba3d8bdb59n%40googlegroups.com.