Re: [TV orNotTV] So long, Gary Brooker

[Bill Partsch]

“Conquistador” with the Edmonton Symphony is easily one of the top five melds 
of rock band and orchestra ever, maybe even the top one, and this is coming 
from an unapologetic fan of the Electric Light Orchestra. It makes the turgid, 
studio version from their debut album sound like a heap of guano.
—Bill

> On Feb 26, 2022, at 9:48 AM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> "...In Concert with the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra" must not have been one 
> of them... B
> 
> Tom Wolper, to moi, Feb 25th:
> In my early days listening to Spotify I would look for bands who had a single 
> I knew growing up and I would listen to a couple of their albums. I wasted my 
> time listening to about 3 Procol Harum albums just to find out they never did 
> anything else that was in the ballpark of Whiter Shade of Pale.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] ESPN’s Adam Schefter crosses a journalistic line

[Bill Partsch]

When you send entire stories to sources, you get no greater benefit than from 
reading aloud/emailing/texting the relevant portions to them, but they get the 
benefit of seeing what might be inside information they hadn’t known before and 
then massaging their responses accordingly, i.e., covering their own asses. You 
would then ethically be compelled to provide the same consideration to *all* 
the sources in the story, at which point you’ve surrendered all journalistic 
integrity. 

Even giving the journalist benefit of the doubt, sending an entire story to a 
source is just lazy. 

> On Oct 14, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Doug Fields  wrote:
> 
> 
> Maybe it’s just my lack of formal journalism training, but I fail to see what 
> all the fuss is about.  Are people confusing the fact that Bruce Allen was a 
> source for Schefter’s story, and misconstruing him as the *subject* of the 
> story?  I see nothing wrong with consulting with somebody you used as a 
> source and reconfirming that you’re quoting him accurately and making sure 
> you’re correctly reporting some complicated aspect of the story from his 
> perspective.  Let him see the complete story?  Sure, why not?…you wouldn’t be 
> *required* to use his follow-up input…it’s just a courtesy call, to make sure 
> you’ve got your story straight.
>  
> And even if he had been the subject, just about every big journalism movie 
> has that scene where the reporter calls the Senator whose life is about to 
> become front-page news, asking him if he has any comment on the story that’s 
> “gonna hit the papers tomorrow morning.”  Again, unless there’s some sort of 
> editorial approval deal in place, I still wouldn’t see an ethical problem 
> with giving him an advance copy of the story just so you can append the usual 
> “No comment” to the end of it.
>  
> Doug Fields
> Tampa, FL
>  
>  
> From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Subject: [TV orNotTV] ESPN’s Adam Schefter crosses a journalistic line
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> Take a look at this story from the Poynter Institute 
> https://www.poynter.org/commentary/2021/espns-adam-schefter-crosses-a-journalistic-line/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Schmigadoon!

[Bill Partsch]

Good point. Both my kids know his “Silent E is a Ninja” from Electric Company 
redux. But my daughter is pretty hardcore Hamilton the past year and change. 

> On Sep 6, 2021, at 11:08 PM, M-D November  wrote:
> 
> …unless you’re my kids, who knew him from his contributions to Sesame Street 
> long before we let them watch “Hamilton” or “Mary Poppins Returns”.
> 
>> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 9:54:48 AM UTC-4 billp...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
 On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Jon Delfin  wrote:
 
 On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 12:43 AM M-D November  wrote:
 [snip] Similarly, I’d argue that Krakowski is a legit Broadway star, but 
 better known for her TV work.
>>> point of order: _all_ Broadway stars are better known for their TV work
>> 
>> …except Lin-Manuel Miranda. 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Schmigadoon!

[Bill Partsch]

> On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:20 PM, Jon Delfin  wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 12:43 AM M-D November  wrote:
>> [snip] Similarly, I’d argue that Krakowski is a legit Broadway star, but 
>> better known for her TV work.
> point of order: _all_ Broadway stars are better known for their TV work
…except Lin-Manuel Miranda. 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Schmigadoon!

[Bill Partsch]

I should’ve added (or started with), “You’re probably right,” because I pointed 
out 3 cast members among, what, dozens? 

And for the record, I bailed at some point during the second episode, although 
a lot of that is being severely time constrained. I thought it was OK. 

> On Sep 5, 2021, at 12:43 AM, M-D November  wrote:
> 
> Ariana Dubose (she played the schoolteacher, and will be Anita in 
> Speilberg’s “West Side Story”).
> 
> I’m not denying that Cumming and Chenowith aren’t bankable Broadway names, 
> that’s hardly all they’re known for. Similarly, I’d argue that Krakowski is a 
> legit Broadway star, but better known for her TV work. Same with Aaron Tveit. 
> But look beyond to the ensemble, and my guess is that they’re mostly local 
> talent. 
> 
>> On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 9:16:04 PM UTC-4 billp...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I’ve been traveling backward through the archive of Conan O’Brien Needs A 
>> Friend, and I just listened to the Kristen Chenoweth episode. In it she 
>> mentions she’s Zooming in from a hotel in Vancouver, where her next-door 
>> neighbor is Alan Cumming. Those are recognizable Broadway names. Also in the 
>> cast is the woman who originally played The Bullet in “Hamilton,” although I 
>> admittedly cannot tell you her name without looking it up.
>> 
 On Sep 3, 2021, at 12:17 PM, M-D November  wrote:
 
>>> Kevin - I respect your opinion but humbly disagree. As a fan of musicals 
>>> (and meta commentary) I thought Schmigadoon! worked really well, although 
>>> it could have used another episode or two, as the resolution to the B-plots 
>>> felt really rushed.  There were lots of little details outside of the song 
>>> pastiches that, as a theater nerd, I really appreciated - like the fact 
>>> that songs were always performed (more or less) to camera, as if they were 
>>> being performed on stage, and that the exterior sets in the 'town square' 
>>> were very obviously flat fronts, as you'd expect from a stage set, and you 
>>> only got detail when you entered a space. 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Certain talents were criminally underused (Martin Short, Jane Krakowski), 
>>> while others I could have done with a recasting (Cecily Strong, who I think 
>>> got the role because Lorne was the EP). For once Fred Armisen didn't make 
>>> me want to put my fist through the TV.
>>> 
>>> Strangely enough, I think I saw that Schmigadoon! was shot in Vancouver, 
>>> which would explain why, beyond the leads, there weren't more recognizable 
>>> Broadway names.
> On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 11:07:57 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
> The two leads are almost unwatchable, but the series is somehow fun to 
> watch anyway? The premise is basically a retread of Pleasantville set to 
> music. I can’t help but feel the show was conceived to provide paychecks 
> to out of work Broadway actors. 
> 
> On Apple TV + (or whatever it is called)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Schmigadoon!

[Bill Partsch]

I’ve been traveling backward through the archive of Conan O’Brien Needs A 
Friend, and I just listened to the Kristen Chenoweth episode. In it she 
mentions she’s Zooming in from a hotel in Vancouver, where her next-door 
neighbor is Alan Cumming. Those are recognizable Broadway names. Also in the 
cast is the woman who originally played The Bullet in “Hamilton,” although I 
admittedly cannot tell you her name without looking it up.

> On Sep 3, 2021, at 12:17 PM, M-D November  wrote:
> 
> Kevin - I respect your opinion but humbly disagree. As a fan of musicals 
> (and meta commentary) I thought Schmigadoon! worked really well, although it 
> could have used another episode or two, as the resolution to the B-plots felt 
> really rushed.  There were lots of little details outside of the song 
> pastiches that, as a theater nerd, I really appreciated - like the fact that 
> songs were always performed (more or less) to camera, as if they were being 
> performed on stage, and that the exterior sets in the 'town square' were very 
> obviously flat fronts, as you'd expect from a stage set, and you only got 
> detail when you entered a space. 
> 
> Certain talents were criminally underused (Martin Short, Jane Krakowski), 
> while others I could have done with a recasting (Cecily Strong, who I think 
> got the role because Lorne was the EP). For once Fred Armisen didn't make me 
> want to put my fist through the TV.
> 
> Strangely enough, I think I saw that Schmigadoon! was shot in Vancouver, 
> which would explain why, beyond the leads, there weren't more recognizable 
> Broadway names.
>> On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 11:07:57 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>> The two leads are almost unwatchable, but the series is somehow fun to watch 
>> anyway? The premise is basically a retread of Pleasantville set to music. I 
>> can’t help but feel the show was conceived to provide paychecks to out of 
>> work Broadway actors. 
>> 
>> On Apple TV + (or whatever it is called)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Stanley Cup question

[Bill Partsch]

I'm a St. Louis Blues fan, and it seems to me the announcers for the Blues-Wild 
series might be the Wild's regular TV team. They're doing a great job. I don't 
sense they're favoring Minnesota, but they seem to have a more inside 
perspective on the Wild, and they sound like they work together all the time. 

> On Apr 20, 2017, at 2:19 PM, daniel anderson  
> wrote:
> 
> I did notice that NBC is having their CSN production people produce the 
> games, but using NBC's talent in the booth, on site.
> 
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 12:58:26 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>> NBC is doing their own production/announcers on most series, but last night, 
>> when i was watching the Flames/Ducks game, it was the CBC feed. Is that 
>> common during the playoffs?
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Any words on the Cubs' win?

[Bill Partsch]

When the English Premier League decided to implement a "review" system to 
ensure correct goal/no-goal calls, it solicited bids with one requirement being 
that the system had to be capable of communicating the correct ruling to an 
official's wristwatch (or similar device) within one second. Surely, they could 
build sensors into balls, gloves, bases, shoes, base lines, etc. to make 
confirming or overturning outs (esp. at first and force-outs), foul balls and 
home runs take a mere second or two, right? They can still leave it up to 
managers to challenge before the system delivers its verdict.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Any words on the Cubs' win?

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> On Nov 1, 2016, at 6:31 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:
> 
> But then I tend to bail by about the third innings because, well, it's very 
> late...

Innings. Let's hear it for cricket, baby! Wherein pitchers are bowlers, batters 
are batsmen, games are matches, foul territory is non-existent, and the wall is 
about four inches high--except four inches is ten centimeters.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Any words on the Cubs' win?

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> On Nov 2, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Joe Hass  wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Tom Wolper  wrote:
>> It's well known that each umpire has his own strike zone and ball/strike 
>> calls can be very subjective. Some people call for an electronic strike zone 
>> so calls can be consistent and accurate while others want to preserve the 
>> human aspect of the game. As a result the PitchTrax could show that a called 
>> strike was clearly out of the strike zone, or vice versa, and the TV 
>> announcer won't call attention to it. If he says anything, it will be that 
>> the pitcher has to learn this ump's strike zone.
> 
> This is one of my biggest gripes of national baseball broadcasters: no one 
> will outright say that an umpire has botched a strike/ball call.
[snip]
> Admit they kicked a few pitches.

>From recent experience with Cardinals broadcasts, it would appear local 
>announcers have no such compunction, especially on the radio. Lead Cards' 
>announcer John Rooney has gotten to the point where he's blasé about it much 
>of the time. "Belt-high pitch right over the heart of the plate, called a 
>ball," is a typical Rooney call--not an after-the-fact commentary, but the 
>actual call--delivered in the same tone used for a routine grounder to short 
>ending a three-up, three-down inning. I'm pretty sure his partners, Mike 
>Shannon at home and Rick Horton on the road, are similarly inclined to kvetch 
>about umpire malfeasance. Dan MacLaughlin on TV will point it out, too, but 
>less demonstratively, unless an umpire is having a Larry Vanover kind of 
>night. 

(Rooney is even prone to lambasting the NY replay crew if he disagrees with a 
ruling. He also loves to point out when a brand new ball is fouled onto the 
field, where it must be retrieved by a ball boy, "That ball is on its way to 
the authenticator. That's a GAME -USED BALL!")

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Any words on the Cubs' win?

[Bill Partsch]

I remember Buck doing a handful of Cardinals games per season on TV in the 
years when his national star was rising, probably when Summerall/Madden were 
still at it. He was really funny (witty, not goofy,) and genuinely enjoyable. 
He seems to have left most, if not all, of that charm back at Fox Sports 
Midwest. I'd love to see him cash out of the big gig at Fox and spend the 
twilight of his career in his dad's shoes as the radio voice of the Cards. 
Don't expect it, but I think he'd be better off without the yoke of neutrality 
that he seems to struggle with. 

> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Joe Hass  wrote:
> 
> 4. I'm trying my best to get into Joe Buck on baseball, but I was 
> underwhelmed with his work. He seems to force excitement, as if he's 
> overcompensating for all those complains about him not being excited enough. 
> John Smoltz is a decent enough analyst (and after so many years of Tim 
> McCarver, I'd take my three year old working the game).

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Re: [TV orNotTV] This week's J! test

[Bill Partsch]

Got 38/50. Knew at least two of the misses literally the instant the next 
question came up. 

> On Oct 7, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Jay Lewis  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/7/2016 12:49 AM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV wrote:
>> Did anyone else take the plunge this week?  I think I did well enough make 
>> the audition, but I still have to be randomly selected.
> 
> I tried. I think I got a score in the 30s.
> 
> Blanked on "All About That Bass" (I took the Tuesday test & it literally just 
> came to me now) and  came up with prima donna 2 seconds after the answer 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Jeopardy! October Test

[Bill Partsch]

I'm currently doing everything in iOS. My laptop bit the big one, and its 
replacement is currently wrapping up its coast-to-coast journey, seemingly via 
FedEx's AroundTheHorn service. I should have access to more comprehensive email 
governance presently. 

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 3:39 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is supposed to be a reminder e-mail sent out in advance of the October 
> test dates.  Since you didn't receive a confirmation email I'd make sure they 
> have your correct information (and check that spam filter again, just in 
> case).
> 
> David

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Jeopardy! October Test

[Bill Partsch]

I do, I did, and I am. Odd I didn't get an email, though. 

Follow up: I've yet to select a test date, as I have not noticed where I am 
supposed to do so. Did I overlook something? If you nice people are already set 
date-wise, I'll email the gods of Jeopardy! 

Thanks for all the helpful replies. 
--Bill
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 7:28 AM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
> <tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> If you have a MyJeopardy! profile (I don't know if it's required for 
> registration), you can check your test registration status.  From your 
> dashboard, click on the button that says online tests.  A check under the 
> sign-up status would mean you are successfully registered for that test.  If 
> there isn't a check mark for the Fall 2017 test or that test isn't even 
> listed, I'd try the registration process again.
> David
> 
> From: Bill Partsch <billpart...@gmail.com>
> To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 9:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Jeopardy! October Test
> 
> I registered for the test last night but have yet to receive a confirmation. 
> Is that typical in others' experiences? Thanks. 
> 
> --Bill
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Jeopardy! October Test

[Bill Partsch]

I registered for the test last night but have yet to receive a confirmation. Is 
that typical in others' experiences? Thanks. 

--Bill

> On Sep 13, 2016, at 2:43 PM, 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> I might mention here that my wife will be on the show on October 12th. I was 
> trying to find out how many married couples have been on the show, but no 
> luck.
> 
> --Dave Sikula
> 
>> On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 2:12:13 PM UTC-7, David Bruggeman wrote:
>> Many of you probably received a similar email, so feel free to skip the rest 
>> of this.
>> 
>> I took the test in January, was not called for an audition, and was still 
>> able to register for the October test.
>> 
>> According to the current FAQ, this is OK.  My prior understanding (perhaps 
>> mistaken) was that this wasn't OK.
>> 
>> https://www.jeopardy.com/be-a-contestant/contestant-faqs
>> 
>> Regardless, good luck to everyone.
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Forwarded Message -
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>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 3:32 PM
>> Subject: This Could Be Your Year!
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Jeopardy! October Test

[Bill Partsch]

Hey, thanks for the heads up. 

I was once in the pool, also. Pretty sure I stiffed the audition. My dentist 
went through the audition process twice. First time, stiffed. Then he wised up, 
and second time around, he was all bubbly and peppy. Got on the show. Came in 
second. 

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 11:37 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nor have I received the call, and I'm at least two years past my last 
> audition.  For some reason, I had it stuck in my head that I couldn't take 
> the test more than once in a 12 month period, whether or not I was in the 
> pool.
> As for the test game, I have no idea what's the right thing to do aside from 
> trying to be up or otherwise boost my attitude for TV.   Are they still 
> videotaping the games and interviews?
> 
> From: M-D November 
> To: TVorNotTV  
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:59 PM
> Subject: [TV orNotTV] Jeopardy! October Test
> 
> I was called in for an in-person audition last October; they made it very 
> clear to everyone in the room that we would be held in the contestant pool 
> for 18 months (from the audition, not from the date of the test), and that we 
> should NOT take the online test again the next time it becomes available.  If 
> you're not called for an audition, you can take the online test as many times 
> as you like.
> 
> FWIW, I did well on the written test and (I think) the interview, but I kinda 
> crapped the bed during my mini test game.  It didn't help that I was called 
> up dead last, only had one competitor (instead of the typical two), and my 
> one opponent was a familiar face to the casting panel by virtue of his wife 
> being a former multi-time champ (didn't catch the name, but I think she 
> played in a TOC). Needless to say, I have not gotten the call to pack my bags 
> and head for Culver City.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Persona Non Greta

[Bill Partsch]

(Subject line of this thread is akin to what Gene Rayburn characterized as "the 
definitive answer" on Match Game. Top shelf, man. Top shelf.)

> On Sep 6, 2016, at 11:01 AM, Ron Casalotti  wrote:
> 
> Greta Van Susteren out as Fox News host
> "a person close to the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity 
> described it as a financial disagreement."
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/tv/greta-van-susteren-out-as-fox-news-host/2016/09/06/2909a7b2-743f-11e6-9781-49e591781754_story.html
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 9/11/01 what did you watch?

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I watched New York local coverage (interspersed with national coverage) at my 
friend's apartment in Manhattan. Then, as now, I lived in New Jersey. My two 
priorities when I got to my friend's place were to let my girlfriend know I was 
alright and figure out a way back to NJ. I accomplished the former thanks to 
AOL instant messaging. (I didn't have a cell phone yet, and it wouldn't have 
worked if I had.) As four of us watched coverage, I was waiting for both the 
subway and the George Washington Bridge to be re-opened. News of such came at 
around 2-3 pm, and I took the A train (for free) to the bridge, which had 
re-closed in the interim. It re-opened at about 8 pm, and I walked across with 
hundreds of others, went to a pay phone in Fort Lee and called my girlfriend 
who picked me up, whereupon we both burst into tears. 

> On Aug 17, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
> 
> 
> daniel anderson:
>> 
>> I got tried of all the news coverage on 9/11/01 that i watched some other 
>> shows. My mom actually tuned out the news coverage to watch Soapnet, which 
>> had reruns of  "Sisters" and "Knots Landing"  instead. i did that too, but 
>> watched the game shows on Game Show Network too. did anyone of you do that 
>> on 9/11/01 find something else to watch?
> 
> It's been so long I can hardly remember anymore... my greater memories are 
> those of my youngest brother, a delivery driver at the time who left a NJ 
> venue he had just served, only to glance over to Manhattan to see the towers 
> collapsing.  Any remembrance next month on the 15th anny, I fear, will be 
> overshadowed by the campaign craziness.
> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Hardware questions

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One thing you may need to consider when buying an antenna is the frequency of 
your local stations' digital channels. In New York, I believe channels 7 and 13 
actually got high-VHF slots, meaning a strictly UHF antenna would miss them. 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL and Ben Jerrys team up...

[Bill Partsch]

Dog vomit and monkey pus. 

 On Jun 20, 2014, at 1:02 AM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tv wrote:
 
 
 On Jun 19, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 ... for two flavors based on SNL skits I've never heard of. Apparently they 
 will release flavors based on classic SNL sketches soon. Looking forward to 
 eating me some Landshark Lemon or Quarry: The Ice Cream Made Of Stone.
 
 Lazy Sunday was a pre-taped music video, not really a sketch as the 
 article describes it. I find it pretty funny.
 https://screen.yahoo.com/snl-digital-short-lazy-sunday-00173.html
 
 But the ice cream named for it should really involve Red Vines and Mr. Pibb 
 somehow.
 
 As for the other one... that particular flavor needs to have instructions 
 printed on the side, take 1 bite, mug to the camera, repeat every few weeks 
 for 5 years.
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Giving Tim McCarver His Due

[Bill Partsch]

Refreshing to read others acknowledge the ritual singing of an Irving Berlin 
has long since passed its sell-by date. Ideally, MLB will give it till season's 
end and then quietly put the kibosh on it. Otherwise, if we're going to be 
subjected to random pop songs, how about some good ones? I nominate the New 
Pornographers' Sing Me Spanish Techno, mid-6th inning. 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NO TV: Hurricane Info

[Bill Partsch]

I got my wires crossed there. Right city, wrong company. Atypical of me to 
blame the victim.

On Aug 27, 2011, at 7:50 PM, Scott Fouru pedeg...@gmail.com wrote:

 As usual, Melissa knows a lot. The May Company was a St Louis
 institution, until they were purchased by Federated Department Stores
 [FDS], of Cincinnati. After their assimilation of all the upper-mid-
 market department store retailing in the US was complete, they changed
 their corporate name to reflect the best known name of all their
 divisions and became simply Macy's Inc [NYSE: M].
 
 Before that change, they renamed all the acquired stores which were
 not closed due to market overlap or antitrust concerns to Macy's and
 now only operate two store brands: Macy's and Bloomingdale's.
 
 Further irrelevant sidebar: Macy's is, AFAIK, only one of two major US
 retailers which still owns its own credit card portfolio.
 
 
 
 __
 On Aug 27, 5:17 pm, Melissa P takingupspace...@gmail.com wrote:
 St. Louis, I thought.  And, I thought Macy's bought May.  But what do I
 know.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvornottv@googlegroups.com] On
 
 Behalf Of Bill Partsch
 Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 6:00 PM
 To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] NO TV: Hurricane Info
 
 Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the May Co., owner of Macy's and eraser
 of Marshall Field, Famous Barr, Stern's and a host of other local retail
 stalwarts, headquartered in Cincinnati?
 
 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] NO TV: Hurricane Info

[Bill Partsch]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the May Co., owner of Macy's and eraser of 
Marshall Field, Famous Barr, Stern's and a host of other local retail 
stalwarts, headquartered in Cincinnati?


On Aug 27, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Even more irrelevant sidebar: Until us Chicago folks finally get our
 sweet revenge for you New York weasels taking away the Marshall
 Field's brand by slapping a bunch of Walgreens on your street corners.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] World Series of Poker

[Bill Partsch]

My guess is, Days 1 and 2 are so massive that live broadcasts would be silly 
and/or impossible to follow--in past WSOP, it has taken as many as four days to 
finish Day 1. Also, the level of play would be like tuning into the World 
Series of Baseball to watch a bunch of high schoolers (if that).

What I saw yesterday was interesting enough, but seeing every hand gives 
viewers a little better sense of how the  majority of hands in no-limit hold 
'em tournaments end before the flop. 

The most intriguing thing I saw was Daniel Negreanu (much beloved pro with 
uncanny ability to read his opponents) folding a small pair when his opponent 
raised big. He had to determine whether the bet indicated a bluff or a monster 
hand. He guessed monster, he was right (opponent had three of a kind, aka a set 
or trips), and because of the new broadcast setup, Negreanu was able to find 
out a mere half hour later that his read was correct and that his agonizing 
fold saved his tournament life. I can see where non-players might find all of 
this monumentally tedious, but it's a great example of how poker really is a 
game of skill. (Search for Negreanu on YouTube to see him look opponents in the 
face and announce their exact cards without having seen them. He's like The 
Mentalist, but for real, albeit limited to a specific environment.)

--Bill

Sent from my iPhone. (Man, that thing's really amazing.)

On Jul 15, 2011, at 1:20 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought I had set a season pass for the WSP, but the first program that was 
 recorded was yesterday, titled Day 3, Part 2. There are some changes in the 
 coverage this year - I suppose to some extent a reflection of the troubles 
 poker has been experiencing lately.
 
 First, they are televising the Main Event live (but on the Deuce). Usually I 
 prefer live, but in the case of poker, it means they can not show the hole 
 cards while they are playing (most TV poker uses a mix of commentary recorded 
 as play unfolds, mixed with commentary recorded later - and it is only this 
 latter that is done with knowledge of the hole cards). State law prohibits 
 transmission of the hole cards while the cards are in play. After each hand 
 is over they are revealing the hole cards. This is interesting once in a 
 while (to guess along with the players) but it is much more interesting to 
 watch on a steady basis when the hole cards are visible. Apparently, the 
 players are also a little worried about having their hole cards displayed in 
 almost real time to their opponents (the players can't communicate with any 
 associates monitoring the action on tv for 30 minutes after the play). I 
 guess to hedge on this, ESPN moves between two different tables, so only some 
 of the play of each player is revealed. It also means that, unlike in recent 
 years, we are not getting look-ins at players at other tables. So even 
 though there are thousands of players in the tournament, we only see around 
 20 of them.
 
 A little looking reveals that ESPN3 is streaming Part 1 each day, then both 
 ESPN3 and ESPN2 show Parts 2 and 3. I can't tell if I somehow missed Day 1 
 and Day 2, or if they did not televise those days at all. In the coverage I 
 have seen they have not discussed poker's problems so far, and have not 
 really given much information even about ESPN's coverage plans. Apparently 
 they are still going to stop the tournament when they get to the final 9 and 
 hold the final table in November - though this seems odd, since it seemed 
 that they did that so they could string out 2 hours of taped and produced WSP 
 Main Event coverage every week from August to November to lead up to it. This 
 makes me think that maybe they are still going to have their regular recorded 
 coverage, in addition to this live coverage? If I knew they were going to do 
 that for sure I might skip the rest of the live coverage and wait for the 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Kilby Coming to Fox OOs

[Bill Partsch]

Ignore whom?

On May 5, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Jon Delfin wrote:

 On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:23 PM, David Lynch djly...@gmail.com wrote:
 Given that Scottish Conan Guy was Craig 2.0 around here for a while, this
 dictates that we go back to calling Kilby Craig 1.0.
 
 Can't we just ignore him? Please?
 
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