[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-10-07 Thread Zaudio
Sure, I'll justify this mroe... One of our apps receives updates via the Streaming API and the various REST api methods (mentions, user timelines, friends/home timelines). We collect data as JSON as it's to date been faster and mor compact than alternatives... we can also then go on to use this

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-10-07 Thread Marco Kaiser
Well, you're not making use of JSON as JSON, and instead use brute-force methods to extract parts of it... I think it's a bit unfair to request that change to be made, as it would complicate things for everyone doing real JSON-to-OO mapping. Just my 2c. And no, retweet_status is perfectly valid -

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-10-07 Thread Zaudio
We use JSON thoughout... as JSON and also parsing to db fields... I love that JSON converts directly to OO but then again what works for one app, may hinder others... no ideal solution. I suspect that things will stay as they are anyway... so your our app lose on this one and will just have

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-10-06 Thread Zaudio
Another significant thought... could you 'please' consider changing the name of the user node INSIDE the retweeted_status node to say retweeted_user ? Thius will make JSON parsing way simpler... especially if the goal is to extract the retweeted_status when present; or do things like quickly

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-10-06 Thread Marco Kaiser
No, please don't change that to retweeted_user ... the data structure included as the retweeted status is a status, and that data structure has a user property. That's a very clear object model, and should map very well to JSON, as it's nested, not at the same level as the main user the retweet is

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-10-04 Thread Zaudio
Hey John, Thanks for that... can you put an earliest date on 'very soon' please - just so I know how long we've got? Thanks Simon (Zaudio) On Oct 3, 8:15 pm, John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com wrote: There are plans to filter retweets from various resource, see the documentation. However, it

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-10-03 Thread Zaudio
This sounds a lot more sensible... Importantly, where can we expect this new payload to be returned... any of the following methods as well? REST API statuses/mentions statuses/user Streaming API/Shadow I need to know in advance of such an addition to any of these, as otherwise the parser on

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-10-02 Thread Coderanger
I am a bit confused as to how we can use these new APIs. If I use the new retreet API in my app then no-one will see it if they are using any app that isnt using the new home_timeline (perhaps no- one) ... so how can it ever be used unless everyone (I mean client apps and sites) uses the new

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-10-02 Thread Rich
All apps will eventually have to use home_timeline as the platform guys have said they will remove the old timeline in a matter of months after the retweet api launches On Oct 2, 8:08 am, Coderanger d...@coderanger.com wrote: I am a bit confused as to how we can use these new APIs. If I use

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-10-02 Thread Coderanger
So you have to wait until then before you can even support the retweet posting?

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-10-02 Thread Rich
Not at all, just that retweets won't show in any app using the new re- tweet API. However I expect many apps that care about their users will switch because retweets from the biggest source i.e. web will be using it! On Oct 2, 11:45 am, Coderanger d...@coderanger.com wrote: So you have to wait

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-10-01 Thread Rich
A final question, will home_timeline also follow this same format, as the docs still have the old format. On Oct 1, 6:46 am, Rich rhyl...@gmail.com wrote: One question though I notice you're adding the RT @user at the beginning, is this intentional or can we add it ourselves (as some people

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-10-01 Thread Marco Kaiser
Hi, first of all, let me say that I think this change to the relation between the retweet and the retweeted status makes much sense - it feels much more natural to see it as user A retweets user B instead of user B retweeted by user A, especially if you don't follow B. A couple of questions

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-09-30 Thread Amitab
Great, I think this is much better and provides a better way of identify which tweet is a retweet and which is not. /Amitab Follow Twalle @mytwaller On Sep 30, 4:08 pm, Marcel Molina mar...@twitter.com wrote: We've updated the retweet payload to look a lot more like a regular tweet's

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-09-30 Thread Brian Smith
Marcel Molina wrote: The above payloads don't contain a retweet_count element yet and they probably will. Other than that we don't suspect any more major changes as we approach a full public launch. As always, though, we're open and solicitous of everyone's feedback. This is a great

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-09-30 Thread Rich
I don't like this approach purely based on the fact it's no longer backwards compatible, it's going to break a lot of clients who aren't looking for a retweet_status tag. On Oct 1, 2:57 am, Brian Smith br...@briansmith.org wrote: Marcel Molina wrote: The above payloads don't contain a

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-09-30 Thread Rich
Sorry ignore me, lack of sleep and I missed the text tag outside the retweet_status one! On Oct 1, 2:57 am, Brian Smith br...@briansmith.org wrote: Marcel Molina wrote: The above payloads don't contain a retweet_count element yet and they probably will. Other than that we don't suspect any

[twitter-dev] Re: Updates to the retweet API payload

2009-09-30 Thread Rich
One question though I notice you're adding the RT @user at the beginning, is this intentional or can we add it ourselves (as some people prefer the RT message (via @user) format) On Oct 1, 6:44 am, Rich rhyl...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry ignore me, lack of sleep and I missed the text tag outside