[twitter-dev] Re: API limit confusion
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 15:06, srikanth reddy srikanth.yara...@gmail.comwrote: @Abraham: Does it mean my consumer app (not Desktop client) cannot serve more than 150 authorized users/hour(if it is not white listed). It is hard to believe. If it is desktop client the 150 limit is understandable. Each user and each IP has 150 calls/hour. If five applications (desktop or web) are making calls on behalf of a single user or IP they count against the same 150. Rate limiting has no connection to applications. The blog post says This limit applies to your Twitter account rather than the applications which make the calls to the API i.e. you have 100 API calls per hour in total regardless of which Twitter applications you use - it is NOT 100 API calls per application As you said Also it used to be that user requests from a whitelisted IP would reflect on the users limit unless they had hit their rate limit at which point it would count against the IP. its probably first user and then IP. Yes. User then IP. POST request have their own limits yes i do not mean infinite calls but my consumer app should be able to get more than 20k request tokens Thanks for your time. Really helpful Srikanth On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.comwrote: In your first email you said When I check an oAuth'd user's rate limit, he also seems gets 2 API hits. so I'm not sure what you are seeing. Also it used to be that user requests from a whitelisted IP would reflect on the users limit unless they had hit their rate limit at which point it would count against the IP. I'm not sure if it still works this way though. Abraham On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 08:43, sjespers se...@webkitchen.be wrote: @Abraham: If that were true then calling rate_limit_status should give the same result... which it doesn't! On Jul 22, 3:26 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote: I recommend that you both read: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Rate-limiting Serge: If you have an IP that is white listed all applicable calls from that IP will count against the 2 limit. Srikanth: That blog post says that twitter.com has no limit. It says nothing about anybody else not having a limit. The 20k is for GET requests however POST request have their own limits. Abraham On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 03:07, srikanth reddy srikanth.yara...@gmail.comwrote: Hi I am also looking for this. The following post says there is no limit on calls from application http://tweetdeck.posterous.com/what-does-rate-limit-exceeded Rate limit is applicable on Get methods from ip/client. Can someone confirm if one can make unlimited calls (from an app) to get request token? What is this 2 limit? Is it for GET calls for authorized client/ip Regards Srikanth On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:24 PM, sjespers se...@webkitchen.be wrote: Hi there, I am a little bit confused by the API limits. The server for my application is whitelisted. So it's limit is 2 API hits. I use oAuth to authorize Twitter users. When I check an oAuth'd user's rate limit, he also seems gets 2 API hits. Is that true? Also, when I call the Twitter API using the user's oAuth credentials, which API limit gets that hit? The user's? Or the server's? Thanks, Serge -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist |http://web608.org Hacker |http://abrah.am|http://twitter.com/abraham Project |http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private. Sent from Madison, WI, United States -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham Project | http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private. Sent from Madison, WI, United States -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham Project | http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private. Sent from Madison, WI, United States
[twitter-dev] Re: Create Favourite API Not returning new status
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[twitter-dev] Re: API limit confusion
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 02:02, srikanth reddy srikanth.yara...@gmail.comwrote: The whole confusion is regarding this statement in http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Rate-limiting IP whitelisting takes precedence to account rate limits. *GET requests from a whitelisted IP address made on a user's behalf will be deducted from the whitelisted IP's limit, not the users*. Therefore, IP-based whitelisting is a best practice for applications that request many users' data If the above holds true my consumer web app could end up serving very few authenticated users. As you said it should be the other way. May be some one who has developed and encountered this problem with a webapp (with out being whitelisted) can confirm. I guess it is not the same as it used to be with how it does not effect user limits first. With 20k/h you can accomplish a lot. If you hit that limit that you should contact a...@twitter.com and talk with them about higher limits or more efficient methods to use. Abraham -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham Project | http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private. Sent from Madison, WI, United States
[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth necessary when I don't need to take over people's accounts?
On Jul 22, 6:55 pm, Grant Emsley grant.ems...@gmail.com wrote: It will improve the security of your account since it won't be sending username/password in plaintext anymore. Although I think the OAuth keys are also in plaintext? But thanks, I'll try to use it.
[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth necessary when I don't need to take over people's accounts?
Both OAuth and BasicAuth can be used over https. Abraham On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 02:45, Bjoern bjoer...@googlemail.com wrote: On Jul 22, 6:55 pm, Grant Emsley grant.ems...@gmail.com wrote: It will improve the security of your account since it won't be sending username/password in plaintext anymore. Although I think the OAuth keys are also in plaintext? But thanks, I'll try to use it. -- Abraham Williams | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham Project | http://fireeagle.labs.poseurtech.com This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private. Sent from Madison, WI, United States
[twitter-dev] Re: Detecting positive / negative / question
Based on the search keyword tude and what follows it: (, ) or ?, I made the same guess myself, but I did not want to assume anything. Interesting link. I used to do some of that to analyze posts on a forum in the early days of the internet (to weed out impostors), but it did not work well. On Jul 23, 12:42 am, Bjoern bjoer...@googlemail.com wrote: On Jul 22, 8:49 pm, Joseph northwest...@gmail.com wrote: That's what I meant. Short of doing a search, with tude[]=%3A) and store it in my cache (which will eat up a lot of API calls), do you have any hints on how to extract this out of the API? Isn't it just searching for the Strings :-(, :-) and ?? I don't think the attitude detection is more sophisticated than that at the moment? Otherwise, maybe have a look at this:http://danzarrella.com/tweetpsych.html Although don't put too much weight on it, I guess. But it's a fun approach. Björn
[twitter-dev] Re: API limit confusion
It's working like you want it to be. In other words, you have a web app running on a single server with a single IP. You make authenticated requests using each user's account. If your IP is whitelisted, the calls go towards your 20k limit, if it is not whitelisted, it goes against the current 150 limit for the respective accounts. That's what it means by IP whitelisting takes precedence to account rate limits. -- Hwee-Boon On Jul 23, 3:02 pm, srikanth reddy srikanth.yara...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.comwrote: Each user and each IP has 150 calls/hour. If five applications (desktop or web) are making calls on behalf of a single user or IP they count against the same 150. Rate limiting has no connection to applications. Agreed. i have no issues with desktop apps as each user owns one (in which case ip/user does not matter and am pretty happy with 150 limit). But i am trying to understand this ip limit for web apps The whole confusion is regarding this statement inhttp://apiwiki.twitter.com/Rate-limiting IP whitelisting takes precedence to account rate limits. *GET requests from a whitelisted IP address made on a user's behalf will be deducted from the whitelisted IP's limit, not the users*. Therefore, IP-based whitelisting is a best practice for applications that request many users' data If the above holds true my consumer web app could end up serving very few authenticated users. As you said it should be the other way. May be some one who has developed and encountered this problem with a webapp (with out being whitelisted) can confirm. Thanks Srikanth On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 15:06, srikanth reddy srikanth.yara...@gmail.comwrote: @Abraham: Does it mean my consumer app (not Desktop client) cannot serve more than 150 authorized users/hour(if it is not white listed). It is hard to believe. If it is desktop client the 150 limit is understandable. Each user and each IP has 150 calls/hour. If five applications (desktop or web) are making calls on behalf of a single user or IP they count against the same 150. Rate limiting has no connection to applications. The blog post says This limit applies to your Twitter account rather than the applications which make the calls to the API i.e. you have 100 API calls per hour in total regardless of which Twitter applications you use - it is NOT 100 API calls per application As you said Also it used to be that user requests from a whitelisted IP would reflect on the users limit unless they had hit their rate limit at which point it would count against the IP. its probably first user and then IP. Yes. User then IP. POST request have their own limits yes i do not mean infinite calls but my consumer app should be able to get more than 20k request tokens Thanks for your time. Really helpful Srikanth On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.comwrote: In your first email you said When I check an oAuth'd user's rate limit, he also seems gets 2 API hits. so I'm not sure what you are seeing. Also it used to be that user requests from a whitelisted IP would reflect on the users limit unless they had hit their rate limit at which point it would count against the IP. I'm not sure if it still works this way though. Abraham On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 08:43, sjespers se...@webkitchen.be wrote: @Abraham: If that were true then calling rate_limit_status should give the same result... which it doesn't! On Jul 22, 3:26 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote: I recommend that you both read: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Rate-limiting Serge: If you have an IP that is white listed all applicable calls from that IP will count against the 2 limit. Srikanth: That blog post says that twitter.com has no limit. It says nothing about anybody else not having a limit. The 20k is for GET requests however POST request have their own limits. Abraham On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 03:07, srikanth reddy srikanth.yara...@gmail.comwrote: Hi I am also looking for this. The following post says there is no limit on calls from application http://tweetdeck.posterous.com/what-does-rate-limit-exceeded Rate limit is applicable on Get methods from ip/client. Can someone confirm if one can make unlimited calls (from an app) to get request token? What is this 2 limit? Is it for GET calls for authorized client/ip Regards Srikanth On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:24 PM, sjespers se...@webkitchen.be wrote: Hi there, I am a little bit confused by the API limits. The server for my application is whitelisted. So it's limit is 2 API hits. I use oAuth to authorize Twitter users. When I check an oAuth'd user's rate limit, he also seems gets 2 API hits. Is that true? Also, when I call the
[twitter-dev] Re: API limit confusion
Ohh. Then one user can make 150 authorized calls via consumer and deny service to others :( On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Hwee-Boon Yar hweeb...@gmail.com wrote: It's working like you want it to be. In other words, you have a web app running on a single server with a single IP. You make authenticated requests using each user's account. If your IP is whitelisted, the calls go towards your 20k limit, if it is not whitelisted, it goes against the current 150 limit for the respective accounts. That's what it means by IP whitelisting takes precedence to account rate limits. -- Hwee-Boon On Jul 23, 3:02 pm, srikanth reddy srikanth.yara...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote: Each user and each IP has 150 calls/hour. If five applications (desktop or web) are making calls on behalf of a single user or IP they count against the same 150. Rate limiting has no connection to applications. Agreed. i have no issues with desktop apps as each user owns one (in which case ip/user does not matter and am pretty happy with 150 limit). But i am trying to understand this ip limit for web apps The whole confusion is regarding this statement inhttp:// apiwiki.twitter.com/Rate-limiting IP whitelisting takes precedence to account rate limits. *GET requests from a whitelisted IP address made on a user's behalf will be deducted from the whitelisted IP's limit, not the users*. Therefore, IP-based whitelisting is a best practice for applications that request many users' data If the above holds true my consumer web app could end up serving very few authenticated users. As you said it should be the other way. May be some one who has developed and encountered this problem with a webapp (with out being whitelisted) can confirm. Thanks Srikanth On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 15:06, srikanth reddy srikanth.yara...@gmail.comwrote: @Abraham: Does it mean my consumer app (not Desktop client) cannot serve more than 150 authorized users/hour(if it is not white listed). It is hard to believe. If it is desktop client the 150 limit is understandable. Each user and each IP has 150 calls/hour. If five applications (desktop or web) are making calls on behalf of a single user or IP they count against the same 150. Rate limiting has no connection to applications. The blog post says This limit applies to your Twitter account rather than the applications which make the calls to the API i.e. you have 100 API calls per hour in total regardless of which Twitter applications you use - it is NOT 100 API calls per application As you said Also it used to be that user requests from a whitelisted IP would reflect on the users limit unless they had hit their rate limit at which point it would count against the IP. its probably first user and then IP. Yes. User then IP. POST request have their own limits yes i do not mean infinite calls but my consumer app should be able to get more than 20k request tokens Thanks for your time. Really helpful Srikanth On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote: In your first email you said When I check an oAuth'd user's rate limit, he also seems gets 2 API hits. so I'm not sure what you are seeing. Also it used to be that user requests from a whitelisted IP would reflect on the users limit unless they had hit their rate limit at which point it would count against the IP. I'm not sure if it still works this way though. Abraham On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 08:43, sjespers se...@webkitchen.be wrote: @Abraham: If that were true then calling rate_limit_status should give the same result... which it doesn't! On Jul 22, 3:26 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote: I recommend that you both read: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Rate-limiting Serge: If you have an IP that is white listed all applicable calls from that IP will count against the 2 limit. Srikanth: That blog post says that twitter.com has no limit. It says nothing about anybody else not having a limit. The 20k is for GET requests however POST request have their own limits. Abraham On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 03:07, srikanth reddy srikanth.yara...@gmail.comwrote: Hi I am also looking for this. The following post says there is no limit on calls from application http://tweetdeck.posterous.com/what-does-rate-limit-exceeded Rate limit is applicable on Get methods from ip/client. Can someone confirm if one can make unlimited calls (from an app) to get request token? What is this 2 limit? Is it for GET calls for authorized client/ip Regards Srikanth On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:24 PM, sjespers se...@webkitchen.be wrote: Hi
[twitter-dev] Getting followers list with OAuth integration
Hey all I have integrated OAuth into my app. Now I want to get the follower lists using http://twitter.com/statuses/followers.xml for the user who has authenticated using OAuth. My app works on ruby on rails. And i want to know how i can fetch the followers list for the current logged in user. Currently when i m sending a request to open http://twitter.com/statuses/followers/current_user.screenname.xml i m getting 401 unauthorised error. Can any ne tell me the solution for it. Thanks
[twitter-dev] Re: API limit confusion
In other words, you have a web app running on a single server with a single IP. You make authenticated requests using each user's account. If your IP is whitelisted, the calls go towards your 20k limit, if it is not whitelisted, it goes against the current 150 limit for the respective accounts. That's what it means by IP whitelisting takes precedence to account rate limits. I don't believe that is true. If your web app is running on a whitelisted IP then you get up to 20k GET calls per hour. POST requests (status or DM) are counted against the user being authenticated. You CANNOT retrieve a user's rate limit status.
[twitter-dev] Re: Getting followers list with OAuth integration
yes i m getting access token and secret key and im using the plugin available on http://code.google.com/p/oauth-plugin/ On 7/23/09, jmathai jmat...@gmail.com wrote: Are you 100% positive that your oauth headers are correct? http://apiwiki.twitter.com/HTTP-Response-Codes-and-Errors Which library are you using? On Jul 23, 1:47 am, dhaval dhaval.parik...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all I have integrated OAuth into my app. Now I want to get the follower lists usinghttp://twitter.com/statuses/followers.xmlfor the user who has authenticated using OAuth. My app works on ruby on rails. And i want to know how i can fetch the followers list for the current logged in user. Currently when i m sending a request to openhttp:// twitter.com/statuses/followers/current_user.screenname.xmli m getting 401 unauthorised error. Can any ne tell me the solution for it. Thanks -- Dhaval Parikh Software Engineer Ruby on Rails (gtalk) dhaval.parik...@gmail.com (yahoo) parikh_dhava...@yahoo.com (msn id) dhaval_parik...@hotmail.com (url) www.dhavalparikh.co.in
[twitter-dev] How capture the statuses update reply?
Hello, I tried to update my Twitter status from my web page using an html form to post the update through twitter API. As result of the below code is that my web page is substituted with Twitter API response. Someone can help me to find a way to capture the Twitter API response, maybe inside JSON variable, to avoid exiting from my web page? (TIA) form name=input action=http://twitter.com/statuses/update.json; method=post bWrite inside Twitter area:/bbr input type=text name=status maxlength=140 style=width:220px/ input type=submit value=Submit / /form Mauro
[twitter-dev] Update multiple users at once
If I want to update multiple Twitter user accounts at once (with a different message for each), is there anyway to do it other than making multiple posts to update.xml? [I want to update accounts by cron; at the moment I have only a small number of users using the service, which isn't a problem. If this grows to several hundred, I suspect my cron job might time out before it can loop through 200 calls]
[twitter-dev] Re: Random updates coming from API
Have you tried unfollowing @twitterapi? On Jul 22, 8:59 pm, Devonne streeter solelydiv...@gmail.com wrote: I 've been receiving random profile updates coming from API on my profile for the last 4 weeks, i have send request to solve the issue, yet it still happening thank you
[twitter-dev] Re: Random updates coming from API
2009/7/23 solelydivine solelydiv...@gmail.com: I keep receiving random updated coming from API, are you able to check the mater out and stop them from randomly posting on my profile, Change your password. Chances are you've given your Twitter username and password to a website that's now posting updates without your permission. -Stuart -- http://stut.net/projects/twitter/
[twitter-dev] Re: Update multiple users at once
If I want to update multiple Twitter user accounts at once (with a different message for each), is there anyway to do it other than making multiple posts to update.xml? Nope. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Humor is a drug which it's the fashion to abuse. -- William Gilbert
[twitter-dev] Re: How capture the statuses update reply?
I tried to update my Twitter status from my web page using an html form to post the update through twitter API. As result of the below code is that my web page is substituted with Twitter API response. Someone can help me to find a way to capture the Twitter API response, maybe inside JSON variable, to avoid exiting from my web page? (TIA) form name=input action=http://twitter.com/statuses/update.json; method=post bWrite inside Twitter area:/bbr input type=text name=status maxlength=140 style=width:220px/ input type=submit value=Submit / /form You are essentially trying to post directly from your page, and this is prohibited by Twitter due to previous abuse. If you absolutely must retain full control over the posting process, you will need a script that does the posting through the API like any other client (and like any other client will need to handle authentication, etc.). If this is not so critical, then a URL like https://twitter.com/home?status=this+will+populate+the+input+box will automatically populate the input box, and the user can simply click Update if they are already logged in. I don't see this in the FAQ; maybe it should be put there. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- This signature is free of dihydrogen monoxide! Ban it now! www.dhmo.org
[twitter-dev] Re: A question regarding categorization of tweets
This is not an API question, but I don't know where else to ask it... Twitter recently changed their web setup. When I click on the followers link when I logged in on http://twitter.com I get a page of followers and choose between List and Expanded views. My first problem is that when I click on the follow icon next to a user's name, nothing happens. The generic gray avatar icon I click on (with the little + sign on it) flashes, but that's it. Second problem: when I go to that user's page (http://twitter.com/zooko in this case) and click on the Follow button, nothing happens. Third problem (related?): When I click on a Trending Topic link, I get taken to a new page that asks What are you doing?, has the usual update box, has the normal right sidebar - but which has no tweets on it at all. Fourth (related?): When I type a tweet into the update box, I no longer see a counter showing me how many chars I have left. It almost feels like I have a systematic problem with Javascript. But I'm using a stock Firefox (Ubuntu Linux Hardy 8.04 fully apt-get updated) 3.0.12. I have tried this with all FF extensions disabled. I have Javascript enabled. The rest of my web browsing seems fine, no problems with other sites AFAIK. It feels weird to be asking here about such fundamental problems. I haven't seen anyone else bring them up, so I imagine I have something weird going on. Or are there really so few people left on the planet using the regular web interface to Twitter? :-) Thanks for any help / suggestions. Terry
[twitter-dev] Re: how to destroy the tweet by HTTP POST?
I manage to post a tweet with HTTP POST. Then I dumped the result. It was in the XML format. I got this value within XML tag id2774581598/ id when I posted it successfully. I believe this is a twit numeric identifier we can use to destroy it but I'm getting 404 error. Now I wish to delete (destroy) the same twit...I'm trying with following code but it does NOT work. cfhttp url=http://twitter.com/statuses/destroy/ #arguments.statusID#.xml method=post username=#arguments.username# password=#arguments.password# useragent=twitterCFC cfhttpparam name=id value=#arguments.statusID# type=formfield / /cfhttp where arguments.statusID = 2774581598. Can someone help me please? Give a trace coming from your CF server using a proxy such as Charles. This will help to make sure that your code is emitting the correct headers/URL. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Neckties strangle clear thinking. -- Lin Yutang
[twitter-dev] How to get all the replies .
Hi ; I am new to Twitter Apps And Trying to get all the replies sent to me. Well the problem is when I send a query it gets only the last 20 replies. How can I be sure that I am getting all the replies sent to me and store them in my database ? Because all my application relies on this. If that is not a rule coming from twitter. Than my classes are faulty and does some one knows the best twitter PHP class to use for my apps. Thank you
[twitter-dev] Re: How to get all the replies .
I am new to Twitter Apps And Trying to get all the replies sent to me. Well the problem is when I send a query it gets only the last 20 replies. How can I be sure that I am getting all the replies sent to me and store them in my database ? Because all my application relies on this. If that is not a rule coming from twitter. Than my classes are faulty and does some one knows the best twitter PHP class to use for my apps. http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-statuses-mentions in particular the count parameter. If you expect to be getting a crapload of replies, you might be better off making up some sort of bot to fetch them at regular, respectful intervals. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Maturity is only a short break in adolescence. -- Jules Feiffer
[twitter-dev] Re: Update multiple users at once
Cheers for that: it's what I thought but just wanted to check. Guess I'll have to queue separate cron jobs if things start to get too big. On Jul 23, 1:31 pm, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote: If I want to update multiple Twitter user accounts at once (with a different message for each), is there anyway to do it other than making multiple posts to update.xml? Nope. -- personal:http://www.cameronkaiser.com/-- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems *www.floodgap.com* ckai...@floodgap.com -- Humor is a drug which it's the fashion to abuse. -- William Gilbert
[twitter-dev] Re: The Gardenhose Cooperative
So, I actually think that this is a very interesting idea ... but I would turn it around a little and ask: Would people be interested in creating a peer-to-peer network ala bit torrent for access to tweets? The idea is that we would create a point system where you make data available and you consume data for your own purposes. The more data you provide (read provide more connections to others) the more connections to other you can get. Since none of the private tweets can come across the streaming api, there is no worries about privacy, and since every request from one peer to another is done as a specific temporal slice, we don't run up against 5/ii of the stream api license. Thoughts? On Jul 22, 6:41 pm, braver delivera...@gmail.com wrote: After we lost a few days of gardenhose, I'm wondering whether it would be OK for us gardenhosers to back up each other. In case we do research, for instance -- as we do at Dartmouth. I suggest the following: say you lost a day or a few within the range since you were authorized, and are a member of our garden variety cooperative. You ask me to fill you in, and tell me the day you started gathering the hose. I pick a day for which you have data, and ask you to verify a few tweets somehow -- e.g. tell me which tweet ids there are for a certain user id. Would it be OK to self-organize like that, and who'd be our buddy? Cheers, Alexy
[twitter-dev] Re: Updating the APIs authentication limiting policy
Owkaye, Thanks for the comment and suggestion. The problem with implementing this locally at associated web sites rather than centrally at twitter is that: - each site would have to implement it separately; and - users would have to sign up and create a private ID at each site they use. That results in much confusion and duplication of effort both for web site developers and users. It would be be much less confusing and require much less total effort if it were done centrally. That said and given twitter's priorities and available resources, I don't expect them to implement this scheme or anything like it. And, at this time, we don't even know if this is a real issue or just a red-herring. I raised it because I saw it as a theoretical problem with the proposal, not because anyone that I know has experienced this problem. Does anybody see this as a real or potential problem, or should we just let the issue fade away? Comments expected and welcome. Jim On Jul 22, 3:28 pm, owkaye owk...@gmail.com wrote: One solution to this problem is to add to each twitter account another private ID. Jim, Wouldn't it make more sense to implement this private id thing on your own server? My thought here is that your service should maintain its own database of users, and issue a unique private id for each of these users. Then when the visitor tries to login, your code can check to see if the private id the visitor has entered is in your own database. If so the person is allowed to login, and if not they get an error. Would this work to solve the problem of am I missing something here? Owkaye
[twitter-dev] Re: Updating the APIs authentication limiting policy
Jim, What you're suggesting is basically what they offer with OAuth. Apps are given a token to represent logins and a secret key to represent passwords for their authenticated users. Both are very long and impossible to guess. This mechanism works very well and basically corrects all the issues with collecting actual logins and passwords from users. Scott
[twitter-dev] Re: Detecting positive / negative / question
http://tweetsentiments.com uses Machine Learning and NLP for sentiment analysis. No published API access yet(some already available), but it's on the road map. Currently sacrificing some precision for speed, but we will focus on improving precision in the near future.
[twitter-dev] Re: The Gardenhose Cooperative
What John was referring to above were the statements in the EULA which you sign to access the gardenhose which prohibit this type of redistribution. Thanks, Doug On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Twittledeewebs...@twittledee.com wrote: So, I actually think that this is a very interesting idea ... but I would turn it around a little and ask: Would people be interested in creating a peer-to-peer network ala bit torrent for access to tweets? The idea is that we would create a point system where you make data available and you consume data for your own purposes. The more data you provide (read provide more connections to others) the more connections to other you can get. Since none of the private tweets can come across the streaming api, there is no worries about privacy, and since every request from one peer to another is done as a specific temporal slice, we don't run up against 5/ii of the stream api license. Thoughts? On Jul 22, 6:41 pm, braver delivera...@gmail.com wrote: After we lost a few days of gardenhose, I'm wondering whether it would be OK for us gardenhosers to back up each other. In case we do research, for instance -- as we do at Dartmouth. I suggest the following: say you lost a day or a few within the range since you were authorized, and are a member of our garden variety cooperative. You ask me to fill you in, and tell me the day you started gathering the hose. I pick a day for which you have data, and ask you to verify a few tweets somehow -- e.g. tell me which tweet ids there are for a certain user id. Would it be OK to self-organize like that, and who'd be our buddy? Cheers, Alexy
[twitter-dev] Re: Change your avatar's Twitter
How to replace the image of the avatar through the Twitter API or any other form automatically? http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method%3A-account%C2%A0update_profile_image -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Courage is being scared to death, and saddling up anyway. -- John Wayne
[twitter-dev] Change your avatar's Twitter
Hi, How to replace the image of the avatar through the Twitter API or any other form automatically? I am wanting to do something similar to http://twibbon.com -- Amplexos, Leo Baiano http://www.leobaiano.com http://www.blog.ljunior.com http://www.mcelebridades.com http://www.twitter.com/leobaiano
[twitter-dev] Re: Detecting positive / negative / question
Tom, thanks for the link. I've been to the site in the past. I just revisited, and entered Sarah Palin in the search box. It returned 50 tweets, labeled 39 as neutral, 5 positive and 6 negative. I checked the actual tweets, and here's what I found: - Neutral: I only found one (maybe). The other 38 were actually pretty negative. - Positive: only one was positive, the other four were sarcasm. - Negative: you did well here, 5 were negative, and one was actually positive. So, the accuracy level on this test is 6 or 7 out of 50, or anywhere from 12% to 14%. Given the state of the art in computing power, I think we're still years away from NLP and Machine Learning, being able to properly process sarcasm, double entendre, backhanded compliments, turns of word, etc. So that may work in a limited fashion, and for certain topics, where the format and style are controlled, but not when it's free for all. On Jul 23, 1:28 pm, tomz tom.z.z...@gmail.com wrote: http://tweetsentiments.comuses Machine Learning and NLP for sentiment analysis. No published API access yet(some already available), but it's on the road map. Currently sacrificing some precision for speed, but we will focus on improving precision in the near future.
[twitter-dev] Re: Getting followers list with OAuth integration
Can someone tell me if they have done it before? On 7/23/09, Dhaval Parikh dhaval.parik...@gmail.com wrote: yes i m getting access token and secret key and im using the plugin available on http://code.google.com/p/oauth-plugin/ On 7/23/09, jmathai jmat...@gmail.com wrote: Are you 100% positive that your oauth headers are correct? http://apiwiki.twitter.com/HTTP-Response-Codes-and-Errors Which library are you using? On Jul 23, 1:47 am, dhaval dhaval.parik...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all I have integrated OAuth into my app. Now I want to get the follower lists usinghttp://twitter.com/statuses/followers.xmlfor the user who has authenticated using OAuth. My app works on ruby on rails. And i want to know how i can fetch the followers list for the current logged in user. Currently when i m sending a request to openhttp:// twitter.com/statuses/followers/current_user.screenname.xmli m getting 401 unauthorised error. Can any ne tell me the solution for it. Thanks -- Dhaval Parikh Software Engineer Ruby on Rails (gtalk) dhaval.parik...@gmail.com (yahoo) parikh_dhava...@yahoo.com (msn id) dhaval_parik...@hotmail.com (url) www.dhavalparikh.co.in -- Dhaval Parikh Software Engineer Ruby on Rails (gtalk) dhaval.parik...@gmail.com (yahoo) parikh_dhava...@yahoo.com (msn id) dhaval_parik...@hotmail.com (url) www.dhavalparikh.co.in
