[twitter-dev] Re: Poor documentation. For example, regarding lists. Suggestions for improvement.
So if I want to have an information about a list you expect me to read all of the documention to figure out which version to use although i am fine in programming. I guess just including something as a proper documentation for example a link see current available versions here is too much to ask. list_id is available from the index of lists for a user. This request is the /1/lists request: http://dev.twitter.com/doc/get/lists so i am supposed to get my list info, use the user infos (which ii have to work through as well as no working examples are provided there), scan through the nearly 2k lists for the one i want and then be able to implement a simple list request. I see. that is so much more sensible than just having one (!) working example on the page and allowing for an easy way of figuring out hei you know the owner and the slug of the list you are looking? this is how you write the code example. know the id? this is how you do it. Alternatively, if those values are unknown or you don't wish to look them up, you can provide the slug and screen_name as you have done in your example. great. how about an example on that page about how to do so, since the information on the page is additionally inconsistent? i have not looked up the api doc for a while, but the current status is ridiculous. not even all parameters are correctly listed nor how to call them. I have to search google for documentation on how to properly format an api request in 5 min instead of being able to look at the real documentation. but hei, it looks much more pretty now. /sarcasm Nicole -- http://nicole-simon.eu / http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon -- Twitter developer documentation and resources: https://dev.twitter.com/doc API updates via Twitter: https://twitter.com/twitterapi Issues/Enhancements Tracker: https://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/list Change your membership to this group: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/twitter-development-talk
Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Retweets and the Public Timeline
As retweets are such a basic feature for users, it is hard to understand how this question could not have come up before in designing of the limitations. I suggest you add a switch to the api call w/o authentication, then the apps can decide what to do with this, as in once they are ready they can switch it on. As for the users, the suggestion can only be: do not use the retweet feature if you are interested in sharing information to your followers, as your retweets will not be seen elsewhere. [similar thing btw is going for the lists: tweet results for a list do not show retweets or replies - meaning you have to advise users not to use @reply at the beginning or the RT feature if they want their tweets seen] Nicole -- My german twitter site http://mit140zeichen.de - http://twitter.com/m140z Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon https://www.xing.com/profile/Nicole_Simon skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nicole.si...@mit140zeichen.de phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
[twitter-dev] Re: lang parameter in the search api
The language selection is useless, even with a limitation to English. The problem is probably that normal methods of attributing language are more or less based on longer text - and not text stripped down to 140 chars or less. If you want to make detection f.e. in search, rather get all results and apply common sense methods, like grep special words which most likely are only used in your language of choice. For real 'select your choice here' it is not going to work. At the current rate, this is rather hurting than helping. I instruct users in my book to rather use search which will limit itself, i.e. use German words if possible in search. Nicole -- My german twitter site http://mit140zeichen.de - http://twitter.com/m140z Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon https://www.xing.com/profile/Nicole_Simon skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nicole.si...@mit140zeichen.de phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
[twitter-dev] Re: Best way to get tweets from me, to me, mentioning me
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 06:47, Scott Haneda talkli...@newgeo.com wrote: Thanks. These users will be mobile, largely, and asking them to log in to see what will amount to comments is asking too much. This is more a add on feature that some may find value in. Why would they want to see their own messages then? besides that, going for @username is good in the search - except the search has proven to provide unreliable results in the past. sign up for a service like tweetlater and hootsuite and do the same tracking in all three services, and notice the differences. add the @replies on the website and it is the best to cache the results back at your place. ;) NIcole
[twitter-dev] legal issues - is tweet an official verb in the US language?
Question: is to tweet an official word in the english language both american and english? as in widely used? does the US and UK trademark system reject such applications? In the german TM system, a word which is widely used cannot be trademarked. Like you can use Water as a image mark (logowise etc) but not have the word trademarked. [twit in different trademark class] re twit from Matt Freedman No, the Twit trademark doesn't cover most of the Twitter-related use of it[1]. Although some uses (such as TwitVid) may be considered trademark infringement under the Twit trademark. (the link you gave matt is an expired search.) legal systems are differnt, but in general, the western world does use mostly the same system. this is how this would run in the german system and I am pretty sure it is similar in the US (=somebody with real knowledge may be able to confirm the classes theory?) of course the twit one is for something different. what I meant is that i imagine that you do have the same classes system, meaning you can have a trademark for twit as 'computer thingy' and nobody else can have a trademark in _that class_ although it might be something totally different. example: there is a detergent called linux. even if linux the OS has a tm, it is in different classes. if I would like to build a game though, or a computer device like a mouse and call it linux I could not - because it is in the same class as the linux OS one. Neither can I have a thing which is covered in the same class as the detergent. but I can have a chocolaet named linux because that is a third class. Nicole -- Jetzt im Buchhandel: Twitter - Mit 140 Zeichen zum Web 2.0 Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/6at9c5 http://mit140zeichen.de - http://twitter.com/m140z Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon https://www.xing.com/profile/Nicole_Simon skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nicole.si...@mit140zeichen.de phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
[twitter-dev] Re: Open Auth
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 22:26, Kevin Mesiab ke...@mesiablabs.com wrote: The interaction seems unintuitive and redundant for users who have already granted our application 'trust' by installing it. I can't understand this notion. Every single day users are sheep enough to do stupid things - they just need to be guided to do so. And then they will follow. Every single day (especially the normal users) install dozens of apps on facebook without even thinking about that box in the middle nor reading it. And 'the experienced ones' who teach the sheeps make sure that never use your password gets drilled into their heads. Before there was no alternative. Now there is a better way.From now it is password? BAD. Using without password and authorize with twitter: good! Yes, they have granted you the trust of installing it, but could you please set the mindset to the goal? as part of our x step installation step, this is what is going to happen: - download app - install app - test app - now the fun part: making sure you get the best ou tof this experience and connect it with twitter itself, and this is how it looks. We are using the secure process where you do not need to enter anywhere your password. we never ask for your password, because we are the good guys! - do this - do that and tada! you can start using our app! thanks for trusting us! Where is the problem? It only is unintuitve when you make it as such. of course the above is too complicated, so the real steps only should be 3 easy steps to go - download, install, connect, use! or something like it. But as long as you treat it as the ugly way you don't want to use, you will not make it easy on you. Nicole -- Jetzt im Buchhandel: Twitter - Mit 140 Zeichen zum Web 2.0 Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/6at9c5 http://mit140zeichen.de - http://twitter.com/m140z Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon https://www.xing.com/profile/Nicole_Simon skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nicole.si...@mit140zeichen.de phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
[twitter-dev] Re: OAUTH: Basic Auth is simpler/more reliable/more secure/better received than OAuth!?
I am surprised nobody is bringing up these too points: - people will use the more secure thing once they are educated. you know the kind of stuff where you tell the people you support that they will not get tech support any more if they do this. - the argument about 'having to agree on something' is not as bad as it sound because they do it every day on facebook. The one thing I do mind that even I always have to search aruond to find the place where my apps are located. Nicole ~~~ -- Jetzt im Buchhandel: Twitter - Mit 140 Zeichen zum Web 2.0 Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/6at9c5 http://mit140zeichen.de - http://twitter.com/m140z Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon https://www.xing.com/profile/Nicole_Simon skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nicole.si...@mit140zeichen.de phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
[twitter-dev] Sign in with twitter w/o any further rights?
As I undertand it, a twitter oauth process will give me as the application either read or read write access. Which means - unless I am mistaken - that with read access the app can read user's DMs. If so, would there be a way to have a third status named Authenticate or anything like it to indicate to the user that this app can 'only' authenticate and not do anything more? It could be used for all the sign in with twitter plugins on all blog sites, and site where you use your twitter-id just for quick registration. In the longer run I would like to be able as a user to say per app what it is allowed to do. Nicole [I have been looking through the archive to see if this was discusses before, and my keywords did not yield a response to this question - if there was one, please just tell me so. ;)] -- http://twitter.com/nicolesimon http://crueltobekind.org
[twitter-dev] Re: Tweet Corpus creation for NLP research
Anything you can do to help people determine better the language of tweets, so search is more usable for international users. ;)) I am a bit curious about the mentioned 'costs of publishing in journals and conferences' - don't know about the journals. but none of the conferences I know of in Tech would charge anybody for presenting such kind of results. As long as you are not a boring academic speaker this should be interesting enough for some of the major tech ones. (it makes it easier if you can bring a specific dev or biz angle) Nicole
[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:12 PM, ray ray.pig...@gmail.com wrote: I'm with Jesse on this one This is like giving somebody the key to the house and then complain that people can 'just' get into the house. If you don't want to be DMed by certain people, dont follow them. If you do get something from them, unfollow. Use Optout lists from Services who offer them like tweetlater. write a skript which will unfollow everyone who dm's you. Choose not to receive dm. Or set up a filter in your email programm to spam certain DM automatically. At the end of the day it all boils down to: If you follow people, they can DM you, period. If you dont like it, be more selective about who you follow. Nicole
[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Ed Costello epcoste...@gmail.com wrote: I'm fine with getting DM'd by *people* I follow. But I don't expect to get DM'd by @cnnbrk or @jetblue unless I'm directly engaging them. There's no granularity to separate getting DM'd by a friend I follow from DM'd by a bot powering a corporate account. Then why are you following those 'bots powered by corporate account' so that they can DM you? Especially since every twitter account is also available by RSS? Alternately, if you want the ability to spam DM everyone who follows a given account, then there must be a corresponding feature to block DMs from accounts one follows. It is called don't follow but read the content elsewhere. You can't have the cake and eat it. Do you really think twitter as a company should spend their dev time in making separation which are down to each person to decide rather than keeping the system running? If you want that feature, build a system which retrieves all your DMS and allows you to set them as 'friends' and 'bad bots' and only let those through which you want to see. Again: this is not a twitter problem, but a usage tool. Nicole
[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:34 PM, guruvan guru...@gmail.com wrote: Dossy, not this doesn't work for me. I don't really a) have time or b) want to unfollow a new follower (and likely new user of twitter) because of poor first judgement. I would like to simply opt-out of those types of messages. At even just a couple thousand followers, I get so many of those a day I can't see my real DMs from people I wish to talk to. If you don't have the time to do it, then hire somebody to do it. Or don't follow people and make better judegement. And again; You can switch off receiving DMs. You can provide a link to a contact form with your website. You can even put up your email address in your profile as the picture. You have all the tools but you want somebody else to do the work for you. btw I am in no way saying that I do agree with Mass DM or anything. It is just that you do blame the wrong part of the equation for it. Nicole
[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Jesse Stay jesses...@gmail.com wrote: Apps have an ethical responsibility to provide opt-out, plain and simple if they're going to enable the sending of mass-DMs in any way. I didn't opt-into getting sales advertisements from the people I follow when I joined Twitter. It is never about the responsible ones, it is always about the stupid ones. Even if opt out is required, then people will pay people to write the DM per hand as there is money to make. DM is like email and should be handled the same way. And btw why it is okay for you to have a gazillion apps with an optout but you cannot set up filters to filter out those messages? Nicole
[twitter-dev] Re: sending DM to all followers?
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Jesse Stay jesses...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't have the time to do it, then hire somebody to do it. Am I really hearing this right? So now *I* have to lose money because I'm getting spam??? Yeah right. If you do not know how to use the tools, then please use a manual. There are enough basic twitter books around. How do I switch off receiving DMs? I get DMs no matter what. I can turn off notifications, but not DMs. Twitter really has not a lot of options. If you do not know how to do that, you obviously never looked. http://twitter.com/account/notifications May I ask what you do on the _developper_ list if you do not even know this much? btw I am in no way saying that I do agree with Mass DM or anything. It is just that you do blame the wrong part of the equation for it. It certainly sounds like you do. What auto-DM or mass-DM service are you running again? None. As a matter of fact, as the author of the German twitter book it specifically states that you are stupid to use such DM and the best way to loose your followers, get banned by twitter, and pointed out by people in other systems like blogs. also it is one of the things every single customer of mine gets to hear from me if they want or not (in the greater scheme of how to do intelligent social media). Every single time I do collect twitter users (like for example for the lists I do host about twitter users from certain areas in Germany) I do ask specifically for an email address which is then processed by double opt in, clearly marked as do you understand that if you click 'inform me about updates you will receive such notice. Of course there will always eb people who then complain about getting such information like yourself, but for people like you there is the this is where you unsubscribe from the information you actually requested. Nicole -- Jetzt im Buchhandel: Twitter - Mit 140 Zeichen zum Web 2.0 Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/6at9c5 http://mit140zeichen.de - http://twitter.com/m140z Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon https://www.xing.com/profile/Nicole_Simon skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nicole.si...@mit140zeichen.de phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
[twitter-dev] Re: regex for smiley indexing?
I would assume that they do use a simple OR. Nicole -- Jetzt im Buchhandel: Twitter - Mit 140 Zeichen zum Web 2.0 Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/6at9c5 http://mit140zeichen.de - http://twitter.com/m140z Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon https://www.xing.com/profile/Nicole_Simon skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nicole.si...@mit140zeichen.de phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
[twitter-dev] Search for a link / no partial search
Please tell me if I missed something: I was trying to figure out why the frak my search did not yield any results as I was playing around with the Yoast tweetback plugin for WP. And I think I have found the culprit: A search for http://tinyurl.com/acu8rb does not bring a result back if somebody tweeted reading: topic blabla (http://tinyurl.com/acu8rb) [which is how twithis posts all links). My question is: assuming that partiel search is hard to implement, would it at least be possible to implement a 'search for link'? you do after all 'recognize' the link so it should be searchable, right? Otherwise I see gazillion possiblities how tweetbacks would have to be queried and I am sure you would not like the API traffic. ;) thanks Nicole -- Jetzt im Buchhandel: Twitter - Mit 140 Zeichen zum Web 2.0 Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/6at9c5 http://mit140zeichen.de - http://twitter.com/m140z Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon https://www.xing.com/profile/Nicole_Simon skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nicole.si...@mit140zeichen.de phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
[twitter-dev] Re: one-click follow
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:40 PM, TjL luo...@gmail.com wrote: That's exactly how blocking works. but blocking is a rare plus also a 'negative' action meaning it requires an extra step because it is unusual to the users of twitter and it should be additional to avoid mistakes. following on the other hand is at the core of twitter and comes right after tweeting - it is nothing where the user really has to think about oh how do I do this but rather leading to the part where they make their usual decision if or if not to follow somebody. I'd love to see something like: http://twitter.com/follow/confirm/NAME which would explain following and notifications (and give them a chance to turn notifications on/off right there if they have a device defined). in this case I would have to go to the real profil to make my decision and then click on follow - 3 steps instead of 2, there is not really an advantage. Nicole -- Jetzt im Buchhandel: Twitter - Mit 140 Zeichen zum Web 2.0 Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/6at9c5 http://mit140zeichen.de - http://twitter.com/m140z Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon https://www.xing.com/profile/Nicole_Simon skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nicole.si...@mit140zeichen.de phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
Re: Feedback for Adobe?
Great. Would be interested to see how much part the Twitter clients have with the download of AIR apps. Non standard windows behaviour on a basic level. Using AIR apps takes me out of my ecosystem. I could are less about cross platform, that is something hindering me promoting any air app. Memory usage - dont know if it is the programming of the app or an air problem. Best practise usages / examples done by twitter or adobe would help the community to build better apps. Supporting that will be helpful for more spread of AIR apps. hth Nicole
Re: New API methods to retrieve social graph without pagination
Awesome. I still do downloads of follower lists because it is an easier way to get a batch of information from the profile data than requesting every single one, but this already is a huge advancement. Small suggestion: Add a last changed info to it for social graph change or a number? Like if I have in my db that user X has 200 follower and 200 following, and the new number is 300 and 210 I might say 'woops, need to check follower but not the following'? Speaking of dates: Is there any way the new api does not require the funny dates or is there a method I overlooked not to need to use sth like this: Tue%2C+27+Mar+2007+22%3A55%3A48+GMT 0703272255 i can easily build as year month day etc, but the additional name of the month and day complicates things unecessarily. thanks Nicole
Re: 2000 follow limit
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Patrick Minton patr...@lexblog.com wrote: Does being whitelisted also mean that you can follow more than 2000 people without having 2000 followed? Lextweet.com uses a twitter account to follow members of the legal community and we are rapidly approaching 2000 Build Subgroups / Sets to follow and use the well known limit to encourage users to tag themselves / rate each other to allow for a better matchmaking. Nobody wants to follow all of them but everybody wants to follow the interesting ones. Nicole -- Jetzt im Buchhandel: Twitter - Mit 140 Zeichen zum Web 2.0 Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/6at9c5 http://mit140zeichen.de - http://twitter.com/m140z Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon https://www.xing.com/profile/Nicole_Simon skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nicole.si...@mit140zeichen.de phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
Re: checking availability of username/account
I assume that show user of a non existant name returns an error code? Nicole
Re: Feature request: whitelist/blacklist sent for friends_timeline
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:36 PM, TweetByMail rpill...@gmail.com wrote: I have a filter set up on my end that can either whitelist or blacklist a set of friend usernames. A person may want to read all the updates on the web, but only want a select few emailed to them. I suggest to your users to add a second user for that as per API you run into limits. This way all can be fetched as well as the people you want to follow can get a second follower. People know about the limitations and the success of twitter and you can always tell them that this second account is their secretary where they can notes to by DM as well as is there jsut for retrieving the data and not to be twittered with. Until Twitter implements a group feature in an enhanced version, you will always run into that problem. Nicole
fyi: Get your twitter app discovered
In case you'd like some more attention for your twitter application, Robin Wauter's did an article on TC about where to find Twitter apps. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/10/5-good-ways-to-discover-twitter-applications/ This and 64 comments / trackbacks give you some ideas on where to submit your app to. Personal note: In order to write about apps it is always helpful to have several screenshots available direct on your site (blogformat please, including your logo) as well as short, functional (no marketing bullshit) descriptions, including the tweet about this button. hth Nicole -- http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon // http://mit140zeichen.de/ http://crueltobekind.org // http://beissholz.de skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nee...@gmail.com phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
Re: fyi: Get your twitter app discovered
This may be a naive question, but what is a blogformat image? (defun Chad) typical blog layouts run at a maximum width with all the sidebars and such. It is good to have different width available but the promoted one on your website should be a max of 400px wide, I think 350 is more like it. reason: If I have to think about what to do with your image I will do one of two links: not include your image or just put it in my blog editor who will do the conversion for me, most likely resulting in blurry image. I'd bet that the only reason Robin used the header of those sites is simply because they had no logo available. take the blog you most want to get on and take alook at the pictures they provide and get one of your app accordingly. See for example http://twitdom.com/category/web-apps/ hth Nicole -- http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon // http://mit140zeichen.de/ http://crueltobekind.org // http://beissholz.de skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nee...@gmail.com phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
How Twitter will be integrated in'blog design'
The author of http://tweetback.holzhauer.it/ pinged me for his tweetback project and mentioned that http://mashable.com/2009/01/04/twitter-blog-design/ inspired him; http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/01/09/tweetbacks-plugin-for-wordpress/ does the same and I saw another one called chat catcher. With everybody revamping their blog designs and the importance of twitter - may I suggest somebody looks into this before it is wide spread and lots of wordpress installs get black listed because they hammer the API, and consequently submit a lot of questions to support? This is a fail whale waiting to happen. My suggestion would be to address this issue maybe for the blog authors before they all start implementing this or at least urging tweetback developpers to put in mechanisms for throtteling, maybe having one article explaining a bit of the daily limitations an api can have. I assume blog integration will grow in importance and also bring back up the question if if twitter or not should decode the urls back again to ensure a more trackable web - it could be that the api delivers two results as message, one with the normal tweet and one with the complete decoded tweet. hth Nicole http://tweetback.holzhauer.it/ -- Using Twitter and having a blog? Try Tweetback at http://tweetback.holzhauer.it/ -- Suche Beta-Tester für Experiment: Journalisten suchen Blogger - http://bloxpert.de/ Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon // http://mit140zeichen.de/ http://crueltobekind.org // http://beissholz.de skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nee...@gmail.com phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
Re: create friendship from URL, NON API Method?
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote: I think the best you can do is just point them to the user's profile on twitter and hope that they login and click follow. You can do better. Use the 'tweet this' code examples, programm a 'follow $username' message and explain somewhere that sending out this message will follow that particular user and that this message will not be tweetet out. hth Nicole ps: Resist the temptation to build something inbetween like MrTweet so you can track the actions - people do not like being tracked and will circumvent this step. -- Suche Beta-Tester für Experiment: Journalisten suchen Blogger - http://bloxpert.de/ Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon // http://mit140zeichen.de/ http://crueltobekind.org // http://beissholz.de skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nee...@gmail.com phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
Why App devs have to be careful about what their colleagues do
I am adding these notes because I believe every App Dev should strongly consider the implications their app has on the whole ecosystem of apps - and what their colleagus are doing. All it takes is one app to be really stupid to challenge whatever you are doing and create a really bad mood. Want another, not directly app related example? http://www.mytweetspace.com/ this site first got on my radar because I scan Twitter Apps for writing about them. It used a picture of Chris Messina for advertisement on the top - of course without asking him and I am pretty sure the others at the top are some users they did not ask either. Given that I would bet that in the same way most of their offered pictures are not licenced either. Why is this relevant? Well, look how they are playing it: http://marketplace.sitepoint.com/auctions/55002 Re: Displaying public user data / tweet this buttons only when user is authenticated - popup issues On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote: I intend to address this shortly. It's not the API's intended behavior. Of course it is not. You go for the 'oh would'nt it be cool' first and have to implement the I can't believe people would do this' later. Thankfully most 'security people' have a sense of honor and most bad guys do not have the intelligence to make use of these tools. You learn to anticipate what bad people can do and try to be one up with them. As for normal people there is only two ways to make them use security: Restrict their access - which is what I bet most people on this list do with everybody they have to 'support' - and scare the shit out of them. I'd love to have Chad post the proof of concept after this has been fixed - the work is done and it would be a good example to give to others developping apps Nicole -- Suche Beta-Tester für Experiment: Journalisten suchen Blogger - http://bloxpert.de/ Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon // http://mit140zeichen.de/ http://crueltobekind.org // http://beissholz.de skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nee...@gmail.com phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
Re: twitter keyword tracking?
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:45 PM, charris1980 christopher.jason.har...@gmail.com wrote: is tracking back in twitter yet? i put in track word and it didn't work, just posted my tweet. tweetbeep.com is down so can't use that anymore. any suggestions to track keywords throughout twitter? search.twitter.com feed your favourite feed2email service might need more work on higher traffic topics search api as described in the documentation I think tools like tweetdeek implement the search as well. Nicole
@oauth_now
I thought some of you might be interested: http://pleasetwitterimplementoauthnow.com/ Please follow the user @oauth_now http://twitter.com/oauth_now to show your support for a better, more secure Twitter! Once you follow @oauth_nowhttp://twitter.com/oauth_nowyou will get exactly two direct messages from the user @oauth_now http://twitter.com/oauth_now. One message asks you to retweet this message http://tinyurl.com/safertwitter and the second message will be sent out once Twitter finally has implemented OAuth for every Twitter user. Nicole -- http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon // http://mit140zeichen.de/ http://crueltobekind.org // http://beissholz.de skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nee...@gmail.com phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
Re: Displaying public user data / tweet this buttons only when user is authenticated - popup issues
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote: I could send a tweet from some account that says @user hello! thanks for dropping by mysite.com! Hope you enjoyed it! How many people *wouldn't* be freaked out by that? (In fact, I should try that and see what kind of reaction it generates...) [x] send url, will retweet. Nicole -- http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon // http://mit140zeichen.de/ http://crueltobekind.org // http://beissholz.de skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nee...@gmail.com phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
Re: Is the documentation to blame?
Usually api are to complicated to programm without knowledge and although it is said so in the documentation that you only need a account (not the users account), this api is 'too easy' to attract people without much knowledge and you see the result. (The users of course are not any better). It might be best to add to the wiki a flag saying this command needs a authentification auth:any this command needs authentification from the user in question - auth:user linked to a mini explanation. Nicole -- Suche Beta-Tester für Experiment: Journalisten suchen Blogger - http://bloxpert.de/ Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon // http://mit140zeichen.de/ http://crueltobekind.org // http://beissholz.de skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nee...@gmail.com phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
Re: This is why it's Urgent
Cameron's comment shows why a system like Oauth is important: Making it easy for third party developpers. Making it easier for users to build trust. Btw business idea, as it did work with summize: Build an oauth service between third apps and twitter, gain the trust from the users, force devs to use it. As this can be switched on by twitter any moment: take a small amount of money from the users in the meantime until twitter implements it. I'd probably pay 10 dollars a year for such an intermediary service (so make that 5 for six months) Business idea 2 for you so you don't canibalise yourself: Let's use a pledge drive to put up money for you and implement these. Alex: Christopher St John's comments above accurately reflect my own concerns. OAuth is not a security magic bullet, and it only encourages phishing attacks. I feel bad for users that have given their credentials to a phishing site, and we'll do everything we can to educate them, but token-based authentication systems are not going to fix this particular security problem. Of course it is not a magic bullet but let's not forget that having to provide my login data on third party apps because nothing else exists is really stupid. It may not be the magic bullet but in comparison that is miles between those too. Getting worked up into hysterics about boycotts is just, as security expert Bruce Schenier is fond of saying, security theater. It's the equivalent of an apartment building's tenants telling their landlord they refuse to use keys because someone's place got broken into. The equivilant you are looking for is that in order to have operations done in my appartment all I can do is hand out my keys instead of being able to use the trusted third party service which will watch them just for a bit. Are users stupid and dont know what they do? Of course. Basically it surprises me to see it took them phishers so long to go for it. But you can see a clear correlation with some of the recent news with twitter news popping up on sites like digitalpoint and co. The ecosystem is one of the reasons why Twitter is succeeding, interviews with users show that over and over again. Nicole -- Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon // http://mit140zeichen.de/ http://crueltobekind.org // http://beissholz.de skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nee...@gmail.com phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
Re: Is the documentation to blame?
Definitely happy to make it more clear which methods require authentication and which do not. However, to get the effect that's most intuitive from calling the API methods, calling them as the user whose data you're interested in is the most straightforward approach. Which is what brought us into this mess (and I am telling you that is not getting better) I'd rather have the user 'learn' which actions require the access to my password. Which basically should be just two areas: sending tweets / DM and changing settings. Most apps should not require the password and like childreen people like Chris Brogan and co will make them learn that this is all they should share. It is like childreen and fire. The viral effect most devs wish for (oh they should tweet about me!) can be reached without the users login data by encouraging the users to spread the news. See this result from http://twtpoll.com/r/49jw9z as an example of how it is done in a way that I as a user am happy to spread the news in comparison to the most often stupid automated messages. hth Nicole -- Suche Beta-Tester für Experiment: Journalisten suchen Blogger - http://bloxpert.de/ Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon // http://mit140zeichen.de/ http://crueltobekind.org // http://beissholz.de skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nee...@gmail.com phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
Re: Friends / Followers without authentication?
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:26 PM, peterhough em...@peterhough.co.uk wrote: How do they make requests while authenticated as their own account without supplying a password? Am I missing something here... Yes. You only need 'a' username not their username. It is not super obvious but you can ask for follower and friends for anybody you just need to authenticate yourself against twitter. Pattern: http://twitter.com/statuses/friends/nicolesimon.xml?page=2 http://twitter.com/statuses/followers/nicolesimon.xml?page=2 will get you everything. hth Nicole -- http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon // http://mit140zeichen.de/ http://crueltobekind.org // http://beissholz.de skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nee...@gmail.com phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
Re: Racking my brain to figure out how to use users/show
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Peter Denton petermdenton $host = http://twitter.com/users/show/$businessUser.xml;; shouldt that be https for more secure transmission of the data`? Nicole -- http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon // http://mit140zeichen.de/ http://crueltobekind.org // http://beissholz.de skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nee...@gmail.com phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
Re: Displaying public user data / tweet this buttons only when user is authenticated - popup issues
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote: My question, though, is whether or not this sort of behavior is intentional, for 3rd party sites to be able to discover the identity of twitter users on their sites? Personally, I find this to be more worrisome than the current username/password issues. This would run into legal problems if you use it, at least in the european union. without being a lawyer but it roughly goes into being able to connect data to a users - german sites for example face legal implications for even having google analytics on the site. hth Nicole
re: twitter authority
On Jan 2, 10:45 pm, Ben Metcalfe ben.metca...@gmail.com wrote: I'm building a twitter authority bot that makes numerous calls to twitter to derive a given user's authority. great. can I assume that the non monolingual perspective is taken care of? ;) as usual happy to throw suggestions out and play beta tester. I also have some data of a purely German user base (~5K) which you might test some ideas against. PS: Do you guys have an IRC chan or something - I *REALLY* don't want to turn this on and give you problems so would love to have some real time contact (short of walking around to your offices!). Oh yes please. I suggest the usual, making a #twitterapi or so on freenode? #twitter already exists. Nicole -- Suche Beta-Tester für Experiment: Journalisten suchen Blogger - http://bloxpert.de/ Kontakt: http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon // http://mit140zeichen.de/ http://crueltobekind.org // http://beissholz.de skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nee...@gmail.com phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
Re: A nice application
On Dec 27 2008, 2:17 am, dumis.admarket...@gmail.com dumis.admarket...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to build an application where a twitter user can store the birthday date of his friends. Is that possible using Twitter API ? Besides running into data protection issues, I do not want to have yet another database where I have to add sth like a date. Rather go on top of existing data and enhance my experience in tweeting / DM for birthday wishes. Nicole ps: dont forget timezones ;) -- http://twitter.com/NicoleSimon // http://mit140zeichen.de/ http://crueltobekind.org // http://beissholz.de skype: nicole.simon / mailto:nee...@gmail.com phone: +49 451 899 75 03 / mobile: +49 179 499 7076
