[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Lists Need Optional Hashtag binding with list subscription
This sounds like what I've already done (for fishing) at http://FishTwits.com ... With my codebase, creating similar sites for sports, food, tech, whatever would mostly just be a matter of getting a new layout designed and new lists of keywords made up. Feel free to contact me off-list if you'd like to talk about doing so. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 07:14:58PM -0400, Chad Etzel wrote: This sounds like a 3rd party API application opportunity to me... -Chad On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:11 PM, leonspencer spencer_l...@yahoo.com wrote: The new lists are a great way reduce the clutter in timeline. However, I immediately notice management problems with the lists where tweets are duplicate in timeline and list for tweets that have nothing to do with the list. For example, let's say I have a sports list: http://twitter.com/#/list/leonspencer/sports I add userA that tweets about sports. But userA also tweets about food. And being a friend, userA will tweet about personal stuff. If a user tweets about sports, dining, and personal stuff, ALL of these tweets are shown under the sports list as well as my timeline. Furthermore, if I create a second list for food/dining and add userA, ALL of the tweets regardless of food or sports will display under both lists. So what would be great is for Twitter to allow the optional specification of one or more hashtags when associating an account with a list, which would indicate tweets from that account should only appear under this list IF these hashtags are part of the tweet. Leon -- Dave Sherohman
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Lists Need Optional Hashtag binding with list subscription
This sounds like a 3rd party API application opportunity to me... -Chad On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:11 PM, leonspencer spencer_l...@yahoo.com wrote: The new lists are a great way reduce the clutter in timeline. However, I immediately notice management problems with the lists where tweets are duplicate in timeline and list for tweets that have nothing to do with the list. For example, let's say I have a sports list: http://twitter.com/#/list/leonspencer/sports I add userA that tweets about sports. But userA also tweets about food. And being a friend, userA will tweet about personal stuff. If a user tweets about sports, dining, and personal stuff, ALL of these tweets are shown under the sports list as well as my timeline. Furthermore, if I create a second list for food/dining and add userA, ALL of the tweets regardless of food or sports will display under both lists. So what would be great is for Twitter to allow the optional specification of one or more hashtags when associating an account with a list, which would indicate tweets from that account should only appear under this list IF these hashtags are part of the tweet. Leon
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Lists Need Optional Hashtag binding with list subscription
I don't think a 3rd party app would work - with Oauth or like a TweetDeck. The searches and updates would do well beyond Twitter limits and impact user's ability to perform other functions. Plus having the hashtags would reduce load on bandwidth anyway, right? Each time you pull this lists that are duplicating tweet results? But I'm listening. How would you see a 3rd party app solving this problem when the lists are filters? Leon From: Chad Etzel c...@twitter.com To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 4:14:58 PM Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Lists Need Optional Hashtag binding with list subscription This sounds like a 3rd party API application opportunity to me... -Chad On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:11 PM, leonspencer spencer_l...@yahoo.com wrote: The new lists are a great way reduce the clutter in timeline. However, I immediately notice management problems with the lists where tweets are duplicate in timeline and list for tweets that have nothing to do with the list. For example, let's say I have a sports list: http://twitter.com/#/list/leonspencer/sports I add userA that tweets about sports. But userA also tweets about food. And being a friend, userA will tweet about personal stuff. If a user tweets about sports, dining, and personal stuff, ALL of these tweets are shown under the sports list as well as my timeline. Furthermore, if I create a second list for food/dining and add userA, ALL of the tweets regardless of food or sports will display under both lists. So what would be great is for Twitter to allow the optional specification of one or more hashtags when associating an account with a list, which would indicate tweets from that account should only appear under this list IF these hashtags are part of the tweet. Leon
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Lists Need Optional Hashtag binding with list subscription
pull the whole list and do the filtering in-memory yourself. It's not a perfect solution, in terms of bandwidth or processing, but there it is. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 17:22, Leon Spencer spencer_l...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't think a 3rd party app would work - with Oauth or like a TweetDeck. The searches and updates would do well beyond Twitter limits and impact user's ability to perform other functions. Plus having the hashtags would reduce load on bandwidth anyway, right? Each time you pull this lists that are duplicating tweet results? But I'm listening. How would you see a 3rd party app solving this problem when the lists are filters? Leon -- *From:* Chad Etzel c...@twitter.com *To:* twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thu, October 29, 2009 4:14:58 PM *Subject:* [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Lists Need Optional Hashtag binding with list subscription This sounds like a 3rd party API application opportunity to me... -Chad On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:11 PM, leonspencer spencer_l...@yahoo.comwrote: The new lists are a great way reduce the clutter in timeline. However, I immediately notice management problems with the lists where tweets are duplicate in timeline and list for tweets that have nothing to do with the list. For example, let's say I have a sports list: http://twitter.com/#/list/leonspencer/sports I add userA that tweets about sports. But userA also tweets about food. And being a friend, userA will tweet about personal stuff. If a user tweets about sports, dining, and personal stuff, ALL of these tweets are shown under the sports list as well as my timeline. Furthermore, if I create a second list for food/dining and add userA, ALL of the tweets regardless of food or sports will display under both lists. So what would be great is for Twitter to allow the optional specification of one or more hashtags when associating an account with a list, which would indicate tweets from that account should only appear under this list IF these hashtags are part of the tweet. Leon -- Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Lists Need Optional Hashtag binding with list subscription
I am more interested in the converse use-case; I would like to tweet about my sporting life only to the sporties list created by me. Is this possible / planned ? (Alright, I will be honest; replace sports with tech for me) On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Chad Etzel c...@twitter.com wrote: This sounds like a 3rd party API application opportunity to me... -Chad On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:11 PM, leonspencer spencer_l...@yahoo.comwrote: The new lists are a great way reduce the clutter in timeline. However, I immediately notice management problems with the lists where tweets are duplicate in timeline and list for tweets that have nothing to do with the list. For example, let's say I have a sports list: http://twitter.com/#/list/leonspencer/sports I add userA that tweets about sports. But userA also tweets about food. And being a friend, userA will tweet about personal stuff. If a user tweets about sports, dining, and personal stuff, ALL of these tweets are shown under the sports list as well as my timeline. Furthermore, if I create a second list for food/dining and add userA, ALL of the tweets regardless of food or sports will display under both lists. So what would be great is for Twitter to allow the optional specification of one or more hashtags when associating an account with a list, which would indicate tweets from that account should only appear under this list IF these hashtags are part of the tweet. Leon -- Harshad RJ http://hrj.wikidot.com
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Lists Need Optional Hashtag binding with list subscription
the only way right now to direct your tweets to a subset of users is to make them protected or to DM users. The whole point of tweeting, so far as I can tell, is to let everyone read it (at least, in the case of public tweets). On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 20:47, Harshad RJ harshad...@gmail.com wrote: I am more interested in the converse use-case; I would like to tweet about my sporting life only to the sporties list created by me. Is this possible / planned ? (Alright, I will be honest; replace sports with tech for me) On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Chad Etzel c...@twitter.com wrote: This sounds like a 3rd party API application opportunity to me... -Chad On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:11 PM, leonspencer spencer_l...@yahoo.comwrote: The new lists are a great way reduce the clutter in timeline. However, I immediately notice management problems with the lists where tweets are duplicate in timeline and list for tweets that have nothing to do with the list. For example, let's say I have a sports list: http://twitter.com/#/list/leonspencer/sports I add userA that tweets about sports. But userA also tweets about food. And being a friend, userA will tweet about personal stuff. If a user tweets about sports, dining, and personal stuff, ALL of these tweets are shown under the sports list as well as my timeline. Furthermore, if I create a second list for food/dining and add userA, ALL of the tweets regardless of food or sports will display under both lists. So what would be great is for Twitter to allow the optional specification of one or more hashtags when associating an account with a list, which would indicate tweets from that account should only appear under this list IF these hashtags are part of the tweet. Leon -- Harshad RJ http://hrj.wikidot.com -- Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Lists Need Optional Hashtag binding with list subscription
If *to tweet* is *to blog*, I am basically looking for blog categories. I was hoping lists might be a way to categorize the tweets. But if there was direct support for categories then both the OP's use-case and mine would be covered. When you follow a person, you could specify which categories to watch. And when a person posts something, she could specify which categories to post under. Uncategorised posts would go to every follower's timeline. The way the lists currently seem to work, I am likely to be bombarded with information even if I follow a small number of lists! On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:28 AM, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: the only way right now to direct your tweets to a subset of users is to make them protected or to DM users. The whole point of tweeting, so far as I can tell, is to let everyone read it (at least, in the case of public tweets). On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 20:47, Harshad RJ harshad...@gmail.com wrote: I am more interested in the converse use-case; I would like to tweet about my sporting life only to the sporties list created by me. Is this possible / planned ? (Alright, I will be honest; replace sports with tech for me) On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Chad Etzel c...@twitter.com wrote: This sounds like a 3rd party API application opportunity to me... -Chad On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:11 PM, leonspencer spencer_l...@yahoo.comwrote: The new lists are a great way reduce the clutter in timeline. However, I immediately notice management problems with the lists where tweets are duplicate in timeline and list for tweets that have nothing to do with the list. For example, let's say I have a sports list: http://twitter.com/#/list/leonspencer/sports I add userA that tweets about sports. But userA also tweets about food. And being a friend, userA will tweet about personal stuff. If a user tweets about sports, dining, and personal stuff, ALL of these tweets are shown under the sports list as well as my timeline. Furthermore, if I create a second list for food/dining and add userA, ALL of the tweets regardless of food or sports will display under both lists. So what would be great is for Twitter to allow the optional specification of one or more hashtags when associating an account with a list, which would indicate tweets from that account should only appear under this list IF these hashtags are part of the tweet. Leon -- Harshad RJ http://hrj.wikidot.com -- Internets. Serious business. -- Harshad RJ http://hrj.wikidot.com
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Lists Need Optional Hashtag binding with list subscription
I doubt I will follow many (or any) lists. But I will scour them periodically for individuals to follow.
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Lists Need Optional Hashtag binding with list subscription
JDG, I appreciate your response. That works if your trying to develop your on separate client/dusplay e.g. TweetDeck. But that doesn't help with updating the list displayed in Twitter. This more of a Twitter.com issue than a Twitter API issue. But I posted here anyway in hopes development would pickup on it. As it stands right now, the Twitter.com lists display is cluttered. We're just moving the clutter from timeline to the multiple lists. And when Twitter API developers go to query these lists from Twitter API, the results don't tell you much about the tweets in the list. Like you said, we'll have to use hashtags and scan the list results. Leon From: JDG ghil...@gmail.com To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 6:02:28 PM Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Lists Need Optional Hashtag binding with list subscription pull the whole list and do the filtering in-memory yourself. It's not a perfect solution, in terms of bandwidth or processing, but there it is. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 17:22, Leon Spencer spencer_l...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't think a 3rd party app would work - with Oauth or like a TweetDeck. The searches and updates would do well beyond Twitter limits and impact user's ability to perform other functions. Plus having the hashtags would reduce load on bandwidth anyway, right? Each time you pull this lists that are duplicating tweet results? But I'm listening. How would you see a 3rd party app solving this problem when the lists are filters? Leon
[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Lists Need Optional Hashtag binding with list subscription
Cool. Don't get me wrong. I think the lists are great for indirectly following people. I don't know how this impacts follower limits given on Twitter.com you don't have to follow someone to add them to one of your lists. And like you I don't use list to follow people. I mainly use them to free-up the friends timeline and group specialized tweets. From: Dave Briccetti da...@davebsoft.com To: Twitter Development Talk twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 9:32:27 PM Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Lists Need Optional Hashtag binding with list subscription I doubt I will follow many (or any) lists. But I will scour them periodically for individuals to follow.
