Re: [twitter-dev] Re: [twitter-api-announce] Announcing Site Streams Beta

2010-09-01 Thread John Kalucki
I made a minor change to see if it will flush the cache. The policy is, as of 9/1/2010: During the beta testing period, sites are encouraged to first pull and cross-check test data from both Site Streams and the REST API to develop confidence in correctness and robustness. Once a Site Streams

[twitter-dev] Re: [twitter-api-announce] Announcing Site Streams Beta

2010-08-30 Thread Jesse Stay
Freakin' awesome. Nice job guys! Jesse On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Mark McBride mmcbr...@twitter.com wrote: Site Streams, a new feature on the Streaming API, is now available for beta testing. Site Streams allows services, such as web sites or mobile push services, to receive real-time

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: [twitter-api-announce] Announcing Site Streams Beta

2010-08-30 Thread Tom van der Woerdt
My initial thought was that this was for applications like TweetDeck where users have multiple accounts, but the docs say that Desktop clients should keep using the normal User Streams. Will there be an update for the User Streams to support having multiple accounts, are the docs wrong, or do you

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: [twitter-api-announce] Announcing Site Streams Beta

2010-08-30 Thread John Kalucki
Desktop clients that support multiple accounts should continue to open multiple connections on User Streams. -John Kalucki http://twitter.com/jkalucki Twitter, Inc. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Tom van der Woerdt i...@tvdw.eu wrote: My initial thought was that this was for applications

[twitter-dev] Re: [twitter-api-announce] Announcing Site Streams Beta

2010-08-30 Thread Dewald Pretorius
This is super news. However, if you're going to force web services to use Site Streams when it is in production (sites must only use the REST API for data that is not available through User Streams), then please add the ability to subscribe only to certain elements. For example, we need the

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: [twitter-api-announce] Announcing Site Streams Beta

2010-08-30 Thread John Kalucki
We're not forcing people over to Site Streams. If, on the other hand, if you start to consume Site Streams, we want you to stop regular polling on the REST API. If your service is modest, any excess delivery will be modest. Excessive options add complexity and slow development for what may be

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: [twitter-api-announce] Announcing Site Streams Beta

2010-08-30 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Quoting Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com: Here's another issue that probably needs to be considered. It applies mostly to DMs, because people will tend to use DMs for sensitive information, and would expect a certain level of privacy. Right now, an OAuth authorized site can query a user's

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: [twitter-api-announce] Announcing Site Streams Beta

2010-08-30 Thread John Kalucki
Thanks. I've clarified the language. -John On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: John, Perhaps you should then rephrase the following at http://bit.ly/sitestream_doc One Site Streams graduates to production, sites must only use the REST API for data

[twitter-dev] Re: [twitter-api-announce] Announcing Site Streams Beta

2010-08-30 Thread Dewald Pretorius
John, Is that page cached, because the third sentence of the first bullet under Important Items still says *exactly* the same? On Aug 30, 5:15 pm, John Kalucki j...@twitter.com wrote: Thanks. I've clarified the language. -John On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Dewald Pretorius

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: [twitter-api-announce] Announcing Site Streams Beta

2010-08-30 Thread John Kalucki
It's cached. It'll update via a process that is mysterious to me. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: John, Is that page cached, because the third sentence of the first bullet under Important Items still says *exactly* the same? On Aug 30, 5:15 pm,

[twitter-dev] Re: [twitter-api-announce] Announcing Site Streams Beta

2010-08-30 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Ed, Developer responsibilities and developer agreements mean absolutely nothing to that person who wants to abuse users' DMs. In fact, they will probably trick users to authorize their app with a neat feature, and then in the background collect received and sent DMs. Twitter will not have the

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: [twitter-api-announce] Announcing Site Streams Beta

2010-08-30 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Try getting access to Site Streams without a signed agreement between your organization and Twitter prohibiting such shenanigans. ;-) -- M. Edward (Ed) Borasky http://borasky-research.net http://twitter.com/znmeb A mathematician is a device for turning coffee into theorems. - Paul Erdos

[twitter-dev] Re: [twitter-api-announce] Announcing Site Streams Beta

2010-08-30 Thread Dewald Pretorius
I think you're missing my point. A signed agreement does not prevent anything for the evil-minded. At best it establishes the parameters for damage control by Twitter (revoking access, banning, etc.), except in this case Twitter won't have the forensics to determine who did the damage. On Aug 30,