[twitter-dev] Re: Fun140 and Truetwit developers
I think that should be standard. Opt in only (put in Twitter TOS) On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Aaron Brazell emmenset...@gmail.com wrote: I'm assuming whoever the developer is behind these two sites is also on this list. There is a lot of concern among twiytter users about your apps sending auto dms to people. It's perceived as abusive and spammy and I agree. After getting a tweaked toucan in my DM inbox, I wonder why I have to put up with this. Unfortunately, unlike Facebook, users can't opt out of these spammy things. I've asked Twitter to look into your apps, but I'm also making a personal plea to figure out another way of doing this and allowing people to opt out of messages from your apps. Or better yet, opt in. -- Aaron Brazell web:: www.technosailor.com phone:: 410-608-6620 skype:: technosailor twitter:: @technosailor -- Dale Merritt Fol.la MeDia, LLC
[twitter-dev] Re: Fun140 and Truetwit developers
Agreed. These things have to stop. On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Dale Merritt mogul...@gmail.com wrote: I think that should be standard. Opt in only (put in Twitter TOS) On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Aaron Brazell emmenset...@gmail.comwrote: I'm assuming whoever the developer is behind these two sites is also on this list. There is a lot of concern among twiytter users about your apps sending auto dms to people. It's perceived as abusive and spammy and I agree. After getting a tweaked toucan in my DM inbox, I wonder why I have to put up with this. Unfortunately, unlike Facebook, users can't opt out of these spammy things. I've asked Twitter to look into your apps, but I'm also making a personal plea to figure out another way of doing this and allowing people to opt out of messages from your apps. Or better yet, opt in. -- Aaron Brazell web:: www.technosailor.com phone:: 410-608-6620 skype:: technosailor twitter:: @technosailor -- Dale Merritt Fol.la MeDia, LLC
[twitter-dev] Re: Fun140 and Truetwit developers
While I laud them for what is obviously a successful campaign, this is getting a little ridiculous... http://screencast.com/t/XB7jPjnBWlr On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Jesse Stay jesses...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. These things have to stop. On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Dale Merritt mogul...@gmail.com wrote: I think that should be standard. Opt in only (put in Twitter TOS) On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Aaron Brazell emmenset...@gmail.comwrote: I'm assuming whoever the developer is behind these two sites is also on this list. There is a lot of concern among twiytter users about your apps sending auto dms to people. It's perceived as abusive and spammy and I agree. After getting a tweaked toucan in my DM inbox, I wonder why I have to put up with this. Unfortunately, unlike Facebook, users can't opt out of these spammy things. I've asked Twitter to look into your apps, but I'm also making a personal plea to figure out another way of doing this and allowing people to opt out of messages from your apps. Or better yet, opt in. -- Aaron Brazell web:: www.technosailor.com phone:: 410-608-6620 skype:: technosailor twitter:: @technosailor -- Dale Merritt Fol.la MeDia, LLC -- Kevin Mesiab CEO, Mesiab Labs L.L.C. http://twitter.com/kmesiab http://mesiablabs.com http://retweet.com
[twitter-dev] Re: Fun140 and Truetwit developers
On 8/2/09 10:47 AM, Aaron Brazell wrote: I've asked Twitter to look into your apps, but I'm also making a personal plea to figure out another way of doing this and allowing people to opt out of messages from your apps. Or better yet, opt in. You opt out by unfollowing whomever DM's you. Didn't we have this exact discussion on this very list no more than 3 months ago? -- Dossy Shiobara | do...@panoptic.com | http://dossy.org/ Panoptic Computer Network | http://panoptic.com/ He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on. (p. 70)
[twitter-dev] Re: Fun140 and Truetwit developers
I don't get why people are so uptight about direct messages. If you aren't getting value from following someone...or having someone following you - then unsubscribe. FFS the only issue is for people who want to inflate their numbers by having a 'huge' following number. Regards, Dean Collins www.MyTwitterButler.com -Original Message- From: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com [mailto:twitter-development-t...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dossy Shiobara Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:07 PM To: twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Subject: [twitter-dev] Re: Fun140 and Truetwit developers On 8/2/09 10:47 AM, Aaron Brazell wrote: I've asked Twitter to look into your apps, but I'm also making a personal plea to figure out another way of doing this and allowing people to opt out of messages from your apps. Or better yet, opt in. You opt out by unfollowing whomever DM's you. Didn't we have this exact discussion on this very list no more than 3 months ago? -- Dossy Shiobara | do...@panoptic.com | http://dossy.org/ Panoptic Computer Network | http://panoptic.com/ He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on. (p. 70)
[twitter-dev] Re: Fun140 and Truetwit developers
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Dossy Shiobara do...@panoptic.com wrote: You opt out by unfollowing whomever DM's you. Didn't we have this exact discussion on this very list no more than 3 months ago? If it was just me, then I would. Sometimes the people are people I want to follow or are friends that have tried these things out and ended up sending requests inadvertently. It's not fair to penalize the user for that. On the other hand, it's clearly not just me as the responses have already shown. It's clearly something that is much more abusive. -- Aaron Brazell web:: www.technosailor.com phone:: 410-608-6620 skype:: technosailor twitter:: @technosailor
[twitter-dev] Re: Fun140 and Truetwit developers
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Dean Collins d...@cognation.net wrote: I don't get why people are so uptight about direct messages. If you aren't getting value from following someone...or having someone following you - then unsubscribe. FFS the only issue is for people who want to inflate their numbers by having a 'huge' following number. Everyone has their reasons and it's not the role of this list to question users motives. However, it is the role of this list to bring up issues of quality and QA in general, among other things. -- Aaron Brazell web:: www.technosailor.com phone:: 410-608-6620 skype:: technosailor twitter:: @technosailor
[twitter-dev] Re: Fun140 and Truetwit developers
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Aaron Brazell emmenset...@gmail.comwrote: I'm assuming whoever the developer is behind these two sites is also on this list. There is a lot of concern among twiytter users about your apps sending auto dms to people. It's perceived as abusive and spammy and I agree. After getting a tweaked toucan in my DM inbox, I wonder why I have to put up with this. Unfortunately, unlike Facebook, users can't opt out of these spammy things. I've asked Twitter to look into your apps, but I'm also making a personal plea to figure out another way of doing this and allowing people to opt out of messages from your apps. Or better yet, opt in. -- Aaron Brazell web:: www.technosailor.com phone:: 410-608-6620 skype:: technosailor twitter:: @technosailor I think AutoDMs are obnoxious except in a few extremely rare cases. TrueTwit is one of them. You only incur a DM by following someone who wishes to verify the sincerity of your follow, the intent of your follow. Don't like it? Don't follow. Want to cry me a river? Either follow less or suck it up. I'm much more responsive to new, verified followers than I have been to any given new follow in many, many spam-filled months now. I'm tired of seeing twitter email notifications about spambots and bambibots following me. I'd rather you [random person] be irked as a consequence of following me than me be irked sometimes dozens of times a day by bambi spam. Are you following me because you have genuine interest and want to have a conversation? Excellent, then I'm sure the slightly raised barrier of entry won't be a problem for you. TrueTwit is the most valuable, useful, awesome Twitter third-party app I've seen in months. Maybe ever. Thanks- - Andy Badera - and...@badera.us - Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera - This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private
[twitter-dev] Re: Fun140 and Truetwit developers
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Andrew Baderaand...@badera.us wrote: TrueTwit is the most valuable, useful, awesome Twitter third-party app I've seen in months. Maybe ever. I particularly love how all you have to do is see one TrueTwit DM, go sign up for TrueTwit yourself, and stop getting those messages ever again! You can follow all the people you want, and you're auto-verified. I got two of those TrueTwit messages when I was auto-following people through Twollo, and just signed up myself. Now I don't get them anymore! Wait... how does that stop spammers, again? It looks like it may just add the step sign up at TrueTwit to the account creation process before you hook up your spambot to the account. Worthless, if you ask me.
[twitter-dev] Re: Fun140 and Truetwit developers
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Caliban Darklock cdarkl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Andrew Baderaand...@badera.us wrote: TrueTwit is the most valuable, useful, awesome Twitter third-party app I've seen in months. Maybe ever. I particularly love how all you have to do is see one TrueTwit DM, go sign up for TrueTwit yourself, and stop getting those messages ever again! You can follow all the people you want, and you're auto-verified. I got two of those TrueTwit messages when I was auto-following people through Twollo, and just signed up myself. Now I don't get them anymore! Wait... how does that stop spammers, again? It looks like it may just add the step sign up at TrueTwit to the account creation process before you hook up your spambot to the account. Worthless, if you ask me. Interesting, I was unaware of that mechanism. (Goes to show you how often I follow these days I guess ... ) That does put a different spin on it. I'd like to see that go away, and then my point stands. --ab
[twitter-dev] Re: Fun140 and Truetwit developers
Agree that seems like a big hole for bot creators to get by the system. On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Caliban Darklock cdarkl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Andrew Baderaand...@badera.us wrote: TrueTwit is the most valuable, useful, awesome Twitter third-party app I've seen in months. Maybe ever. I particularly love how all you have to do is see one TrueTwit DM, go sign up for TrueTwit yourself, and stop getting those messages ever again! You can follow all the people you want, and you're auto-verified. I got two of those TrueTwit messages when I was auto-following people through Twollo, and just signed up myself. Now I don't get them anymore! Wait... how does that stop spammers, again? It looks like it may just add the step sign up at TrueTwit to the account creation process before you hook up your spambot to the account. Worthless, if you ask me. -- Josh
