Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Possibility to link to the user page not by the name but by the id.

2010-01-31 Thread Michael Steuer
If user  is no longer the same user as the one that posted status  
id , then the link  http://twitter.com//statuses/ would no  
longer be valid (as the NEW user  is not the owner of the status  
id).




On Jan 30, 2010, at 11:40 PM, Ivan Glushkov gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:


Actually i can't.
For example, i get some link like
http://twitter.com/AAA/statuses/11, for the message that was
posted month ago. I can't be sure if the current user AAA has the same
guid as the AAA month ago.
If i had the link like http://twitter.com/redirect?id=111status=222 i
would be sure that it's the same user and the same status for that
user.

Ivan.


On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Michael Ivey  
michael.i...@gmail.com wrote:
You could do this internally in your application, using statuses/ 
show to

make sure you have the correct user info before redirecting.
 -- ivey


On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:06 AM, Ivan Glushkov gli.w...@gmail.com  
wrote:


Oh, thanks, Abraham! That's great!

But why isn't it documented anywhere?
And is there any way to redirect to some status of this user?
I mean smth like
http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992status=3
???

Thanks once more,
Ivan.


On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com 


wrote:

Actually Twitter does support it.
http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992
Abraham

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 06:42, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi.

I don't need an application that is able to handle this. Instead i
need changes in the twitter API so i can refer to the users and  
their
statuses using the user id, not the username. This is a problem  
for
the aggregator, and there users (so it become also a problem for  
the

twitter users).

Is there any plan in this direction?

Ivan.


On 21 янв, 06:03, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:

I remember this topic coming up before and it seems like someone
built
an
application that handled this but I can't find any references  
to it.

Maybe
somebody else can?

Abraham



On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:29, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi.



I tried to find the similar question here (in google groups), in
the
FAQ and in the API, but couldn't find anything.



The problem:
Cross-posting the links to the user page and to some his  
statuses

in
the web become more and more popular. But, as i understood, you
can't
guarantee that this links not long after would not change the
logical
destination. For example I create some post about some twitter- 
user

aaa and give the link twitter.com/aaa
After that user “aaa” changed name to bbb and user dd 
d changed
name to aaa. So my old link now points to the different  
person.



This problem becomes more serious for the aggregators that don't
know
what content they might approve after a while.


The simplest decision would be providing the possibility to  
link to

the user not by name but also by id. That pages might be just
redirections to the original user pages, it doesn't matter.



For example
if the user “aaa” have id 11, the following two link 
s should

point
to the same page:
twitter.com/aaa and twitter.com/id/11



This mechanism should also be applied for the statuses:
twitter.com/id/11/statuses/22



Ivan.


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Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Possibility to link to the user page not by the name but by the id.

2010-01-31 Thread Ivan Glushkov
Oh, no!
I haven't found it!
I added comment in my issue that it's duplicate, but i don't know how
to close it.


On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Argh!

 I opened such a feature request late last November AND you commented
 on it late last December.

 See http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=1242 .

 On Jan 30, 11:17 am, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 There does not appear to be. You could open an feature request and maybe
 Twitter will augment ithttp://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/entry.

 Abraham





 On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 02:06, Ivan Glushkov gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
  Oh, thanks, Abraham! That's great!

  But why isn't it documented anywhere?
  And is there any way to redirect to some status of this user?
  I mean smth like
 http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992status=3
  ???

  Thanks once more,
  Ivan.

  On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Actually Twitter does support it.
  http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992
   Abraham

   On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 06:42, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi.

   I don't need an application that is able to handle this. Instead i
   need changes in the twitter API so i can refer to the users and their
   statuses using the user id, not the username. This is a problem for
   the aggregator, and there users (so it become also a problem for the
   twitter users).

   Is there any plan in this direction?

   Ivan.

   On 21 янв, 06:03, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
I remember this topic coming up before and it seems like someone built
an
application that handled this but I can't find any references to it.
Maybe
somebody else can?

Abraham

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:29, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.

 I tried to find the similar question here (in google groups), in the
 FAQ and in the API, but couldn't find anything.

 The problem:
 Cross-posting the links to the user page and to some his statuses in
 the web become more and more popular. But, as i understood, you
  can't
 guarantee that this links not long after would not change the
  logical
 destination. For example I create some post about some twitter-user
 aaa and give the link twitter.com/aaa
 After that user “aaa” changed name to bbb and user ddd changed
 name to aaa. So my old link now points to the different person.

 This problem becomes more serious for the aggregators that don't
  know
 what content they might approve after a while.

 The simplest decision would be providing the possibility to link to
 the user not by name but also by id. That pages might be just
 redirections to the original user pages, it doesn't matter.

 For example
 if the user “aaa” have id 11, the following two links should
  point
 to the same page:
 twitter.com/aaa and twitter.com/id/11

 This mechanism should also be applied for the statuses:
 twitter.com/id/11/statuses/22

 Ivan.

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Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Possibility to link to the user page not by the name but by the id.

2010-01-31 Thread Kevin Marshall
I would also argue that, at the time of status  whomever owned the
 account was the one that actually made the post...so it doesn't
really matter who is controlling  right now...they are associated
with the history of the account, because, well it's a history.

As an aside though, is there really that much username changing going
on?  I would think it's more likely an account goes idle or dead than
gets transferred to another user...and for the most part this feels
like a discussion about designing a system to scale to handle a
kabillion users when it's not even clear yet if 10 users would
actually use the service...

Don't sweat the edge cases so much, fear will paralyze you...it's
better to be 'completely broken' for a small percentage of people than
to not exist for anyone...

Just my two cents ;-)

- Kevin

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Michael Steuer mste...@gmail.com wrote:
 If user  is no longer the same user as the one that posted status id
 , then the link  http://twitter.com//statuses/ would no longer
 be valid (as the NEW user  is not the owner of the status id).



 On Jan 30, 2010, at 11:40 PM, Ivan Glushkov gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually i can't.
 For example, i get some link like
 http://twitter.com/AAA/statuses/11, for the message that was
 posted month ago. I can't be sure if the current user AAA has the same
 guid as the AAA month ago.
 If i had the link like http://twitter.com/redirect?id=111status=222 i
 would be sure that it's the same user and the same status for that
 user.

 Ivan.


 On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Michael Ivey michael.i...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 You could do this internally in your application, using statuses/show to
 make sure you have the correct user info before redirecting.
  -- ivey


 On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:06 AM, Ivan Glushkov gli.w...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Oh, thanks, Abraham! That's great!

 But why isn't it documented anywhere?
 And is there any way to redirect to some status of this user?
 I mean smth like
 http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992status=3
 ???

 Thanks once more,
 Ivan.


 On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Actually Twitter does support it.
 http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992
 Abraham

 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 06:42, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.

 I don't need an application that is able to handle this. Instead i
 need changes in the twitter API so i can refer to the users and their
 statuses using the user id, not the username. This is a problem for
 the aggregator, and there users (so it become also a problem for the
 twitter users).

 Is there any plan in this direction?

 Ivan.


 On 21 янв, 06:03, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:

 I remember this topic coming up before and it seems like someone
 built
 an
 application that handled this but I can't find any references to it.
 Maybe
 somebody else can?

 Abraham



 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:29, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.

 I tried to find the similar question here (in google groups), in
 the
 FAQ and in the API, but couldn't find anything.

 The problem:
 Cross-posting the links to the user page and to some his statuses
 in
 the web become more and more popular. But, as i understood, you
 can't
 guarantee that this links not long after would not change the
 logical
 destination. For example I create some post about some twitter-user
 aaa and give the link twitter.com/aaa
 After that user “aaa” changed name to bbb and user ddd changed
 name to aaa. So my old link now points to the different person.

 This problem becomes more serious for the aggregators that don't
 know
 what content they might approve after a while.

 The simplest decision would be providing the possibility to link to
 the user not by name but also by id. That pages might be just
 redirections to the original user pages, it doesn't matter.

 For example
 if the user “aaa” have id 11, the following two links should
 point
 to the same page:
 twitter.com/aaa and twitter.com/id/11

 This mechanism should also be applied for the statuses:
 twitter.com/id/11/statuses/22

 Ivan.

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Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Possibility to link to the user page not by the name but by the id.

2010-01-31 Thread Ivan Glushkov
Yeap. But.
1. I have incorrect URL, that i can't use immediately. I mean for the
every URL i can't be sure that guid is not changed for this username,
so i can't be sure that every URL is correct. So for each URL
2. I have to find out the correct link with the help of
3. One or several request to the twitter API
4. If that URL is already in my database, i have to replace it with
the new one, or better search for all records with this URL and
replace old URL with the new one.

It's unacceptable price for the absence of just one additional (and
very chip for the twitter) functionality in the API.

Ivan.


On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Michael Steuer mste...@gmail.com wrote:
 If user  is no longer the same user as the one that posted status id
 , then the link  http://twitter.com//statuses/ would no longer
 be valid (as the NEW user  is not the owner of the status id).



 On Jan 30, 2010, at 11:40 PM, Ivan Glushkov gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually i can't.
 For example, i get some link like
 http://twitter.com/AAA/statuses/11, for the message that was
 posted month ago. I can't be sure if the current user AAA has the same
 guid as the AAA month ago.
 If i had the link like http://twitter.com/redirect?id=111status=222 i
 would be sure that it's the same user and the same status for that
 user.

 Ivan.


 On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Michael Ivey michael.i...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 You could do this internally in your application, using statuses/show to
 make sure you have the correct user info before redirecting.
  -- ivey


 On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:06 AM, Ivan Glushkov gli.w...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Oh, thanks, Abraham! That's great!

 But why isn't it documented anywhere?
 And is there any way to redirect to some status of this user?
 I mean smth like
 http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992status=3
 ???

 Thanks once more,
 Ivan.


 On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Actually Twitter does support it.
 http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992
 Abraham

 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 06:42, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.

 I don't need an application that is able to handle this. Instead i
 need changes in the twitter API so i can refer to the users and their
 statuses using the user id, not the username. This is a problem for
 the aggregator, and there users (so it become also a problem for the
 twitter users).

 Is there any plan in this direction?

 Ivan.


 On 21 янв, 06:03, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:

 I remember this topic coming up before and it seems like someone
 built
 an
 application that handled this but I can't find any references to it.
 Maybe
 somebody else can?

 Abraham



 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:29, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.

 I tried to find the similar question here (in google groups), in
 the
 FAQ and in the API, but couldn't find anything.

 The problem:
 Cross-posting the links to the user page and to some his statuses
 in
 the web become more and more popular. But, as i understood, you
 can't
 guarantee that this links not long after would not change the
 logical
 destination. For example I create some post about some twitter-user
 aaa and give the link twitter.com/aaa
 After that user “aaa” changed name to bbb and user ddd changed
 name to aaa. So my old link now points to the different person.

 This problem becomes more serious for the aggregators that don't
 know
 what content they might approve after a while.

 The simplest decision would be providing the possibility to link to
 the user not by name but also by id. That pages might be just
 redirections to the original user pages, it doesn't matter.

 For example
 if the user “aaa” have id 11, the following two links should
 point
 to the same page:
 twitter.com/aaa and twitter.com/id/11

 This mechanism should also be applied for the statuses:
 twitter.com/id/11/statuses/22

 Ivan.

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[twitter-dev] Re: Possibility to link to the user page not by the name but by the id.

2010-01-31 Thread Andy Freeman
I starred 1412 and commented on 1242 that they're basically the same.

On Jan 30, 11:46 pm, Ivan Glushkov gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh, no!
 I haven't found it!
 I added comment in my issue that it's duplicate, but i don't know how
 to close it.



 On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote:
  Argh!

  I opened such a feature request late last November AND you commented
  on it late last December.

  Seehttp://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=1242.

  On Jan 30, 11:17 am, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
  There does not appear to be. You could open an feature request and maybe
  Twitter will augment ithttp://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/entry.

  Abraham

  On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 02:06, Ivan Glushkov gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
   Oh, thanks, Abraham! That's great!

   But why isn't it documented anywhere?
   And is there any way to redirect to some status of this user?
   I mean smth like
  http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992status=3
   ???

   Thanks once more,
   Ivan.

   On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com
   wrote:
Actually Twitter does support it.
   http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992
Abraham

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 06:42, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi.

I don't need an application that is able to handle this. Instead i
need changes in the twitter API so i can refer to the users and their
statuses using the user id, not the username. This is a problem for
the aggregator, and there users (so it become also a problem for the
twitter users).

Is there any plan in this direction?

Ivan.

On 21 янв, 06:03, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 I remember this topic coming up before and it seems like someone 
 built
 an
 application that handled this but I can't find any references to it.
 Maybe
 somebody else can?

 Abraham

 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:29, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi.

  I tried to find the similar question here (in google groups), in 
  the
  FAQ and in the API, but couldn't find anything.

  The problem:
  Cross-posting the links to the user page and to some his statuses 
  in
  the web become more and more popular. But, as i understood, you
   can't
  guarantee that this links not long after would not change the
   logical
  destination. For example I create some post about some 
  twitter-user
  aaa and give the link twitter.com/aaa
  After that user “aaa” changed name to bbb and user ddd changed
  name to aaa. So my old link now points to the different person.

  This problem becomes more serious for the aggregators that don't
   know
  what content they might approve after a while.

  The simplest decision would be providing the possibility to link 
  to
  the user not by name but also by id. That pages might be just
  redirections to the original user pages, it doesn't matter.

  For example
  if the user “aaa” have id 11, the following two links should
   point
  to the same page:
  twitter.com/aaa and twitter.com/id/11

  This mechanism should also be applied for the statuses:
  twitter.com/id/11/statuses/22

  Ivan.

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Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Possibility to link to the user page not by the name but by the id.

2010-01-30 Thread Ivan Glushkov
Oh, thanks, Abraham! That's great!

But why isn't it documented anywhere?
And is there any way to redirect to some status of this user?
I mean smth like
http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992status=3
???

Thanks once more,
Ivan.


On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Actually Twitter does support it.
 http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992
 Abraham

 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 06:42, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.

 I don't need an application that is able to handle this. Instead i
 need changes in the twitter API so i can refer to the users and their
 statuses using the user id, not the username. This is a problem for
 the aggregator, and there users (so it become also a problem for the
 twitter users).

 Is there any plan in this direction?

 Ivan.


 On 21 янв, 06:03, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
  I remember this topic coming up before and it seems like someone built
  an
  application that handled this but I can't find any references to it.
  Maybe
  somebody else can?
 
  Abraham
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:29, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi.
 
   I tried to find the similar question here (in google groups), in the
   FAQ and in the API, but couldn't find anything.
 
   The problem:
   Cross-posting the links to the user page and to some his statuses in
   the web become more and more popular. But, as i understood, you can't
   guarantee that this links not long after would not change the logical
   destination. For example I create some post about some twitter-user
   aaa and give the link twitter.com/aaa
   After that user “aaa” changed name to bbb and user ddd changed
   name to aaa. So my old link now points to the different person.
 
   This problem becomes more serious for the aggregators that don't know
   what content they might approve after a while.
 
   The simplest decision would be providing the possibility to link to
   the user not by name but also by id. That pages might be just
   redirections to the original user pages, it doesn't matter.
 
   For example
   if the user “aaa” have id 11, the following two links should point
   to the same page:
   twitter.com/aaa and twitter.com/id/11
 
   This mechanism should also be applied for the statuses:
   twitter.com/id/11/statuses/22
 
   Ivan.
 
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Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Possibility to link to the user page not by the name but by the id.

2010-01-30 Thread Abraham Williams
There does not appear to be. You could open an feature request and maybe
Twitter will augment it http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/entry.

Abraham

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 02:06, Ivan Glushkov gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, thanks, Abraham! That's great!

 But why isn't it documented anywhere?
 And is there any way to redirect to some status of this user?
 I mean smth like
 http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992status=3
 ???

 Thanks once more,
 Ivan.


 On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Actually Twitter does support it.
  http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992
  Abraham
 
  On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 06:42, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi.
 
  I don't need an application that is able to handle this. Instead i
  need changes in the twitter API so i can refer to the users and their
  statuses using the user id, not the username. This is a problem for
  the aggregator, and there users (so it become also a problem for the
  twitter users).
 
  Is there any plan in this direction?
 
  Ivan.
 
 
  On 21 янв, 06:03, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
   I remember this topic coming up before and it seems like someone built
   an
   application that handled this but I can't find any references to it.
   Maybe
   somebody else can?
  
   Abraham
  
  
  
   On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:29, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi.
  
I tried to find the similar question here (in google groups), in the
FAQ and in the API, but couldn't find anything.
  
The problem:
Cross-posting the links to the user page and to some his statuses in
the web become more and more popular. But, as i understood, you
 can't
guarantee that this links not long after would not change the
 logical
destination. For example I create some post about some twitter-user
aaa and give the link twitter.com/aaa
After that user “aaa” changed name to bbb and user ddd changed
name to aaa. So my old link now points to the different person.
  
This problem becomes more serious for the aggregators that don't
 know
what content they might approve after a while.
  
The simplest decision would be providing the possibility to link to
the user not by name but also by id. That pages might be just
redirections to the original user pages, it doesn't matter.
  
For example
if the user “aaa” have id 11, the following two links should
 point
to the same page:
twitter.com/aaa and twitter.com/id/11
  
This mechanism should also be applied for the statuses:
twitter.com/id/11/statuses/22
  
Ivan.
  
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[twitter-dev] Re: Possibility to link to the user page not by the name but by the id.

2010-01-30 Thread Andy Freeman
Argh!

I opened such a feature request late last November AND you commented
on it late last December.

See http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=1242 .

On Jan 30, 11:17 am, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 There does not appear to be. You could open an feature request and maybe
 Twitter will augment ithttp://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/entry.

 Abraham





 On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 02:06, Ivan Glushkov gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
  Oh, thanks, Abraham! That's great!

  But why isn't it documented anywhere?
  And is there any way to redirect to some status of this user?
  I mean smth like
 http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992status=3
  ???

  Thanks once more,
  Ivan.

  On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Actually Twitter does support it.
  http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992
   Abraham

   On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 06:42, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi.

   I don't need an application that is able to handle this. Instead i
   need changes in the twitter API so i can refer to the users and their
   statuses using the user id, not the username. This is a problem for
   the aggregator, and there users (so it become also a problem for the
   twitter users).

   Is there any plan in this direction?

   Ivan.

   On 21 янв, 06:03, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
I remember this topic coming up before and it seems like someone built
an
application that handled this but I can't find any references to it.
Maybe
somebody else can?

Abraham

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:29, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.

 I tried to find the similar question here (in google groups), in the
 FAQ and in the API, but couldn't find anything.

 The problem:
 Cross-posting the links to the user page and to some his statuses in
 the web become more and more popular. But, as i understood, you
  can't
 guarantee that this links not long after would not change the
  logical
 destination. For example I create some post about some twitter-user
 aaa and give the link twitter.com/aaa
 After that user “aaa” changed name to bbb and user ddd changed
 name to aaa. So my old link now points to the different person.

 This problem becomes more serious for the aggregators that don't
  know
 what content they might approve after a while.

 The simplest decision would be providing the possibility to link to
 the user not by name but also by id. That pages might be just
 redirections to the original user pages, it doesn't matter.

 For example
 if the user “aaa” have id 11, the following two links should
  point
 to the same page:
 twitter.com/aaa and twitter.com/id/11

 This mechanism should also be applied for the statuses:
 twitter.com/id/11/statuses/22

 Ivan.

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Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Possibility to link to the user page not by the name but by the id.

2010-01-30 Thread Michael Ivey
You could do this internally in your application, using statuses/show to
make sure you have the correct user info before redirecting.

 -- ivey


On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:06 AM, Ivan Glushkov gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, thanks, Abraham! That's great!

 But why isn't it documented anywhere?
 And is there any way to redirect to some status of this user?
 I mean smth like
 http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992status=3
 ???

 Thanks once more,
 Ivan.


 On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Actually Twitter does support it.
  http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992
  Abraham
 
  On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 06:42, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi.
 
  I don't need an application that is able to handle this. Instead i
  need changes in the twitter API so i can refer to the users and their
  statuses using the user id, not the username. This is a problem for
  the aggregator, and there users (so it become also a problem for the
  twitter users).
 
  Is there any plan in this direction?
 
  Ivan.
 
 
  On 21 янв, 06:03, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
   I remember this topic coming up before and it seems like someone built
   an
   application that handled this but I can't find any references to it.
   Maybe
   somebody else can?
  
   Abraham
  
  
  
   On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:29, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi.
  
I tried to find the similar question here (in google groups), in the
FAQ and in the API, but couldn't find anything.
  
The problem:
Cross-posting the links to the user page and to some his statuses in
the web become more and more popular. But, as i understood, you
 can't
guarantee that this links not long after would not change the
 logical
destination. For example I create some post about some twitter-user
aaa and give the link twitter.com/aaa
After that user “aaa” changed name to bbb and user ddd changed
name to aaa. So my old link now points to the different person.
  
This problem becomes more serious for the aggregators that don't
 know
what content they might approve after a while.
  
The simplest decision would be providing the possibility to link to
the user not by name but also by id. That pages might be just
redirections to the original user pages, it doesn't matter.
  
For example
if the user “aaa” have id 11, the following two links should
 point
to the same page:
twitter.com/aaa and twitter.com/id/11
  
This mechanism should also be applied for the statuses:
twitter.com/id/11/statuses/22
  
Ivan.
  
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Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Possibility to link to the user page not by the name but by the id.

2010-01-30 Thread Ivan Glushkov
Thanks a lot, Abraham!
I've created it.
http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=1412

Ivan.

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 There does not appear to be. You could open an feature request and maybe
 Twitter will augment it http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/entry.
 Abraham

 On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 02:06, Ivan Glushkov gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, thanks, Abraham! That's great!

 But why isn't it documented anywhere?
 And is there any way to redirect to some status of this user?
 I mean smth like
 http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992status=3
 ???

 Thanks once more,
 Ivan.


 On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Actually Twitter does support it.
  http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992
  Abraham
 
  On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 06:42, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi.
 
  I don't need an application that is able to handle this. Instead i
  need changes in the twitter API so i can refer to the users and their
  statuses using the user id, not the username. This is a problem for
  the aggregator, and there users (so it become also a problem for the
  twitter users).
 
  Is there any plan in this direction?
 
  Ivan.
 
 
  On 21 янв, 06:03, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
   I remember this topic coming up before and it seems like someone
   built
   an
   application that handled this but I can't find any references to it.
   Maybe
   somebody else can?
  
   Abraham
  
  
  
   On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:29, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi.
  
I tried to find the similar question here (in google groups), in
the
FAQ and in the API, but couldn't find anything.
  
The problem:
Cross-posting the links to the user page and to some his statuses
in
the web become more and more popular. But, as i understood, you
can't
guarantee that this links not long after would not change the
logical
destination. For example I create some post about some twitter-user
aaa and give the link twitter.com/aaa
After that user “aaa” changed name to bbb and user ddd changed
name to aaa. So my old link now points to the different person.
  
This problem becomes more serious for the aggregators that don't
know
what content they might approve after a while.
  
The simplest decision would be providing the possibility to link to
the user not by name but also by id. That pages might be just
redirections to the original user pages, it doesn't matter.
  
For example
if the user “aaa” have id 11, the following two links should
point
to the same page:
twitter.com/aaa and twitter.com/id/11
  
This mechanism should also be applied for the statuses:
twitter.com/id/11/statuses/22
  
Ivan.
  
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Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Possibility to link to the user page not by the name but by the id.

2010-01-30 Thread Ivan Glushkov
Actually i can't.
For example, i get some link like
http://twitter.com/AAA/statuses/11, for the message that was
posted month ago. I can't be sure if the current user AAA has the same
guid as the AAA month ago.
If i had the link like http://twitter.com/redirect?id=111status=222 i
would be sure that it's the same user and the same status for that
user.

Ivan.


On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Michael Ivey michael.i...@gmail.com wrote:
 You could do this internally in your application, using statuses/show to
 make sure you have the correct user info before redirecting.
  -- ivey


 On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:06 AM, Ivan Glushkov gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, thanks, Abraham! That's great!

 But why isn't it documented anywhere?
 And is there any way to redirect to some status of this user?
 I mean smth like
 http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992status=3
 ???

 Thanks once more,
 Ivan.


 On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Actually Twitter does support it.
  http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992
  Abraham
 
  On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 06:42, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi.
 
  I don't need an application that is able to handle this. Instead i
  need changes in the twitter API so i can refer to the users and their
  statuses using the user id, not the username. This is a problem for
  the aggregator, and there users (so it become also a problem for the
  twitter users).
 
  Is there any plan in this direction?
 
  Ivan.
 
 
  On 21 янв, 06:03, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
   I remember this topic coming up before and it seems like someone
   built
   an
   application that handled this but I can't find any references to it.
   Maybe
   somebody else can?
  
   Abraham
  
  
  
   On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:29, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi.
  
I tried to find the similar question here (in google groups), in
the
FAQ and in the API, but couldn't find anything.
  
The problem:
Cross-posting the links to the user page and to some his statuses
in
the web become more and more popular. But, as i understood, you
can't
guarantee that this links not long after would not change the
logical
destination. For example I create some post about some twitter-user
aaa and give the link twitter.com/aaa
After that user “aaa” changed name to bbb and user ddd changed
name to aaa. So my old link now points to the different person.
  
This problem becomes more serious for the aggregators that don't
know
what content they might approve after a while.
  
The simplest decision would be providing the possibility to link to
the user not by name but also by id. That pages might be just
redirections to the original user pages, it doesn't matter.
  
For example
if the user “aaa” have id 11, the following two links should
point
to the same page:
twitter.com/aaa and twitter.com/id/11
  
This mechanism should also be applied for the statuses:
twitter.com/id/11/statuses/22
  
Ivan.
  
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Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Possibility to link to the user page not by the name but by the id.

2010-01-29 Thread Abraham Williams
Actually Twitter does support it.

http://twitter.com/account/redirect_by_id?id=9436992

Abraham

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 06:42, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.

 I don't need an application that is able to handle this. Instead i
 need changes in the twitter API so i can refer to the users and their
 statuses using the user id, not the username. This is a problem for
 the aggregator, and there users (so it become also a problem for the
 twitter users).

 Is there any plan in this direction?

 Ivan.


 On 21 янв, 06:03, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
  I remember this topic coming up before and it seems like someone built an
  application that handled this but I can't find any references to it.
 Maybe
  somebody else can?
 
  Abraham
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:29, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi.
 
   I tried to find the similar question here (in google groups), in the
   FAQ and in the API, but couldn't find anything.
 
   The problem:
   Cross-posting the links to the user page and to some his statuses in
   the web become more and more popular. But, as i understood, you can't
   guarantee that this links not long after would not change the logical
   destination. For example I create some post about some twitter-user
   aaa and give the link twitter.com/aaa
   After that user “aaa” changed name to bbb and user ddd changed
   name to aaa. So my old link now points to the different person.
 
   This problem becomes more serious for the aggregators that don't know
   what content they might approve after a while.
 
   The simplest decision would be providing the possibility to link to
   the user not by name but also by id. That pages might be just
   redirections to the original user pages, it doesn't matter.
 
   For example
   if the user “aaa” have id 11, the following two links should point
   to the same page:
   twitter.com/aaa and twitter.com/id/11
 
   This mechanism should also be applied for the statuses:
   twitter.com/id/11/statuses/22
 
   Ivan.
 
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[twitter-dev] Re: Possibility to link to the user page not by the name but by the id.

2010-01-27 Thread Ivan
Hi.

I don't need an application that is able to handle this. Instead i
need changes in the twitter API so i can refer to the users and their
statuses using the user id, not the username. This is a problem for
the aggregator, and there users (so it become also a problem for the
twitter users).

Is there any plan in this direction?

Ivan.


On 21 янв, 06:03, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 I remember this topic coming up before and it seems like someone built an
 application that handled this but I can't find any references to it. Maybe
 somebody else can?

 Abraham



 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:29, Ivan gli.w...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi.

  I tried to find the similar question here (in google groups), in the
  FAQ and in the API, but couldn't find anything.

  The problem:
  Cross-posting the links to the user page and to some his statuses in
  the web become more and more popular. But, as i understood, you can't
  guarantee that this links not long after would not change the logical
  destination. For example I create some post about some twitter-user
  aaa and give the link twitter.com/aaa
  After that user “aaa” changed name to bbb and user ddd changed
  name to aaa. So my old link now points to the different person.

  This problem becomes more serious for the aggregators that don't know
  what content they might approve after a while.

  The simplest decision would be providing the possibility to link to
  the user not by name but also by id. That pages might be just
  redirections to the original user pages, it doesn't matter.

  For example
  if the user “aaa” have id 11, the following two links should point
  to the same page:
  twitter.com/aaa and twitter.com/id/11

  This mechanism should also be applied for the statuses:
  twitter.com/id/11/statuses/22

  Ivan.

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