[twitter-dev] Re: Rules About Making Money

2009-07-16 Thread MakeMoney

Doug,  Thank you, very helpful.  I emailed you @ the twitter support
email address via the link you posted for me.  I basically outlined
the plan for you to give you an idea what I am looking to do.  I
emailed you from my personal email account and used your name in the
subject line.

Thanks

On Jul 15, 4:54 pm, Doug Williams  wrote:
> There have never been any conversations internally about shutting down
> services for competitive reasons. That would contradict our ethos of
> an open API and work against the fostering of a healthy ecosystem. The
> majority of our conversations center around how to stabilize the
> developer-base and ensure that our plans further the abilities of
> developers to innovate.
>
> The only services that we proactively work to restrict are those which
> increase spam and abuse. Even then, we reach out and attempt to work
> with the developer before taking any action.
>
> If you have specific questions about your project, I'd be happy to
> take them off thread for privacy [1].
>
> 1.http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Support
>
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:34 PM, MakeMoney wrote:
>
> > Thanks,  This was very helpful.  I do not use any sort of bots or
> > anything like that, and only people that wish to follow me follow me.
> > I would like to streamline my services though for nationwide offerings
> > and just wanted to make sure that I would invest in this and then have
> > it shut off.
>
> > Brian


[twitter-dev] Re: Rules About Making Money

2009-07-15 Thread jmathai

On Jul 15, 2:54 pm, Doug Williams  wrote:
> Even then, we reach out and attempt to work
> with the developer before taking any action.

That's delightful to know.  Seriously :).  Working with APIs is often
a pain but Twitter's managed to create a pretty good ecosystem for
developers by providing support and open communication.  Kudos.


[twitter-dev] Re: Rules About Making Money

2009-07-15 Thread Doug Williams

There have never been any conversations internally about shutting down
services for competitive reasons. That would contradict our ethos of
an open API and work against the fostering of a healthy ecosystem. The
majority of our conversations center around how to stabilize the
developer-base and ensure that our plans further the abilities of
developers to innovate.

The only services that we proactively work to restrict are those which
increase spam and abuse. Even then, we reach out and attempt to work
with the developer before taking any action.

If you have specific questions about your project, I'd be happy to
take them off thread for privacy [1].

1. http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Support

Thanks,
Doug




On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:34 PM, MakeMoney wrote:
>
> Thanks,  This was very helpful.  I do not use any sort of bots or
> anything like that, and only people that wish to follow me follow me.
> I would like to streamline my services though for nationwide offerings
> and just wanted to make sure that I would invest in this and then have
> it shut off.
>
> Brian
>


[twitter-dev] Re: Rules About Making Money

2009-07-15 Thread MakeMoney

Thanks,  This was very helpful.  I do not use any sort of bots or
anything like that, and only people that wish to follow me follow me.
I would like to streamline my services though for nationwide offerings
and just wanted to make sure that I would invest in this and then have
it shut off.

Brian


[twitter-dev] Re: Rules About Making Money

2009-07-15 Thread Nick Arnett
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:30 PM, MakeMoney wrote:

>
> I have a business plan and I am looking to role it out.  It involves
> using Twitter as a median.  I have already gotten interest from
> parties willing to pay for my service, but I beleive it may infringe
> upon how Twitter will eventually make money.  I do not want to invest
> in this service, and then have Twitter shut it down to replace it with
> their own.  I sent Twitter an email today asking them for a possible
> discussion time, but I am guessing they get a ton of these and most
> likely won't respond.  If not does anyone know the legality of using
> there service to make money?  And the legality of them being able to
> shut off my account?  Thanks.


Generally speaking, any company that uses its terms of service to stifle
competition is running the risk of violating anti-trust laws.  For that
reason, I seriously doubt if they'll even answer your email.  That's a very
dangerous conversation to have.  Companies have to compete on their
offerings, not by making deals with potential competitors.

Consider the fact that there are hundreds or thousands of software
developers who "use" Windows to compete with Microsoft.  Not only is that
legal, Microsoft has found itself in legal hot water when it tries to
prevent it.  Imagine, for example, if Microsoft tried to stop OpenOffice
from running under Windows.  The U.S. DOJ would jump all over that.

On the other hand, when you're dancing with the elephant it is easy to get
stepped on.  As I think Heidi Roizen used to say, "How do you know that
Microsoft likes you?  They crush you last."

A lot of people don't understand anti-trust laws and how they affect
communities and their conversations.  For example, it would be a huge
problem if developers here began discussing and comparing how much they
charge for their work.  That sort of conversation tends to be interpreted by
the courts as price fixing, which is unlawful.

Nick


[twitter-dev] Re: Rules About Making Money

2009-07-15 Thread Alex Payne
Lots of people are making money via Twitter. Some sell their applications,
others post ads directly on Twitter, others use Twitter content on their
sites and include ads there; there are many different possible business
models.
As long as you stay within our terms of service - which, of course, may be
updated at our discretion, so stay current - you should be fine.

We do actively police spam and abusive behavior. Some people's conception of
legitimate business, it turns out, is everyone else's conception of
unsolicited and aggressive marketing. Don't do that.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 13:30, MakeMoney wrote:

>
> I have a business plan and I am looking to role it out.  It involves
> using Twitter as a median.  I have already gotten interest from
> parties willing to pay for my service, but I beleive it may infringe
> upon how Twitter will eventually make money.  I do not want to invest
> in this service, and then have Twitter shut it down to replace it with
> their own.  I sent Twitter an email today asking them for a possible
> discussion time, but I am guessing they get a ton of these and most
> likely won't respond.  If not does anyone know the legality of using
> there service to make money?  And the legality of them being able to
> shut off my account?  Thanks.
>



-- 
Alex Payne - Platform Lead, Twitter, Inc.
http://twitter.com/al3x