[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-04-06 Thread Matt Sanford

Hi André,

Search does have this feature, query for to:username to see the  
old replies behavior.


Thanks;
  — Matt Sanford / @mzsanford

On Apr 6, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Andre Muller wrote:




A big issue of the client side filtration of retweets is that the
server side pagination is lost...

I think Twitter Search API should add a parameter for replies...

Thank's Twitter is a great app!

André Luiz Müller


On Mar 31, 3:24 am, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:
I'm going to combine a number of responses here so please bear with  
me:


@Mike:
I have heard no internal discussion of making retweets a feature,  
but that
could simply be the result of freshman ignorance. As you point out  
in your
post, the filtration of retweets from the timeline is one such  
instance

where it would make sense. Regarding the change at hand, we feel the
consensus from the user and developer community is that returning  
more data

is a win. So, our current answer to the filtration of retweets is for
applications to do that client side as desired.

Regards,
Doug Williams
Twitter API Supporthttp://twitter.com/dougw






[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-04-06 Thread Andre Muller


A big issue of the client side filtration of retweets is that the
server side pagination is lost...

I think Twitter Search API should add a parameter for replies...

Thank's Twitter is a great app!

André Luiz Müller


On Mar 31, 3:24 am, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:
 I'm going to combine a number of responses here so please bear with me:

 @Mike:
 I have heard no internal discussion of making retweets a feature, but that
 could simply be the result of freshman ignorance. As you point out in your
 post, the filtration of retweets from the timeline is one such instance
 where it would make sense. Regarding the change at hand, we feel the
 consensus from the user and developer community is that returning more data
 is a win. So, our current answer to the filtration of retweets is for
 applications to do that client side as desired.

 Regards,
 Doug Williams
 Twitter API Supporthttp://twitter.com/dougw



[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-04-06 Thread Abraham Williams
Direct messages are private and therefore not included in Search results.
Search only includes public tweets.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 13:37, Andre Muller andremul...@gmail.com wrote:


 Thanks Matt

 I thought it was only for direct messages... :)

 By the way, is there a way to filter (exclude) the direct messages?

 Tks!

 André Luiz Müller


 On Apr 6, 3:06 pm, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com wrote:
  Hi André,
 
   Search does have this feature, query for to:username to see the
  old replies behavior.
 
  Thanks;
 — Matt Sanford / @mzsanford
 
  On Apr 6, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Andre Muller wrote:
 
 
 
   A big issue of the client side filtration of retweets is that the
   server side pagination is lost...
 
   I think Twitter Search API should add a parameter for replies...
 
   Thank's Twitter is a great app!
 
   André Luiz Müller
 
   On Mar 31, 3:24 am, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:
   I'm going to combine a number of responses here so please bear with
   me:
 
   @Mike:
   I have heard no internal discussion of making retweets a feature,
   but that
   could simply be the result of freshman ignorance. As you point out
   in your
   post, the filtration of retweets from the timeline is one such
   instance
   where it would make sense. Regarding the change at hand, we feel the
   consensus from the user and developer community is that returning
   more data
   is a win. So, our current answer to the filtration of retweets is for
   applications to do that client side as desired.
 
   Regards,
   Doug Williams
   Twitter API Supporthttp://twitter.com/dougw




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[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-04-05 Thread Nick Arnett
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:

 The API is not able to support retweets as a feature until the main
 Twitter.com site offers some notion of retweets as a feature. As evidenced
 by the recent shift from @replies to mentions, Twitter does listen to the
 users' behavior to drive site changes. We obviously recognize the large
 number of users adopting retweets as a way to share good content. For now,
 though, retweets must be found through client-side parsing.

 Thanks to all for the lively discussion on this thread. It has been
 valuable.


I'd like to point out, if it isn't already obvious, that this is part of a
larger issue that many of us are probably expecting Twitter to someday
tackle -- another kind of trend monitoring, similar to the various counters
of explicit retweets and those that count what I call implicit retweets --
services like @twurlednews (mine) and @twitturly.

The more that people retweet, the more our timelines will be cluttered with
redundancy.  As retweeting become easier and more standardized, it is an
increasingly valuable source of intelligence, but it will also create
problems that Twitter and this community will have to/get to solve.

In other words, consider the problems and opportunities that codifying
retweets will create - I suspect that some API features will make sense to
offer at the same time, providing summary data that makes it easy for
clients to avoid all that redundancy.

Nick


[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-04-03 Thread Martin Dufort

Doug: I've rechecked everything and it seems the problem was on my
side. Sorry for the false report - Martin

On Apr 2, 5:40 pm, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:
 Martin,
 I'm not seeing the problem with statuses/replies.json you are reporting. For
 which account are you missing data?

 Doug Williams
 Twitter API Supporthttp://twitter.com/dougw

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Martin Dufort martin.duf...@gmail.comwrote:





  And is this available now via the JSON API interface because,
  according to my tests, I do not see any in the middle of a tweet
  mentions being reported by the API.
  Thanks - Martin

  On Mar 31, 1:33 pm, Joshua Perry j...@6bit.com wrote:
   This hasn't been said but I'm assuming this is only for tweets from this
   point forward, as I don't see any tweets from the past that mention my
   username...

   Doug Williams wrote:
Devs,
Before today calls to statuses/replies [1] would return only tweets
that were prefixed with a @username. As clients began to recognize the
value in mentions of a @username anywhere in the tweet, they opted to
perform a search for @username to get the superset.

Twitter agrees [2] that the definition of a reply has changed, and as
such, calls to statuses/replies contain any tweets that include a
mention of the authenticating user.

If your client has been using the Search API to retrieve @replies, you
should begin to migrate to statuses/replies method as it now best
practice.

1.http://apiwiki.twitter.com/REST-API-Documentation#statuses/replies
2.http://blog.twitter.com/2009/03/replies-are-now-mentions.html

Code on,
Doug Williams
Twitter API Support
   http://twitter.com/dougw


[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-04-02 Thread Doug Williams
Martin,
I'm not seeing the problem with statuses/replies.json you are reporting. For
which account are you missing data?

Doug Williams
Twitter API Support
http://twitter.com/dougw


On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Martin Dufort martin.duf...@gmail.comwrote:


 And is this available now via the JSON API interface because,
 according to my tests, I do not see any in the middle of a tweet
 mentions being reported by the API.
 Thanks - Martin

 On Mar 31, 1:33 pm, Joshua Perry j...@6bit.com wrote:
  This hasn't been said but I'm assuming this is only for tweets from this
  point forward, as I don't see any tweets from the past that mention my
  username...
 
 
 
  Doug Williams wrote:
   Devs,
   Before today calls to statuses/replies [1] would return only tweets
   that were prefixed with a @username. As clients began to recognize the
   value in mentions of a @username anywhere in the tweet, they opted to
   perform a search for @username to get the superset.
 
   Twitter agrees [2] that the definition of a reply has changed, and as
   such, calls to statuses/replies contain any tweets that include a
   mention of the authenticating user.
 
   If your client has been using the Search API to retrieve @replies, you
   should begin to migrate to statuses/replies method as it now best
   practice.
 
   1.http://apiwiki.twitter.com/REST-API-Documentation#statuses/replies
   2.http://blog.twitter.com/2009/03/replies-are-now-mentions.html
 
   Code on,
   Doug Williams
   Twitter API Support
  http://twitter.com/dougw



[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-04-02 Thread sujamthe

Doug,

I second Mike's suggestion to codify RTs. I have clients who want to
track RTs for two scenarios:

1. To find their brand influencers, as to who did the rts as they are
their brand advocates. It would be helpful to get to this in a quick
ap - track rts by person, how many rts of same content. I am gathering
this manually or by loading tweets from the search API into an overall
social media metrics tool and then massaging the data. Ideally I would
like to automate this to connect to the internal marketing engine.

2. This is also powerful for companies trying A/B testing of messaging
using RTs. Again tracking which rts echoed more and who give it the
bump up and times when it worked best.

I seem the lonely voice here as my needs are for building out
enterprise apps or rather integration of twitter into the enterprise.

best,
Sudha

Sudha Jamthe
http://tmeet.me and unnamed twitter apps for Intuit, Network World.

On Mar 30, 7:47 pm, Mike Champion mike.champ...@gmail.com wrote:
 Great, this will be a helpful change.

 Any discussion of codifying Retweets in a similar way in the search
 API? It seems like they are also a subset of Mentions where 1) starts
 with RT 2) includes a @mention 3) rest of the content (fuzzy) matches
 a previous tweet by the @mention tweeter.

 -mike

 On Mar 30, 10:28 pm, tweetip twee...@mac.com wrote:

  In changing our code, we've decided:

  Show my replies becomes Show my mentions

  but

  Reply to is not becoming Mention to - it stays Reply to

  otoh

  having both my replies and my mentions is something users will ask
  for...

  hth :)


[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-04-02 Thread Doug Williams
The API is not able to support retweets as a feature until the main
Twitter.com site offers some notion of retweets as a feature. As evidenced
by the recent shift from @replies to mentions, Twitter does listen to the
users' behavior to drive site changes. We obviously recognize the large
number of users adopting retweets as a way to share good content. For now,
though, retweets must be found through client-side parsing.

Thanks to all for the lively discussion on this thread. It has been
valuable.

Doug Williams
Twitter API Support
http://twitter.com/dougw


On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:15 PM, sujamthe sujam...@gmail.com wrote:


 Doug,

 I second Mike's suggestion to codify RTs. I have clients who want to
 track RTs for two scenarios:

 1. To find their brand influencers, as to who did the rts as they are
 their brand advocates. It would be helpful to get to this in a quick
 ap - track rts by person, how many rts of same content. I am gathering
 this manually or by loading tweets from the search API into an overall
 social media metrics tool and then massaging the data. Ideally I would
 like to automate this to connect to the internal marketing engine.

 2. This is also powerful for companies trying A/B testing of messaging
 using RTs. Again tracking which rts echoed more and who give it the
 bump up and times when it worked best.

 I seem the lonely voice here as my needs are for building out
 enterprise apps or rather integration of twitter into the enterprise.

 best,
 Sudha

 Sudha Jamthe
 http://tmeet.me and unnamed twitter apps for Intuit, Network World.

 On Mar 30, 7:47 pm, Mike Champion mike.champ...@gmail.com wrote:
  Great, this will be a helpful change.
 
  Any discussion of codifying Retweets in a similar way in the search
  API? It seems like they are also a subset of Mentions where 1) starts
  with RT 2) includes a @mention 3) rest of the content (fuzzy) matches
  a previous tweet by the @mention tweeter.
 
  -mike
 
  On Mar 30, 10:28 pm, tweetip twee...@mac.com wrote:
 
   In changing our code, we've decided:
 
   Show my replies becomes Show my mentions
 
   but
 
   Reply to is not becoming Mention to - it stays Reply to
 
   otoh
 
   having both my replies and my mentions is something users will ask
   for...
 
   hth :)



[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-04-01 Thread Martin Dufort

And is this available now via the JSON API interface because,
according to my tests, I do not see any in the middle of a tweet
mentions being reported by the API.
Thanks - Martin

On Mar 31, 1:33 pm, Joshua Perry j...@6bit.com wrote:
 This hasn't been said but I'm assuming this is only for tweets from this
 point forward, as I don't see any tweets from the past that mention my
 username...



 Doug Williams wrote:
  Devs,
  Before today calls to statuses/replies [1] would return only tweets
  that were prefixed with a @username. As clients began to recognize the
  value in mentions of a @username anywhere in the tweet, they opted to
  perform a search for @username to get the superset.

  Twitter agrees [2] that the definition of a reply has changed, and as
  such, calls to statuses/replies contain any tweets that include a
  mention of the authenticating user.

  If your client has been using the Search API to retrieve @replies, you
  should begin to migrate to statuses/replies method as it now best
  practice.

  1.http://apiwiki.twitter.com/REST-API-Documentation#statuses/replies
  2.http://blog.twitter.com/2009/03/replies-are-now-mentions.html

  Code on,
  Doug Williams
  Twitter API Support
 http://twitter.com/dougw


[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-31 Thread Iain Dodsworth

Superb update Doug, having all mentions of your username picked up via
replies/mentions is a real improvement which, from the TweetDeck
experience, has led to a marked increase in the use of @usernames in a
more conversational style. More importantly, it has also enabled/
encouraged the use of multi-user targeted tweets which IMO has
improved the utility of twitter.

I've stripped out the now redundant search API call from the replies
column and will be pushing out a new TweetDeck release (with some
interesting developments :)) later on this week.

Iain


[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-31 Thread Peter Maurer

 The in_reply_to_status_id will be honored only if the value is a status_id
 that was authored by a user that is also mentioned in the tweet.

Given the fact that we do have in_reply_to_status_id as a separate
meta data field to indicate a reply, I wonder why you guys require the
tweet to include the recipient's screen name. After all, tweets _are_
limited in length. I'm sure you thought long and hard about this, and
I'd be interested in some background information, if you don't mind,
Doug. Did you choose this path for user experience reasons only, or is
there also a technical reason?

All in all, I really like the new Mentions, but I do wonder if a
separate Replies twitter.com section/API call, which doesn't require
mentioning of the recipient, would be worthwhile. That way, we'd have
even more data to play with. :)

Peter.


[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-31 Thread Matt Sanford


Hi all,

One thing to keep in mind when thinking about any meta-data  
fields is that they are invisible via SMS. Some features that's ok for  
(like the exact status it was a reply to) but the text of the message  
itself should have enough context to be clear to the recipient. @user  
yes, I'll marry you would make sense on SMS, just yes, I'll marry  
you could be awkward :)


Thanks;
  — Matt Sanford

On Mar 31, 2009, at 07:03 AM, Peter Maurer wrote:



The in_reply_to_status_id will be honored only if the value is a  
status_id

that was authored by a user that is also mentioned in the tweet.


Given the fact that we do have in_reply_to_status_id as a separate
meta data field to indicate a reply, I wonder why you guys require the
tweet to include the recipient's screen name. After all, tweets _are_
limited in length. I'm sure you thought long and hard about this, and
I'd be interested in some background information, if you don't mind,
Doug. Did you choose this path for user experience reasons only, or is
there also a technical reason?

All in all, I really like the new Mentions, but I do wonder if a
separate Replies twitter.com section/API call, which doesn't require
mentioning of the recipient, would be worthwhile. That way, we'd have
even more data to play with. :)

Peter.




[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-31 Thread Cameron Kaiser

[Charset WINDOWS-1252 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
 
 Hi all,
 
  One thing to keep in mind when thinking about any meta-data  
 fields is that they are invisible via SMS. Some features that's ok for  
 (like the exact status it was a reply to) but the text of the message  
 itself should have enough context to be clear to the recipient. @user  
 yes, I'll marry you would make sense on SMS, just yes, I'll marry  
 you could be awkward :)
 
 Thanks;
_ Matt Sanford
 
 On Mar 31, 2009, at 07:03 AM, Peter Maurer wrote:
 
 
  The in_reply_to_status_id will be honored only if the value is a  
  status_id
  that was authored by a user that is also mentioned in the tweet.
 
  Given the fact that we do have in_reply_to_status_id as a separate
  meta data field to indicate a reply, I wonder why you guys require the
  tweet to include the recipient's screen name. After all, tweets _are_
  limited in length. I'm sure you thought long and hard about this, and
  I'd be interested in some background information, if you don't mind,
  Doug. Did you choose this path for user experience reasons only, or is
  there also a technical reason?
 
  All in all, I really like the new Mentions, but I do wonder if a
  separate Replies twitter.com section/API call, which doesn't require
  mentioning of the recipient, would be worthwhile. That way, we'd have
  even more data to play with. :)
 
  Peter.
 
 


-- 
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[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-31 Thread Dossy Shiobara


On 3/30/09 8:39 PM, Doug Williams wrote:

If your client has been using the Search API to retrieve @replies, you
should begin to migrate to statuses/replies method as it now best practice.


OMG!  It's like Christmas, in March!

Thanks, Twitter Oompa-Loompas!

--
Dossy Shiobara  | do...@panoptic.com | http://dossy.org/
Panoptic Computer Network   | http://panoptic.com/
  He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own
folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on. (p. 70)


[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-31 Thread Joshua Perry


This hasn't been said but I'm assuming this is only for tweets from this 
point forward, as I don't see any tweets from the past that mention my 
username...


Doug Williams wrote:

Devs,
Before today calls to statuses/replies [1] would return only tweets 
that were prefixed with a @username. As clients began to recognize the 
value in mentions of a @username anywhere in the tweet, they opted to 
perform a search for @username to get the superset.


Twitter agrees [2] that the definition of a reply has changed, and as 
such, calls to statuses/replies contain any tweets that include a 
mention of the authenticating user.


If your client has been using the Search API to retrieve @replies, you 
should begin to migrate to statuses/replies method as it now best 
practice.


1. http://apiwiki.twitter.com/REST-API-Documentation#statuses/replies
2. http://blog.twitter.com/2009/03/replies-are-now-mentions.html

Code on,
Doug Williams
Twitter API Support
http://twitter.com/dougw


[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-31 Thread Doug Williams
Peter,
When the in_reply_to_status_id is set, the Web GUI appends the in reply to
user to the tweet. Therefore, we want to confirm that status_id is owned
by a user mentioned in the tweet before accepting the in_reply_to_status_id.
This constraint permits a less confusing user experience by ensuring the
tweet is indeed a reply to the status provided in the parameter.

Thanks,
Doug Williams
Twitter API Support
http://twitter.com/dougw


On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Joshua Perry j...@6bit.com wrote:


 This hasn't been said but I'm assuming this is only for tweets from this
 point forward, as I don't see any tweets from the past that mention my
 username...


 Doug Williams wrote:

 Devs,
 Before today calls to statuses/replies [1] would return only tweets that
 were prefixed with a @username. As clients began to recognize the value in
 mentions of a @username anywhere in the tweet, they opted to perform a
 search for @username to get the superset.

 Twitter agrees [2] that the definition of a reply has changed, and as
 such, calls to statuses/replies contain any tweets that include a mention of
 the authenticating user.

 If your client has been using the Search API to retrieve @replies, you
 should begin to migrate to statuses/replies method as it now best practice.

 1. http://apiwiki.twitter.com/REST-API-Documentation#statuses/replies
 2. http://blog.twitter.com/2009/03/replies-are-now-mentions.html

 Code on,
 Doug Williams
 Twitter API Support
 http://twitter.com/dougw




[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-30 Thread Chad Etzel

...and there was much rejoicing!
Hooray /

-chad

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:44 PM, atebits loren.brich...@gmail.com wrote:

 Fantastic change - thanks!

 On Mar 30, 5:39 pm, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:
 Devs,
 Before today calls to statuses/replies [1] would return only tweets that
 were prefixed with a @username. As clients began to recognize the value in
 mentions of a @username anywhere in the tweet, they opted to perform a
 search for @username to get the superset.

 Twitter agrees [2] that the definition of a reply has changed, and as such,
 calls to statuses/replies contain any tweets that include a mention of the
 authenticating user.

 If your client has been using the Search API to retrieve @replies, you
 should begin to migrate to statuses/replies method as it now best practice.

 1.http://apiwiki.twitter.com/REST-API-Documentation#statuses/replies
 2.http://blog.twitter.com/2009/03/replies-are-now-mentions.html

 Code on,
 Doug Williams
 Twitter API Supporthttp://twitter.com/dougw


[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-30 Thread Alex Payne

Something to keep in mind: our UX team has decided to represent this
feature as @$username on the web. If you don't have room for that
label in your Twitter app's GUI, consider an @ symbol. If you don't
like that representation, at least considering renaming Replies to
Mentions in your GUI to stay consistent with what new users will see
when they sign in to twitter.com.

That said, the new behavior is intuitive even with the label of
Replies, so don't panic if it takes a few days (or weeks) to push
out a new version of your app with a new label in the GUI. You
shouldn't need to change any of the logic (though you may get to
remove some if you were doing vanity searches via the Search API).

If your users don't like the new behavior, it's trivial to give them
the option to filter out anything but tweets starting with
@$username. We figured we'd err on the side of giving you more data
to work with.

Enjoy!

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 17:39, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:
 Devs,
 Before today calls to statuses/replies [1] would return only tweets that
 were prefixed with a @username. As clients began to recognize the value in
 mentions of a @username anywhere in the tweet, they opted to perform a
 search for @username to get the superset.

 Twitter agrees [2] that the definition of a reply has changed, and as such,
 calls to statuses/replies contain any tweets that include a mention of the
 authenticating user.

 If your client has been using the Search API to retrieve @replies, you
 should begin to migrate to statuses/replies method as it now best practice.

 1. http://apiwiki.twitter.com/REST-API-Documentation#statuses/replies
 2. http://blog.twitter.com/2009/03/replies-are-now-mentions.html

 Code on,
 Doug Williams
 Twitter API Support
 http://twitter.com/dougw




-- 
Alex Payne - API Lead, Twitter, Inc.
http://twitter.com/al3x


[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-30 Thread Craig Hockenberry

Are replies created by setting the in_reply_to_status_id with the
statuses/update method affected by this change?

There are some clients that set the id when doing things like
retweeting -- and these may or may not have a reference to a user's
screen name in them. Will these tweets continue to show up in the
statuses/replies feed?

-ch

On Mar 30, 5:39 pm, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:
 Devs,
 Before today calls to statuses/replies [1] would return only tweets that
 were prefixed with a @username. As clients began to recognize the value in
 mentions of a @username anywhere in the tweet, they opted to perform a
 search for @username to get the superset.

 Twitter agrees [2] that the definition of a reply has changed, and as such,
 calls to statuses/replies contain any tweets that include a mention of the
 authenticating user.

 If your client has been using the Search API to retrieve @replies, you
 should begin to migrate to statuses/replies method as it now best practice.

 1.http://apiwiki.twitter.com/REST-API-Documentation#statuses/replies
 2.http://blog.twitter.com/2009/03/replies-are-now-mentions.html

 Code on,
 Doug Williams
 Twitter API Supporthttp://twitter.com/dougw


[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-30 Thread Doug Williams
Craig,
Great questions.

The in_reply_to_status_id will be honored only if the value is a status_id
that was authored by a user that is also mentioned in the tweet. Therefore,
if you include a status_id for this parameter and that is either 1) invalid
or 2) does not belong to a user mentioned in the tweet, the field will be
discarded.

Your second question then becomes pretty intuitive when coupled with our
recent change to the in_reply_to_status_id field. If this field is valid by
the rules above, it will produce a in reply to user in the Web GUI.

Thanks,
Doug Williams
Twitter API Support
http://twitter.com/dougw


On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Jakk specto...@gmail.com wrote:


 I've been waiting for this for so long, thank you!

 On Mar 30, 8:39 pm, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:
  Devs,
  Before today calls to statuses/replies [1] would return only tweets that
  were prefixed with a @username. As clients began to recognize the value
 in
  mentions of a @username anywhere in the tweet, they opted to perform a
  search for @username to get the superset.
 
  Twitter agrees [2] that the definition of a reply has changed, and as
 such,
  calls to statuses/replies contain any tweets that include a mention of
 the
  authenticating user.
 
  If your client has been using the Search API to retrieve @replies, you
  should begin to migrate to statuses/replies method as it now best
 practice.
 
  1.http://apiwiki.twitter.com/REST-API-Documentation#statuses/replies
  2.http://blog.twitter.com/2009/03/replies-are-now-mentions.html
 
  Code on,
  Doug Williams
  Twitter API Supporthttp://twitter.com/dougw



[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-30 Thread Jesse Stay
What would be a nice addition would be the ability to have a mentions meta
tag with the Tweet stating those mentioned in the Tweet.  Those in the
mentions meta tag don't necessarily have to be in the Tweet.  Consider
this similar to Facebook's tagging for photos and videos, and UIs could
build tagging around that without the user ever having to mention anyone in
the Tweet itself.
My thought on this is that by using that method, users wouldn't necessarily
have to pollute their Tweets with a user's name while trying to get their
attention.  It also wouldn't take away from the 140 characters and the Tweet
could focus more on content.  I'd love to see the same types of meta-tagging
for hashtags and keywords describing the Tweet.

Jesse

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Alex Payne a...@twitter.com wrote:


 Something to keep in mind: our UX team has decided to represent this
 feature as @$username on the web. If you don't have room for that
 label in your Twitter app's GUI, consider an @ symbol. If you don't
 like that representation, at least considering renaming Replies to
 Mentions in your GUI to stay consistent with what new users will see
 when they sign in to twitter.com.

 That said, the new behavior is intuitive even with the label of
 Replies, so don't panic if it takes a few days (or weeks) to push
 out a new version of your app with a new label in the GUI. You
 shouldn't need to change any of the logic (though you may get to
 remove some if you were doing vanity searches via the Search API).

 If your users don't like the new behavior, it's trivial to give them
 the option to filter out anything but tweets starting with
 @$username. We figured we'd err on the side of giving you more data
 to work with.

 Enjoy!

 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 17:39, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:
  Devs,
  Before today calls to statuses/replies [1] would return only tweets that
  were prefixed with a @username. As clients began to recognize the value
 in
  mentions of a @username anywhere in the tweet, they opted to perform a
  search for @username to get the superset.
 
  Twitter agrees [2] that the definition of a reply has changed, and as
 such,
  calls to statuses/replies contain any tweets that include a mention of
 the
  authenticating user.
 
  If your client has been using the Search API to retrieve @replies, you
  should begin to migrate to statuses/replies method as it now best
 practice.
 
  1. http://apiwiki.twitter.com/REST-API-Documentation#statuses/replies
  2. http://blog.twitter.com/2009/03/replies-are-now-mentions.html
 
  Code on,
  Doug Williams
  Twitter API Support
  http://twitter.com/dougw
 



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[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-30 Thread Cameron Kaiser

 I can also see there being a need to filter out some of your mentions:
 if you're one of those users who gets a lot of retweets, seeing RT
 @chockenberry SAID SOMETHING FUNNY is going to get pretty annoying as
 thousands of people echo what you say. Is there going to be an option
 so that only replies get put into your mentions feed (statuses/
 replies)?

I think this is a stellar idea.

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[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-30 Thread Cameron Kaiser

 Great, this will be a helpful change.
 
 Any discussion of codifying Retweets in a similar way in the search
 API? It seems like they are also a subset of Mentions where 1) starts
 with RT 2) includes a @mention 3) rest of the content (fuzzy) matches
 a previous tweet by the @mention tweeter.

Yes, but it seems TMTOWTDI with RTs because I've also seen xyzpdq (via
@omglol), retweet @omglol: xyzpdq, etc. There's too much variation in
syntax.

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[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-30 Thread Mike Champion

Great, this will be a helpful change.

Any discussion of codifying Retweets in a similar way in the search
API? It seems like they are also a subset of Mentions where 1) starts
with RT 2) includes a @mention 3) rest of the content (fuzzy) matches
a previous tweet by the @mention tweeter.

-mike

On Mar 30, 10:28 pm, tweetip twee...@mac.com wrote:
 In changing our code, we've decided:

 Show my replies becomes Show my mentions

 but

 Reply to is not becoming Mention to - it stays Reply to

 otoh

 having both my replies and my mentions is something users will ask
 for...

 hth :)


[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-30 Thread Craig Hockenberry

Thanks for the clarification, Doug. Overall, I think this is a very
positive change. Just a little spooked that it came out of the blue
like it did - maybe next time it would be wise to give us a bit of a
heads up before deploying...

More questions:

On http://twitter.com/account/notifications, will there be new options
to control how your @replies are handled? Currently, the user can
choose:

All @replies
@replies to the people I'm following
No @replies

Does this now mean:

All mentions
Mentions to the people I'm following
No mentions

?

I can also see there being a need to filter out some of your mentions:
if you're one of those users who gets a lot of retweets, seeing RT
@chockenberry SAID SOMETHING FUNNY is going to get pretty annoying as
thousands of people echo what you say. Is there going to be an option
so that only replies get put into your mentions feed (statuses/
replies)?

-ch

On Mar 30, 6:38 pm, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:
 Craig,
 Great questions.

 The in_reply_to_status_id will be honored only if the value is a status_id
 that was authored by a user that is also mentioned in the tweet. Therefore,
 if you include a status_id for this parameter and that is either 1) invalid
 or 2) does not belong to a user mentioned in the tweet, the field will be
 discarded.

 Your second question then becomes pretty intuitive when coupled with our
 recent change to the in_reply_to_status_id field. If this field is valid by
 the rules above, it will produce a in reply to user in the Web GUI.

 Thanks,
 Doug Williams
 Twitter API Supporthttp://twitter.com/dougw

 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Jakk specto...@gmail.com wrote:

  I've been waiting for this for so long, thank you!

  On Mar 30, 8:39 pm, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:
   Devs,
   Before today calls to statuses/replies [1] would return only tweets that
   were prefixed with a @username. As clients began to recognize the value
  in
   mentions of a @username anywhere in the tweet, they opted to perform a
   search for @username to get the superset.

   Twitter agrees [2] that the definition of a reply has changed, and as
  such,
   calls to statuses/replies contain any tweets that include a mention of
  the
   authenticating user.

   If your client has been using the Search API to retrieve @replies, you
   should begin to migrate to statuses/replies method as it now best
  practice.

   1.http://apiwiki.twitter.com/REST-API-Documentation#statuses/replies
   2.http://blog.twitter.com/2009/03/replies-are-now-mentions.html

   Code on,
   Doug Williams
   Twitter API Supporthttp://twitter.com/dougw


[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-30 Thread Chad Etzel

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote:

  Yes, but it seems TMTOWTDI with RTs because I've also seen xyzpdq (via
  @omglol), retweet @omglol: xyzpdq, etc. There's too much variation in
  syntax.

 TMTOWTDI
 ??

 There's More Than One Way To Do It

 ... I imagine there's not a big Perl crowd on this list. *le sigh*

Ah, of course... I had never seen it in acronym form before, and I was le tired.
AH MOTHERLAND!
-chad


[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-30 Thread Jesse Stay
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.comwrote:


   Yes, but it seems TMTOWTDI with RTs because I've also seen xyzpdq (via
   @omglol), retweet @omglol: xyzpdq, etc. There's too much variation
 in
   syntax.
 
  TMTOWTDI
  ??

 There's More Than One Way To Do It

 ... I imagine there's not a big Perl crowd on this list. *le sigh*


I got it - how young is this list? I'm only 31, but I guess that's old these
days.  Perl's much more widely used than people think, I think.  Anyone
noticed the YAML::Syck messages in SMS from Twitter lately?

Jesse


[twitter-dev] Re: statuses/replies now include mentions

2009-03-30 Thread Cameron Kaiser

 Also, I see Alex is talking about @$username - is that documented
 somewhere? I didn't find it when I went looking in the REST API doc
 (or the search doc either, for that matter).

Alex means it as a pattern, i.e., @doctorlinguist, @al3x, etc.

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