Re: [twsocket] Gmail--04-04-2016

[OBones]

Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote:

This is totally expected, the only GMail accepts POP connections
of this type is if you allow "less secure apps".

My password is strong 15 characters, but I still get SMTP and POP3
access with this turned off.
Yes, mine was too, but at some point in time it started telling me "you 
need to activate less secure access". Don't know why though.



If you don't want to enable this, you MUST implement two factor
authentication according to Google standards, and this is not for
the faint hearted (on top of being proprietary)

Is that OAUTH or a variant as listed in the capabilities list?  Or
something different?

Yes, that's it.
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[twsocket] Gmail--04-04-2016

[zayin]

OK I found http://wiki.overbyte.be/wiki/index.php/ICS_Download has some SSL
binaries.

I tested up to 0.9.8x with the same result.

Wonder if I should take the leap to V8.
Are there any know issues going from V7 to V8?
I am using Delphi XE.

I am posting this journey so if others run into this issue a search might
find it.



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[twsocket] Gmail--04-04-2016

[zayin]

OK The file version is not the same as the product version.
The SSL I am using is 0.9.8r.
Searching for binaries I found https://indy.fulgan.com/SSL/.
It looks like the last 0.9.8 version was 0.9.8.zh.
I am going to give it a go. 







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[twsocket] Gmail--04-04-2016

[zayin]

Could it be the version of SSL dlls I am using?

ssleay32.dll, libeay32.dll   0.9.8.18

Are there newer versions that work with V7 of ICS?

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Re: [twsocket] Gmail--04-04-2016

[Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd]

> This is totally expected, the only GMail accepts POP connections 
> of this type is if you allow "less secure apps".

My password is strong 15 characters, but I still get SMTP and POP3
access with this turned off.  

> If you don't want to enable this, you MUST implement two factor 
> authentication according to Google standards, and this is not for 
> the faint hearted (on top of being proprietary)

Is that OAUTH or a variant as listed in the capabilities list?  Or
something different?  

One or more of those has been on my wish list for a long time, useful
for other cloud services as well.  Someone else did an ICS version a
while back, but it never got integrated into ICS.  

Angus

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[twsocket] Gmail--04-04-2016

[zayin]

Thanks for the response.

>This is totally expected, the only GMail accepts POP connections of this 
>type is if you allow "less secure apps".

Yes, except it has worked for more than 2 years without it.

Not a biggie for me. I documented it and have moved on.




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Re: [twsocket] Gmail--04-04-2016

[OBones]

za...@hmisys.com wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion.

I changed the password to a 25 character password with lots of randomity.
Gmail said it was "strong."
When I turned off the "less secure apps", the error returned.


This is totally expected, the only GMail accepts POP connections of this 
type is if you allow "less secure apps".
If you don't want to enable this, you MUST implement two factor 
authentication according to Google standards, and this is not for the 
faint hearted (on top of being proprietary)

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[twsocket] Gmail--04-04-2016

[zayin]

Thanks for the suggestion.

I changed the password to a 25 character password with lots of randomity.
Gmail said it was "strong."
When I turned off the "less secure apps", the error returned.



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Re: [twsocket] Gmail--04-04-2016

[Darin McGee]

The password may have been too "simple".  Try really complex passwrd.




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 Original message 
From: za...@hmisys.com 
Date: 4/5/2016  9:28 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: twsoc...@elists.org 
Subject: [twsocket]  Gmail--04-04-2016 

Hello,

Well I was premature. It did not fully work. A new error appeared:

! Starting SSL handshake
Secure connection with TLSv1, cipher AES128-SHA, 128 secret bits (128 total)
< 220 smtp.gmail.com ESMTP d10sm9778116oem.0 - gsmtp
Request Done Rq=0 Error=0
> EHLO XIComputer2
< 250-smtp.gmail.com at your service, [70.196.22.81]
< 250-SIZE 35882577
< 250-8BITMIME
< 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XOAUTH2 PLAIN-CLIENTTOKEN OAUTHBEARER XOAUTH
< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
< 250-PIPELINING
< 250-CHUNKING
< 250 SMTPUTF8
Request Done Rq=10 Error=0
> AUTH LOGIN
< 334 VXNlcm5hbWU6
> UGVha0hNSUBnbWFpbC5jb20=
< 334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6
> bXJkeHh4MTIzNA==
< 534-5.7.14
 Please log in via your web
browser and
< 534-5.7.14 then try again.
< 534-5.7.14  Learn more at
< 534 5.7.14  https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754 d10sm9778116oem.0
- gsmtp
Request Done Rq=11 Error=534 5.7.14
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754 d10sm9778116oem.0 - gsmtp

I had to go to: https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps

and "Turn on" access for less secure apps. 

The password is correct.

Ideas?

Thanks,

Mark


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[twsocket] Gmail--04-04-2016

[zayin]

Hello,

Well I was premature. It did not fully work. A new error appeared:

! Starting SSL handshake
Secure connection with TLSv1, cipher AES128-SHA, 128 secret bits (128 total)
< 220 smtp.gmail.com ESMTP d10sm9778116oem.0 - gsmtp
Request Done Rq=0 Error=0
> EHLO XIComputer2
< 250-smtp.gmail.com at your service, [70.196.22.81]
< 250-SIZE 35882577
< 250-8BITMIME
< 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XOAUTH2 PLAIN-CLIENTTOKEN OAUTHBEARER XOAUTH
< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
< 250-PIPELINING
< 250-CHUNKING
< 250 SMTPUTF8
Request Done Rq=10 Error=0
> AUTH LOGIN
< 334 VXNlcm5hbWU6
> UGVha0hNSUBnbWFpbC5jb20=
< 334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6
> bXJkeHh4MTIzNA==
< 534-5.7.14
 Please log in via your web
browser and
< 534-5.7.14 then try again.
< 534-5.7.14  Learn more at
< 534 5.7.14  https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754 d10sm9778116oem.0
- gsmtp
Request Done Rq=11 Error=534 5.7.14
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78754 d10sm9778116oem.0 - gsmtp

I had to go to: https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps

and "Turn on" access for less secure apps. 

The password is correct.

Ideas?

Thanks,

Mark


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[twsocket] Gmail--04-04-2016

[zayin]

Hello,

> The EHLO argement is supposed to be a host name, not an email address,
> many SMTP servers will refuse the connection unless a reverse DNS check
>works.  Not sure why you are using an email address, the ICS default is
>the computer name.

Thanks, that was it. 

What I find funny is we tested with 4 different email services, including
Gmail, and it has worked for several years.

Ciao,

Mark






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Re: [twsocket] Gmail--04-04-2016

[Jarek Karciarz]

Witam,

Version 8 and open ssl works for me fine as well.

Pozdrawiam

Jarek Karciarz



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Temat: Re: [twsocket] Gmail--04-04-2016
Do: twsocket@lists.elists.org


For several years now access to Gmail, using SSL, has been
flawless. I am using version 7.
Today access to Gmail has failed and I am unsure if it is a
temporary issue or Gmail made a change.
501 5.5.4 HELO/EHLO argument theaddr...@gmail.com invalid,


Working fine here with the latest ICS version 8 and OpenSSL:

08:32:49 - Sending Mail
< 220 smtp.gmail.com ESMTP j18sm18013427wmd.2 - gsmtp
08:32:49 - SMTP Session Connected to 74.125.206.108:587

EHLO PC20

< 250-smtp.gmail.com at your service, [82.33.197.157]
< 250-SIZE 35882577
< 250-8BITMIME
< 250-STARTTLS
< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
< 250-PIPELINING
< 250-CHUNKING
< 250 SMTPUTF8

STARTTLS

< 220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS
Starting SSL handshake

The EHLO argement is supposed to be a host name, not an email address,
many SMTP servers will refuse the connection unless a reverse DNS check
works.  Not sure why you are using an email address, the ICS default is
the computer name.

Angus

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Re: [twsocket] Gmail--04-04-2016

[Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd]

> For several years now access to Gmail, using SSL, has been 
> flawless. I am using version 7.
> Today access to Gmail has failed and I am unsure if it is a 
> temporary issue or Gmail made a change.
> 501 5.5.4 HELO/EHLO argument theaddr...@gmail.com invalid,

Working fine here with the latest ICS version 8 and OpenSSL:

08:32:49 - Sending Mail 
< 220 smtp.gmail.com ESMTP j18sm18013427wmd.2 - gsmtp
08:32:49 - SMTP Session Connected to 74.125.206.108:587
> EHLO PC20
< 250-smtp.gmail.com at your service, [82.33.197.157]
< 250-SIZE 35882577
< 250-8BITMIME
< 250-STARTTLS
< 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
< 250-PIPELINING
< 250-CHUNKING
< 250 SMTPUTF8
> STARTTLS
< 220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS
Starting SSL handshake

The EHLO argement is supposed to be a host name, not an email address,
many SMTP servers will refuse the connection unless a reverse DNS check
works.  Not sure why you are using an email address, the ICS default is
the computer name.  

Angus

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