Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-19 Thread Guillaume MAISON
Paul Taylor - Affordable Technology a écrit : Hello all, It's good to see the idea of an ICS Help File gaining momentum. I'm indebted to Francois for the number of years that I have used his components and would love to give something back. It will be a long-term project and keeping up the

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-19 Thread Francois PIETTE
- Original Message - From: Paul Taylor - Affordable Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ICS support mailing twsocket@elists.org Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] ICS help system? Hello all, It's good to see the idea of an ICS Help File gaining momentum. I'm

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-18 Thread Paul Taylor - Affordable Technology
Hello all, It's good to see the idea of an ICS Help File gaining momentum. I'm indebted to Francois for the number of years that I have used his components and would love to give something back. It will be a long-term project and keeping up the momentum I suspect will be the problem.

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-18 Thread Dod
Hello, Personnaly I like the actual Help and FAQ html documents available from Overbyte's web site, they just need to be improved with some missing methods/properties/events explanations and samples and could be linked into single .CHM Wiki has a big problem : you must be connected

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-09 Thread Guillaume MAISON
Arno Garrels a écrit : A wiki allows many users to work on the same stuff, that's something totally different. Help-comments in the source files would nullify this approach. Not completely true about nullification :) Let's say there would be a really up-to-date version of the documentation

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-09 Thread Fredrik Larsson
Just MySQL and PHP. And probably the best place for a ICS/Midware wiki is with you (Francois) :) Regards, Fredrik. -Original Message- I have this hosted site that it is currently not being used for *anything*. I will be glad to donate some (most?) of this space to host the ICS

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-09 Thread DZ-Jay
Fredrik Larsson wrote: Just MySQL and PHP. And probably the best place for a ICS/Midware wiki is with you (Francois) :) I much prefer it were hosted directly at OverByte, but just in case, know that the hosting space I have available includes MySQL/PHP and all the standard features. I

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-09 Thread Tibor Csonka
I much prefer it were hosted directly at OverByte, but just in case, know that the hosting space I have available includes MySQL/PHP and all the standard features. I always intended to make a web site, but never found the time, so I have 10GB of space, which I pay for yearly, just wasting

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-08 Thread Fredrik Larsson
I think a wiki is a great idea! I have started one myself and it's quite easy to setup. The wiki that powers wikiepdia et c is probably the best. http://www.mediawiki.org/ is the place to go. -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-08 Thread DZ-Jay
Hello: Well, as one of those who started a documentation effort a few times in the past and was unable to continue, I am very wary about suggesting another one. However, I do agree that of all the other methods we have tried in the past (html faq, windows help file, etc.), a Wiki is

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-08 Thread Tibor Csonka
If DZ-Jay is offering hosting, then I can maybe do the Windows HTML help importer, which will take the exported wiki data and build a html source from it. I don't know the effort to do that but I'm willing to look at it if you like. Anyway it highly depends on the wiki system of choice for ICS

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-08 Thread DZ-Jay
Tibor Csonka wrote: If DZ-Jay is offering hosting, then I can maybe do the Windows HTML help importer, which will take the exported wiki data and build a html source from it. I don't know the effort to do that but I'm willing to look at it if you like. Anyway it highly depends on the wiki

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-08 Thread Tibor Csonka
MediaWiki is good for me also. No problemo, I will install a test here and if you are willing to make this effort then I will look at the format of the exported XML files and the format for CHM and try to estimate how long would it take to implement it. Anyway there is no hurry because the

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-08 Thread Wilfried Mestdagh
Hello Tibor, This is a remarkable coincidence :) Just yesterday I mailed private this link to Francois: http://www.yunqa.de/delphi/pasdoc/ It create CHM files from source and looks to me very promising. However like al the other help projects we already did all depents of a few persons who

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-08 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
It create CHM files from source and looks to me very promising. This is by far my preferred way of generating help, from comments in the source modules themselves, then you always know the properties and methods are 100% reliable. But it will increase the size of the source files

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-08 Thread Wilfried Mestdagh
Hello, I for instance hate to read source code with such included comments, of course this is a question taste. To try the thing I made a help file of one of my components and I decided to keep the commented *.pas file for the help separate from the original *.pas file. So I agree with you

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-08 Thread Fredrik Larsson
Question is if a helpfile is needed or the Wiki is good enough? Almost everyone is online now... As long as there is one good source to get info a helpfile isn't really necessary... -Original Message- However it is a minimal work... On the other side the wiki looks good, but

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-08 Thread Arno Garrels
Fredrik Larsson wrote: Question is if a helpfile is needed or the Wiki is good enough? Almost everyone is online now... As long as there is one good source to get info a helpfile isn't really necessary... Yeah, a wiki is up to date, it realy doesn't need to be converted to a help file in

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-08 Thread Tibor Csonka
A help system rendered as a searchable indexed CHM is the developer _BEST_ friend! As I can estimate, it's not a hard thing to compile it from the exported wiki data. As for the sourcecode comments, I can only say, if you wish to do it then it's ok, do it but it is not a replacement for a real

Re: [twsocket] ICS help system?

2006-02-08 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
A wiki allows many users to work on the same stuff, that's something totally different. Help-comments in the source files would nullify this approach. I've no real idea what a 'wiki' is. However to generate an empty framework/skeleton it will probably be necessary to use such a tool and