Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6
I have in the bad old days been and done the hpavc stuff.. (alias XtraAccess) so i know all to well of what malicous entensions can be achieved by opening up a server on a local or remote pc, but that was then playtime is no more. The program i have uses all three points as well as some unique encryption to confirm the traffic and data being used, both peers and the website work together to create the circle of authentication as well as a lot more in place to ensure data both ways is only allowed under the rule base that i have. Creating the app to run securely and correctly is not my problem, the problem i have is getting the program to config under wireless admin automatically instead of making the user go through what is to many a daunting task. P.S.. Upnp enabled or not, firewall , antivirus or not... if someone really wants your pc and their good enough they will any any old hpavc guy/gal will be the first to admit it. Thanks.. - Original Message - From: "Francois Piette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > > > In my opinion, UPnP /is/ a large hole in security. > > > It is disabled on my router. > > > I don't agree. It makes things very convenient for the end user, > especially > > today when a lot of people are behind NAT routers. > > Yes indeed. And also very convenient for any virus/troyan/malicious code > behind the NAT router. > > > The only way I can see > > it being a security hole is if you have some malicious > > executable running behind your router. > > This is so frequently the case for most "standard" end user which do not > maintain their PC up-to-date, nor their anti-virus and anti-spyware. > > > If that is the case, the fact it can get your router to > > forward incoming connections isn't that significant, > > since it can easily connect outwards, or delete your data anyway... > > This is one more hole. > Each one consider security versus his own risks. > > > Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Author of ICS (Internet Component Suite, freeware) > Author of MidWare (Multi-tier framework, freeware) > http://www.overbyte.be > > -- > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > > -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6
> > In my opinion, UPnP /is/ a large hole in security. > > It is disabled on my router. > I don't agree. It makes things very convenient for the end user, especially > today when a lot of people are behind NAT routers. Yes indeed. And also very convenient for any virus/troyan/malicious code behind the NAT router. > The only way I can see > it being a security hole is if you have some malicious > executable running behind your router. This is so frequently the case for most "standard" end user which do not maintain their PC up-to-date, nor their anti-virus and anti-spyware. > If that is the case, the fact it can get your router to > forward incoming connections isn't that significant, > since it can easily connect outwards, or delete your data anyway... This is one more hole. Each one consider security versus his own risks. Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Author of ICS (Internet Component Suite, freeware) Author of MidWare (Multi-tier framework, freeware) http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6
As Fastream Technologies mentioned UPnp was the way i was looking for and not IPnp as the subject describes actually, as the program i have currently works fine when i configure the web admin for my router. There is plenty of checks inplace within the app to prevent unwanted or malicous attacks but i cannot expect joe blogs to have to setup port redirection etc via there router software which is why i am after some info or example of someone that has used UPnp. Thanks - Original Message - From: "Fastream Technologies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > One addition to your answer: There is a standard called UPnP > (Universal Plug and Play) which enables supporting routers to be able > to be configured by software (not have to log in via the web interface > but they provide some sort of low level web service). This is used for > forwarding NAT ports. > > Regards, > > SZ > > On 10/22/06, Francois PIETTE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is this how somehing like Kazaa works.? > > > > This is how any p2p system works. There is are only two possibilities: > > 1) A given computer can receive incomming connections > > 2) A given computer cannot receive any incomming connection > > > > The case (1) occur when the computer is behind a fixewall, a proxy, a NAT > > router or other kind of security product which need to be configured to > > allow incomming connections. Most profesionnal users are in that situation. > > The case (2) occur for computer directly connected to the internet and > > having no firewall of security product installed. Many home user fall into > > this case which is very risky in term of security. > > > > With case (1), if both computers are in that case, you either have to use an > > intermediate server or have one of the computers configured to accept > > incomming connections (and thus fall into case (2)). > > > > With case (2), there is no problem for a computer to act as a server and > > accept incomming connection. The paradise for p2p network (and hackers using > > remote control software or back door software). > > > > -- > > Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.overbyte.be > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "ICS support mailing" > > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:59 AM > > Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > > > > > > > Is this how somehing like Kazaa works.? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Francois PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "ICS support mailing" > > > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:52 AM > > > Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > > > > > > > > >> > So if in those applications pc1 has the mp3 that pc2 wants how is the > > > data > > >> > transfered.. isn't one uploading and one downloading thus a minimum of > > > one > > >> > server needed , sorry for the not understanding.? > > >> > > >> When no direct connection is possible (for example the user, like me has > > >> a > > >> NAT router), then an intermediate server is used. This intermediate > > >> server > > >> could be one of the user in the p2p network, a user which allows > > >> incomming > > >> connections (What a fool !). > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html > > >> -- > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> http://www.overbyte.be > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > - Original Message - > > >> > From: "Francois PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > To: "ICS support mailing" > > >> > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:02 AM > > >> > Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> Those applications are client. There is only outgoing connections. > > >> >> > > >> >> -- > > >> >> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit > > >> >> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html > > >> >> -- > >
Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6
I don't agree. It makes things very convenient for the end user, especially today when a lot of people are behind NAT routers. The only way I can see it being a security hole is if you have some malicious executable running behind your router. If that is the case, the fact it can get your router to forward incoming connections isn't that significant, since it can easily connect outwards, or delete your data anyway... Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Francois PIETTE Sent: 22 October 2006 17:03 To: ICS support mailing Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 In my opinion, UPnP /is/ a large hole in security. It is disabled on my router. -- Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.overbyte.be - Original Message - From: "Fastream Technologies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > One addition to your answer: There is a standard called UPnP > (Universal Plug and Play) which enables supporting routers to be able > to be configured by software (not have to log in via the web interface > but they provide some sort of low level web service). This is used for > forwarding NAT ports. > > Regards, > > SZ > > On 10/22/06, Francois PIETTE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Is this how somehing like Kazaa works.? >> >> This is how any p2p system works. There is are only two possibilities: >> 1) A given computer can receive incomming connections >> 2) A given computer cannot receive any incomming connection >> >> The case (1) occur when the computer is behind a fixewall, a proxy, a NAT >> router or other kind of security product which need to be configured to >> allow incomming connections. Most profesionnal users are in that >> situation. >> The case (2) occur for computer directly connected to the internet and >> having no firewall of security product installed. Many home user fall >> into >> this case which is very risky in term of security. >> >> With case (1), if both computers are in that case, you either have to use >> an >> intermediate server or have one of the computers configured to accept >> incomming connections (and thus fall into case (2)). >> >> With case (2), there is no problem for a computer to act as a server and >> accept incomming connection. The paradise for p2p network (and hackers >> using >> remote control software or back door software). >> >> -- >> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html >> -- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://www.overbyte.be >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "ICS support mailing" >> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:59 AM >> Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 >> >> >> > Is this how somehing like Kazaa works.? >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "Francois PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "ICS support mailing" >> > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:52 AM >> > Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 >> > >> > >> >> > So if in those applications pc1 has the mp3 that pc2 wants how is >> >> > the >> > data >> >> > transfered.. isn't one uploading and one downloading thus a minimum >> >> > of >> > one >> >> > server needed , sorry for the not understanding.? >> >> >> >> When no direct connection is possible (for example the user, like me >> >> has >> >> a >> >> NAT router), then an intermediate server is used. This intermediate >> >> server >> >> could be one of the user in the p2p network, a user which allows >> >> incomming >> >> connections (What a fool !). >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit >> >> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html >> >> -- >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> http://www.overbyte.be >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > - Original Message - >> >> > From: "Francois PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > To: "ICS support mailing" >> >> > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:02 AM >> >>
Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6
In my opinion, UPnP /is/ a large hole in security. It is disabled on my router. -- Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.overbyte.be - Original Message - From: "Fastream Technologies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > One addition to your answer: There is a standard called UPnP > (Universal Plug and Play) which enables supporting routers to be able > to be configured by software (not have to log in via the web interface > but they provide some sort of low level web service). This is used for > forwarding NAT ports. > > Regards, > > SZ > > On 10/22/06, Francois PIETTE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Is this how somehing like Kazaa works.? >> >> This is how any p2p system works. There is are only two possibilities: >> 1) A given computer can receive incomming connections >> 2) A given computer cannot receive any incomming connection >> >> The case (1) occur when the computer is behind a fixewall, a proxy, a NAT >> router or other kind of security product which need to be configured to >> allow incomming connections. Most profesionnal users are in that >> situation. >> The case (2) occur for computer directly connected to the internet and >> having no firewall of security product installed. Many home user fall >> into >> this case which is very risky in term of security. >> >> With case (1), if both computers are in that case, you either have to use >> an >> intermediate server or have one of the computers configured to accept >> incomming connections (and thus fall into case (2)). >> >> With case (2), there is no problem for a computer to act as a server and >> accept incomming connection. The paradise for p2p network (and hackers >> using >> remote control software or back door software). >> >> -- >> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html >> -- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://www.overbyte.be >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "ICS support mailing" >> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:59 AM >> Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 >> >> >> > Is this how somehing like Kazaa works.? >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "Francois PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "ICS support mailing" >> > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:52 AM >> > Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 >> > >> > >> >> > So if in those applications pc1 has the mp3 that pc2 wants how is >> >> > the >> > data >> >> > transfered.. isn't one uploading and one downloading thus a minimum >> >> > of >> > one >> >> > server needed , sorry for the not understanding.? >> >> >> >> When no direct connection is possible (for example the user, like me >> >> has >> >> a >> >> NAT router), then an intermediate server is used. This intermediate >> >> server >> >> could be one of the user in the p2p network, a user which allows >> >> incomming >> >> connections (What a fool !). >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit >> >> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html >> >> -- >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> http://www.overbyte.be >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > - Original Message - >> >> > From: "Francois PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > To: "ICS support mailing" >> >> > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:02 AM >> >> > Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Those applications are client. There is only outgoing connections. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit >> >> >> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html >> >> >> -- >> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> http://www.overbyte.be >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> >> >> From: &l
Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6
One addition to your answer: There is a standard called UPnP (Universal Plug and Play) which enables supporting routers to be able to be configured by software (not have to log in via the web interface but they provide some sort of low level web service). This is used for forwarding NAT ports. Regards, SZ On 10/22/06, Francois PIETTE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is this how somehing like Kazaa works.? > > This is how any p2p system works. There is are only two possibilities: > 1) A given computer can receive incomming connections > 2) A given computer cannot receive any incomming connection > > The case (1) occur when the computer is behind a fixewall, a proxy, a NAT > router or other kind of security product which need to be configured to > allow incomming connections. Most profesionnal users are in that situation. > The case (2) occur for computer directly connected to the internet and > having no firewall of security product installed. Many home user fall into > this case which is very risky in term of security. > > With case (1), if both computers are in that case, you either have to use an > intermediate server or have one of the computers configured to accept > incomming connections (and thus fall into case (2)). > > With case (2), there is no problem for a computer to act as a server and > accept incomming connection. The paradise for p2p network (and hackers using > remote control software or back door software). > > -- > Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.overbyte.be > > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "ICS support mailing" > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:59 AM > Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > > > > Is this how somehing like Kazaa works.? > > > > Thanks > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Francois PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "ICS support mailing" > > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:52 AM > > Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > > > > > >> > So if in those applications pc1 has the mp3 that pc2 wants how is the > > data > >> > transfered.. isn't one uploading and one downloading thus a minimum of > > one > >> > server needed , sorry for the not understanding.? > >> > >> When no direct connection is possible (for example the user, like me has > >> a > >> NAT router), then an intermediate server is used. This intermediate > >> server > >> could be one of the user in the p2p network, a user which allows > >> incomming > >> connections (What a fool !). > >> > >> -- > >> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html > >> -- > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://www.overbyte.be > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > - Original Message - > >> > From: "Francois PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: "ICS support mailing" > >> > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:02 AM > >> > Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > >> > > >> > > >> >> Those applications are client. There is only outgoing connections. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit > >> >> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html > >> >> -- > >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> http://www.overbyte.be > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> - Original Message - > >> >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> To: > >> >> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:08 AM > >> >> Subject: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >I am using an app i wrote which opens a http server on each users pc, > >> >> >the > >> >> >app when running registers with the website as online and this > >> >> >obtains > >> > the > >> >> >true ip, port used etc. > >> >> > > >> >> > The app allows searches a php driven site to obtain the ip address > >> >> > of > > a > >> >> > given search criteria and returns the remote users details which > > inturn > >> >> > allows the communication to remote users directly. > >> >> > > >> >> >
Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6
> Is this how somehing like Kazaa works.? This is how any p2p system works. There is are only two possibilities: 1) A given computer can receive incomming connections 2) A given computer cannot receive any incomming connection The case (1) occur when the computer is behind a fixewall, a proxy, a NAT router or other kind of security product which need to be configured to allow incomming connections. Most profesionnal users are in that situation. The case (2) occur for computer directly connected to the internet and having no firewall of security product installed. Many home user fall into this case which is very risky in term of security. With case (1), if both computers are in that case, you either have to use an intermediate server or have one of the computers configured to accept incomming connections (and thus fall into case (2)). With case (2), there is no problem for a computer to act as a server and accept incomming connection. The paradise for p2p network (and hackers using remote control software or back door software). -- Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.overbyte.be - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > Is this how somehing like Kazaa works.? > > Thanks > > - Original Message - > From: "Francois PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "ICS support mailing" > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:52 AM > Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > > >> > So if in those applications pc1 has the mp3 that pc2 wants how is the > data >> > transfered.. isn't one uploading and one downloading thus a minimum of > one >> > server needed , sorry for the not understanding.? >> >> When no direct connection is possible (for example the user, like me has >> a >> NAT router), then an intermediate server is used. This intermediate >> server >> could be one of the user in the p2p network, a user which allows >> incomming >> connections (What a fool !). >> >> -- >> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html >> -- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://www.overbyte.be >> >> >> >> >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "Francois PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "ICS support mailing" >> > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:02 AM >> > Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 >> > >> > >> >> Those applications are client. There is only outgoing connections. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit >> >> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html >> >> -- >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> http://www.overbyte.be >> >> >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> To: >> >> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:08 AM >> >> Subject: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 >> >> >> >> >> >> >I am using an app i wrote which opens a http server on each users pc, >> >> >the >> >> >app when running registers with the website as online and this >> >> >obtains >> > the >> >> >true ip, port used etc. >> >> > >> >> > The app allows searches a php driven site to obtain the ip address >> >> > of > a >> >> > given search criteria and returns the remote users details which > inturn >> >> > allows the communication to remote users directly. >> >> > >> >> > However at the moment being on a wireless connection and under > testing >> > via >> >> > my desktop and laptop i have to configure port redirection for each >> > server >> >> > to allow the traffic to go to the correct server else neither > receives >> > or >> >> > maybe only one receive a request. But if i download bittorrent or > some >> >> > other similar app i can run there ap no problem without adding any >> >> > information to my wireless admin to allow the traffic. How do they >> >> > do >> >> > this, is it due to IPNP or IPV6 etc. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks for your help.. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > To unsubscribe o
Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6
Is this how somehing like Kazaa works.? Thanks - Original Message - From: "Francois PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > > So if in those applications pc1 has the mp3 that pc2 wants how is the data > > transfered.. isn't one uploading and one downloading thus a minimum of one > > server needed , sorry for the not understanding.? > > When no direct connection is possible (for example the user, like me has a > NAT router), then an intermediate server is used. This intermediate server > could be one of the user in the p2p network, a user which allows incomming > connections (What a fool !). > > -- > Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.overbyte.be > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Francois PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "ICS support mailing" > > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:02 AM > > Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > > > > > >> Those applications are client. There is only outgoing connections. > >> > >> -- > >> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html > >> -- > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://www.overbyte.be > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: > >> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:08 AM > >> Subject: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > >> > >> > >> >I am using an app i wrote which opens a http server on each users pc, > >> >the > >> >app when running registers with the website as online and this obtains > > the > >> >true ip, port used etc. > >> > > >> > The app allows searches a php driven site to obtain the ip address of a > >> > given search criteria and returns the remote users details which inturn > >> > allows the communication to remote users directly. > >> > > >> > However at the moment being on a wireless connection and under testing > > via > >> > my desktop and laptop i have to configure port redirection for each > > server > >> > to allow the traffic to go to the correct server else neither receives > > or > >> > maybe only one receive a request. But if i download bittorrent or some > >> > other similar app i can run there ap no problem without adding any > >> > information to my wireless admin to allow the traffic. How do they do > >> > this, is it due to IPNP or IPV6 etc. > >> > > >> > Thanks for your help.. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > >> > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > >> > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > >> > >> -- > >> To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > >> please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > >> Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > >> > >> > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > > -- > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > > -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6
> So if in those applications pc1 has the mp3 that pc2 wants how is the data > transfered.. isn't one uploading and one downloading thus a minimum of one > server needed , sorry for the not understanding.? When no direct connection is possible (for example the user, like me has a NAT router), then an intermediate server is used. This intermediate server could be one of the user in the p2p network, a user which allows incomming connections (What a fool !). -- Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.overbyte.be > - Original Message - > From: "Francois PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "ICS support mailing" > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > > >> Those applications are client. There is only outgoing connections. >> >> -- >> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html >> -- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://www.overbyte.be >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:08 AM >> Subject: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 >> >> >> >I am using an app i wrote which opens a http server on each users pc, >> >the >> >app when running registers with the website as online and this obtains > the >> >true ip, port used etc. >> > >> > The app allows searches a php driven site to obtain the ip address of a >> > given search criteria and returns the remote users details which inturn >> > allows the communication to remote users directly. >> > >> > However at the moment being on a wireless connection and under testing > via >> > my desktop and laptop i have to configure port redirection for each > server >> > to allow the traffic to go to the correct server else neither receives > or >> > maybe only one receive a request. But if i download bittorrent or some >> > other similar app i can run there ap no problem without adding any >> > information to my wireless admin to allow the traffic. How do they do >> > this, is it due to IPNP or IPV6 etc. >> > >> > Thanks for your help.. >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list >> > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket >> > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list >> please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket >> Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be >> >> > > -- > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6
So if in those applications pc1 has the mp3 that pc2 wants how is the data transfered.. isn't one uploading and one downloading thus a minimum of one server needed , sorry for the not understanding.? Thanks - Original Message - From: "Francois PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > Those applications are client. There is only outgoing connections. > > -- > Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.overbyte.be > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:08 AM > Subject: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > > > >I am using an app i wrote which opens a http server on each users pc, the > >app when running registers with the website as online and this obtains the > >true ip, port used etc. > > > > The app allows searches a php driven site to obtain the ip address of a > > given search criteria and returns the remote users details which inturn > > allows the communication to remote users directly. > > > > However at the moment being on a wireless connection and under testing via > > my desktop and laptop i have to configure port redirection for each server > > to allow the traffic to go to the correct server else neither receives or > > maybe only one receive a request. But if i download bittorrent or some > > other similar app i can run there ap no problem without adding any > > information to my wireless admin to allow the traffic. How do they do > > this, is it due to IPNP or IPV6 etc. > > > > Thanks for your help.. > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > > -- > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > > -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6
Those applications are client. There is only outgoing connections. -- Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.overbyte.be - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:08 AM Subject: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 >I am using an app i wrote which opens a http server on each users pc, the >app when running registers with the website as online and this obtains the >true ip, port used etc. > > The app allows searches a php driven site to obtain the ip address of a > given search criteria and returns the remote users details which inturn > allows the communication to remote users directly. > > However at the moment being on a wireless connection and under testing via > my desktop and laptop i have to configure port redirection for each server > to allow the traffic to go to the correct server else neither receives or > maybe only one receive a request. But if i download bittorrent or some > other similar app i can run there ap no problem without adding any > information to my wireless admin to allow the traffic. How do they do > this, is it due to IPNP or IPV6 etc. > > Thanks for your help.. > > > > -- > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
