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I agree with Peter and Gabriel. The ACM seems intent on charging the same
amount per article and just shifting around who pays for it: from readers
to authors to conference-goers to (in their newest scheme) universities
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Hi,
I'm not on that list. And yes, I studied it. My conclusion at the time
was that the little money that the DL generates, that is not to pay the
sales and support staff who works for the DL, is for supporting the
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> Further, ACM does many positive things beyond archiving articles.
According to Crista Lopes on Twitter (I'm not sure if she's on this list):
"I studied @TheOfficialACM’s finances a few years ago, when I was
Treasurer
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Dear all,
On 22.12.19 19:18, jan Vitek wrote:
Andrew,
One problem here is that ACM is financing a whole lot of other
things besides publishing our papers with the DL’s revenue.
They like to call those things their
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The reasoning behind point #1 is "If someone doesn't think the
government should pass a law prohibiting X, then they support X." To be
blunt, this is a fallacy.
It would be interesting to see the numbers on point
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Andrew,
One problem here is that ACM is financing a whole lot of other
things besides publishing our papers with the DL’s revenue.
They like to call those things their “Good Works” but I have
never seen convincing
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> It feels a bit facile to bash the ACM for signing onto this letter.
> The letter does not mean that they oppose making publications freely
> available; in fact, I believe open access is a goal for ACM.
I understand it
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Dear Andrew (and list),
I believe open access is a goal for ACM
This is what the ACM says, but this is not their actions suggest. Some
examples:
1. They signed this letter. (They defend their choice in
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I was recently invited to the editorial board of a new ACM journal. I
refused to become an editor, on the grounds that the journal is not
open access.
I feel that as editors, we volunteer our time, and I have decided to
