Re: [TYPES] In a letter to the US White House, ACM opposes free distribution of peer-reviewed journal articles

2019-12-22 Thread Cristina Videira Lopes
[ The Types Forum, http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/types-list ] Hi, I'm not on that list. And yes, I studied it. My conclusion at the time was that the little money that the DL generates, that is not to pay the sales and support staff who works for the DL, is for supporting the

Re: [TYPES] In a letter to the US White House, ACM opposes free distribution of peer-reviewed journal articles

2019-12-22 Thread Derek Dreyer
[ The Types Forum, http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/types-list ] > Further, ACM does many positive things beyond archiving articles. According to Crista Lopes on Twitter (I'm not sure if she's on this list): "I studied @TheOfficialACM’s finances a few years ago, when I was Treasurer

Re: [TYPES] In a letter to the US White House, ACM opposes free distribution of peer-reviewed journal articles

2019-12-22 Thread Tadeusz Litak
[ The Types Forum, http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/types-list ] Dear all, On 22.12.19 19:18, jan Vitek wrote: Andrew, One problem here is that ACM is financing a whole lot of other things besides publishing our papers with the DL’s revenue. They like to call those things their

Re: [TYPES] In a letter to the US White House, ACM opposes free distribution of peer-reviewed journal articles

2019-12-22 Thread Andrew Myers
[ The Types Forum, http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/types-list ] The reasoning behind point #1 is "If someone doesn't think the government should pass a law prohibiting X, then they support X." To be blunt, this is a fallacy. It would be interesting to see the numbers on point

Re: [TYPES] In a letter to the US White House, ACM opposes free distribution of peer-reviewed journal articles

2019-12-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
[ The Types Forum, http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/types-list ] > It feels a bit facile to bash the ACM for signing onto this letter. > The letter does not mean that they oppose making publications freely > available; in fact, I believe open access is a goal for ACM. I understand it

Re: [TYPES] In a letter to the US White House, ACM opposes free distribution of peer-reviewed journal articles

2019-12-22 Thread Gabriel Scherer
[ The Types Forum, http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/types-list ] Dear Andrew (and list), I believe open access is a goal for ACM This is what the ACM says, but this is not their actions suggest. Some examples: 1. They signed this letter. (They defend their choice in

Re: [TYPES] In a letter to the US White House, ACM opposes free distribution of peer-reviewed journal articles

2019-12-21 Thread Gabriel Scherer
[ The Types Forum, http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/types-list ] Dear Roberto (and list), The new ACM Open model is based on the core idea of saving the licensing revenue of the ACM by shifting costs from their many customers (including in particular companies) to only the

Re: [TYPES] In a letter to the US White House, ACM opposes free distribution of peer-reviewed journal articles

2019-12-20 Thread Tim Sweeney
[ The Types Forum, http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/types-list ] Thanks for standing up for this. Epic Games (home to few type theorists but many ACM SigGraph participants) will make our support for authors' right to freely distribute their work known to ACM. -Tim On Fri, Dec 20,