This is one of many reasons to do all reading and writing to the
database by using subroutines built on the database.
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Ah, yes there it is in the User Reference, like you said Mark.
BUT, on 10.1 anyway,
* 'SUSPEND.FILES' is not in the Index of the User Reference, you
have
ansparent to your application. It is
what you want with legacy applications of all sorts of vintage.
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David
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with RAID configurations
and implementations.
Bill
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s' for the UniVerse documentation set?
Then it can be submitted to IBM?
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David
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Mike
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I am still not finding an
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I thought DB
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> I thought DBPAUSE allowed running processes to finish but would hold new
> processes . That's not much of a pause when you think that a process
> could be running for hours before the system is truly paused.
Fortunately, that's not true. Only pending writes are processed, not
entire programs.
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I am still not finding any real documentation details on
UV's SUSPEND.FILES ON/OFF.
As an aside, I suspect you are suffering from the poor organization of
the UniVerse documentation. I would exp
I am still not finding any real documentation details on
UV's SUSPEND.FILES ON/OFF.
As an aside, I suspect you are suffering from the poor organization of the
UniVerse documentation. I would expect something like this to be in a guide for
administrators, yet SUSPEND.FILE is documented is the
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> > For any Backup solution that uses the Mic
> For any Backup solution that uses the Microsoft VSS Snapshot
> functionality, or an "Advanced Open File Manager" option, would it be
> safe to say that for UD applications, they should issue the DBPAUSE
> command, "grab a snapshot", then DBRESUME - *for each Backup
> requested*, to ensure optimal
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SUSPEND.FILES ON/OFF
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I have followed this thread with much interest.
I have scoured t
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> Colin Alfke asked:
> "Along that line - would there be anything else tha
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Bill:
Try http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AutomateNTBackup.
Let me know if this helps.
Bill
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>Bill:
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>I would be interested to look over these NT scripts...
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>--Bill
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Bill:
I would be interested to look over these NT scripts...
--Bill
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Colin:
As always
Colin Alfke asked:
"Along that line - would there be anything else that may be holding up
DBPAUSE?"
A cause of a slow response back from DBPAUSE is not enough disk drives
under a system. When DBPAUSE is initiated, it flushes all of the UDT disk
buffers to disk. If there is a lot of data waiti
so I don't end up with so many backup files it crashes the disk).
Thanks again.
Bill
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So it could be anything from poor drive setup/layout, slow controller,
lack of ram, busy server (domain controller?).
I have seen print processes run amok and create items in the "temp"
folder that filled the drive. Maybe that's where your extra space went.
I haven't seen anything taking up 10 ti
> ...I was hoping someone would have
> experience with a high-speed backup product that would backup open
> files for U2. Since our application has a module that uses
> ASP.NET we really don't want to shut down the dbms for very long
> (this is more important than backuping up open files and not
Thanks Doug, I'll look at this.
Bill
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>At 11:29 AM 6/26
t;pristine" backup).
Thanks,
Bill
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>Bill
At 11:29 AM 6/26/2007, you wrote:
I've been testing NTBackup recently. There are some significant
time delays in backuping up a UD system vs a plain Windows system.
One thing to look at is the size of data prior to backup, IE the size
of the data source, not the size of the resultant backup
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How long does the backup take on the server if you shutdown UD first? Just
trying to rule out a problem with
of days passed in via the command line.
Bill
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Bill--
I presume that UniData invokes an NT service that could be disabled in an VB
Script.
The files could then be copied.
Check out... "VB Script, Step By Step", Ed Wilson, Microsoft Press, 2007.
--Bill
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connections to both UD servers from mv.NET and DesignBais (in the case of the
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Bill
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>1. How big is the data?
>
>2. How about (OS) copying to disk and then to a portable
>hard-drive or
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Subject: [U2] UD Backups
I've been testing NTBackup recently. There are some significant time
delays in backuping up a UD system vs a plain Windows system.
All servers run Windows 2003 Server Standard, updated several weeks ago.
One server is an IIS web server using .NET
: [U2] UD Backups
I've been testing NTBackup recently. There are some significant time delays
in backuping up a UD system vs a plain Windows system.
All servers run Windows 2003 Server Standard, updated several weeks ago.
One server is an IIS web server using .NET while the other
is a Un
I've been testing NTBackup recently. There are some significant time delays in
backuping up a UD system vs a plain Windows system.
All servers run Windows 2003 Server Standard, updated several weeks ago. One
server is an IIS web server using .NET while the other
is a UniData server. There's
The problem with NT backup is that it will skip files that are
open. So if you have people logged in or jobs running, the files
will be skipped. I believe I have seen VOC's skipped (and maybe
other files) for no apparent reason either.
See some of the posts here.
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As an aside, what does one do when rebuilding a machine from one of these
ba
Bill
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> Ken:
>
> Thank you very muchnt
Ken:
Thank you very muchntbackup, here I come. :-)
Bill
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Bill Haskett wrote:
> I'm so confused. How does one go about doing a UniData (on
> Windows) backup?
The same way you back up any other application on Windows - using whatever
windows tool you like, ideally against a quiescent database - ie log
everyone off, or do a dbpause.
> 1) Drag & drop the
I'm so confused. How does one go about doing a UniData (on Windows) backup?
1) Drag & drop the @UDTHOME directory (but then how does one restore it)?
2) Is there some sort of "save" verb that I can use after I:
:SETTAPE 9 E:/Backups/UDBackups E:/Backups/UDBackups 512
Following this, can one d
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