Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-16 Thread MAJ Programming
ughts to the computer. Despite mousing, that's still our most prevelant form of coding. - Original Message - From: "Eric Armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:15 PM Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case > Along with Rober

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-12 Thread D
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Murray Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:32 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case Hi all, One of the sites I worked at has always had a string of contractors (short term and long term). On

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-11 Thread Keith Johnson (DSLWN)
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, Jerry Banker wrote... > If you ever want a scare then go through the programs in the Universe BP > file. Some are upper case program lines with mixed case comments and > prompts, the way I prefer it, some are all lower case, some are mixed > case, and some are a mixture of all

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-11 Thread David Murray
] blank lines in code / mixed case I understand your point Brian. So what do we do with the situation where upper case is actually more readable to me and yet less readable to you? How do we rationalize such a dichotomy? -K --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe

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2008-03-11 Thread Norman Morgan
You can always count on an old brass-pounder to get the job done. 73 de (ex)WA4BCG === Norman Morgan <> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> http://www.brake.com === How does a shelf salesman keep his

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-11 Thread Craig McDonald
; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case They did teach keyboarding at my son's school, but with all of the phone texting that people (young people mainly) do these days is typing as we know it going to become obsolete? >>Do they even teach typing in sch

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-11 Thread David A. Green
e home keys and correct fingering. David A. Green -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Armstrong Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:15 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case Along with Robert I a

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-11 Thread Jerry Banker
gt; Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case > > Bill... I never meant to imply that a) I was offended, b) that I'm > somehow > any better than anyone else on this list, or c) that I'm a slow typist. > I > actually went through typing in high school (a most

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-11 Thread Moderator
All, My typing teacher actually sat down and cried after a session with me. On that note, I'd like to suggest that the High School musings move to U2-Community. END OF THREAD --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org

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2008-03-11 Thread Charles_Shaffer
They did teach keyboarding at my son's school, but with all of the phone texting that people (young people mainly) do these days is typing as we know it going to become obsolete? >>Do they even teach typing in school these day? My 15 year old daughter >>(who has had access to a computer since

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Kevin King
Bill... I never meant to imply that a) I was offended, b) that I'm somehow any better than anyone else on this list, or c) that I'm a slow typist. I actually went through typing in high school (a most traumatic story) and got reasonably good at touch typing in college until an accident left me wit

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Ron Walenciak
- Original Message - From: "Jerry Banker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case I was not trying to offend anyone with that remark but back in the day typing was something that girls took and boys

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Bill Haskett
TECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 6:12 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case Bill, I followed you until this: * Upper case is an anachronism and should be treated as such rather than defended. I

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Larry Hiscock
They teach the 21st century equivalent -- keyboarding. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Price Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:15 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case Do they even

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Larry Hiscock
. - Original Message - From: "Jerry Banker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case >I was not trying to offend anyone with that remark but back in the day > typing was something that girls took and bo

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Jerry Banker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:54 PM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case > > No offence taken. I got your point. I was just pointing out that some > boys saw "benefits" courses like typing! :) I think

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Bill Haskett
nal Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Price >Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:15 PM >To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case > >Do they even teach typing in school these day? My 15

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Brenda Price
or it! -Original Message- From: Susan Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:46 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case SNIP << the local public high school>> SNIP --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@lists

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2008-03-10 Thread Robert Houben
ong with a friend of hers at our high school. We really broke the mold... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:59 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

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2008-03-10 Thread Charles_Shaffer
Typing and speed reading. Really came in handy too. >>BTW, to the comment about straight guys not taking typing: Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/

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2008-03-10 Thread Susan Lynch
to use tools by helping my Dad with chores. ;-) Susan Lynch FW Davison & Company - Original Message - From: "Jerry Banker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case I was not trying to off

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Jerry Banker
age- > From: Eric Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:15 PM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case > > Along with Robert I also took Typing (along with football, tennis, > soccer) > in Hi

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Symeon Breen
] blank lines in code / mixed case I am not sure that is a good argument .. a simple 15-20 line program FIND will convert all to upper case and do a search that way. DSig David Tod Sigafoos SigsSolutions, Inc. Original Message Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Eric Armstrong
Along with Robert I also took Typing (along with football, tennis, soccer) in High School and am glad I did. Eric -Original Message- From: Robert Houben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:24 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread dsig
I am not sure that is a good argument .. a simple 15-20 line program FIND will convert all to upper case and do a search that way. DSig David Tod Sigafoos SigsSolutions, Inc. Original Message Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case From

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2008-03-10 Thread Brutzman, Bill
Kevin King Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:36 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case I understand your point Brian. So what do we do with the situation where upper case is actually more readable to me and yet less readable to you? How do we rationalize

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Robert Houben
>>> it is funny on email groups like this .. when someone types all in caps people complain that they are yelling <<< so if i type in all lower case, am i whispering? ;) --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Robert Houben
I've been listening to this with a mix of amusement and sympathy. I've been doing integration work between (originally DOS) and PICK since the early 80's, and have found myself shifting between C/C++/C#/Java/Other and PICK on a regular basis. I've come to accept that most of my customers want

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Jerry Banker
variable or command or by throwing in numbers and special characters. It explodes exponentially. Jerry Banker > -Original Message- > From: Kevin King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:36 AM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in co

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Mats Carlid
Mike Farrant skrev: --- PS I find unix irritating that it does not recognise LS when I mean ls or CP when I mean cp - how hard can it be to have both cases valid for such a small command set? Not hard at all really: Put the following commands in Your environment file file: alias LS="ls

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread dsig
read. it is funny on email groups like this .. when someone types all in caps people complain that they are yelling DSig David Tod Sigafoos SigsSolutions, Inc. Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case From: "

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Jeff Schasny
To paraphrase the ABATE folks: Let those who code decide. Unless I can get Donald Knuth to chime in on the subject (not likely since he stopped using email in 1990) I doubt that any of us are going to change each others minds. Especially the dinosaurs (used lovingly, and I include myself). Alt

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Mike Farrant
when I mean ls or CP when I mean cp - how hard can it be to have both cases valid for such a small command set? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: 10 March 2008 14:12 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Brian Leach
work it out for itself. Duh. 7. Go for a beer.. and find a typing course. Brian > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin King > Sent: 10 March 2008 15:36 > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: Re: [U2] blan

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Kevin King
I understand your point Brian. So what do we do with the situation where upper case is actually more readable to me and yet less readable to you? How do we rationalize such a dichotomy? -K --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Brian Leach
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin King > Sent: 10 March 2008 14:12 > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case > > Bill, I followed you until this: > > * Upper case is an anachronism and should be treated as such > r

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Jerry Banker
created the language that puts bread on your table. Jerry Banker > -Original Message- > From: Bill Haskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 4:31 PM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case > &

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-10 Thread Kevin King
Bill, I followed you until this: * Upper case is an anachronism and should be treated as such rather than defended. It is unwieldy for far too many and, in fact, interferes with efficient typing at every turn. Forcing people to use [Caps Lock] in U2 while all other used applications require [Cap

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-09 Thread Bill Haskett
O... Bill _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 9:39 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case I am admittedly a dinosaur of the upper-case bent with U2. Before I put

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-09 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kevin King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes And one last point to really fire up some folks: To those who think mixed case is more readable, I offer this: It's syntax, not literature. While we should do everything we can to make the code as human readable as possible,

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-08 Thread Symeon Breen
in code / mixed case I am admittedly a dinosaur of the upper-case bent with U2. Before I put on my flame suit, hear me out.. We developers type thousands - possibly even millions - of characters of code per year To press the letter "R" with caps lock on or off is only one keypress -

Re: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-08 Thread Kevin King
I am admittedly a dinosaur of the upper-case bent with U2. Before I put on my flame suit, hear me out.. We developers type thousands - possibly even millions - of characters of code per year To press the letter "R" with caps lock on or off is only one keypress - keeping in mind the state of the

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-08 Thread Warren, Phil
7:07 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case Dennis I have no idea why your code should not compile ... I always use plenty of whitespace and, yes, for the past 15+ years I've been using mixed case. For good reasons - once you get used to ie (and that *IS* the

RE: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-08 Thread Brian Leach
l Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Dennis Bartlett > Sent: 08 March 2008 10:18 > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: [U2] blank lines in code / mixed case > > How come my code won't compile if there are blank lines i

[U2] blank lines in code / mixed case

2008-03-08 Thread Dennis Bartlett
How come my code won't compile if there are blank lines in it? And yet when I find source on the net it has blank lines in it? and while we're at it, what is the case for / against using lower or upper case code, and what do I need to set to allow this to happen? Thanks --- u2-users mailing l