Bill H. wrote:
The management, who are putting their necks on the line, so to speak,
should be able to do what they think is necessary. The real
difficulty is management are being hired who don't know how to judge
the quality their business operations and activities. This is a
primary cause
Others have argued:
See the thing is, we're letting the auditors drive this thing.
Auditors don't drive this. Auditing is basic procedures plus
statistical sampling of transactions ...
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No, no, no, that's what financial auditors do, not I.T. auditors.
The word auditor is an
All this makes me glad I am in the uk
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Sent: 06 August 2004 14:39
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Three more things about Sarbanes-Oxley ... most important, acronyms
)
As always,
Bill
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My friend, we rarely disagree, even on these points. I've made
This sounds like the kind of thing that would drive one to purchase PRC.
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Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 7:03 AM
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The I.T. audits
Same here. We have established a fairly extensive Change Control Tracking
system with approval tracking at every stage.
Change Request - Approval
Modification - Approval
Testing - Approval
Move to production - Approval
Final - Approval
Vance Alspach
J L Industrial Supply
I was just
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Our department has gone Sarbanes-Oxley mad here.
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Same thing where my wife works. Not here as we're privately held. We've discussed
this at length between ourselves and determined the least-cost route is to buy back
all your stock and go private grin.
Jim
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Same here. We have established a fairly extensive Change Control
Tracking
system with approval tracking at every stage.
Change Request - Approval
Modification - Approval
Testing
Oliver
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:47 PM
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You may want to check out the May-Jun 2004 issue of Spectrum Magazine.
Susan Joslyn has an article starting on page 29 about the
Sarbanes-Oxley Act. See
http://www.intl-spectrum.com
Gordon Glorfield wrote:
BTW My apologies to our non-USA list members as this is only
pertinent to US operations. Sometimes I forget we are not all in the
USA.
Actually Gordon, while the legal responsibilities of compliance with USA
regulations only apply to USA companies, I can easily see
Multivalue once
and for all!
Ever the optimist,.
Susan Joslyn
PRC - Real software configuration management for U2/Multivalue
http://sjplus.com
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 15:44:14 -0600
From: Kevin King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [U2] [OT] Sarbanes-Oxley
I just re-read Susan's
Susan:
See the thing is, we're letting the auditors drive this thing.
Auditors don't drive this. Auditing is basic procedures plus statistical
sampling of transactions to validate these basic procedures.
Politics drive this. As Thomas Sowell often notes: politics does what feels
good at the
My friend, we rarely disagree, even on these points. I've made no such
assumptions about rationality, actual vs intended effects, nor the
competence of those sponsoring laws. I only stated the possible effect the
new laws will have on people worldwide. Are you responding to someone
else's
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