Re: [U2] B2B

2004-08-09 Thread Craig Bennett
Ross,
Ross Ferris wrote:
Secure implies SSL, which as you identify means using well known ports. I'd think it would take a lot more work to bastardise a solution using encrypted traffic on non-standard ports (I don't think you want to encrypt ALL traffic, so 80 won't do the trick) than changing your proxy to include SSL ports
HTTP proxying should work regardless of the proxy port -- you certainly 
can configure a proxy with different ports for http/https but I don't 
believe you need to (the proxy just has to understand the HTTP CONNECT 
method AFIK).

If callHTTP allows you to use a proxy, it should send all traffic there 
regardless of the destination port.

To confirm this was the problem, you could try using callHTTP to access 
a site on some non-standard port (eg: 8080) via the proxy and see if 
that works.

Craig
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RE: [U2] OT: Ardent.com

2004-08-09 Thread Claus Derlien
holy miss molly - its the vice president of ascential :-))

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RE: [U2] OT: Ardent.com

2004-08-09 Thread Claus Derlien
Name of jpg file is Bob_Zurek.jpg s  :-)

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RE: [U2] euro sign

2004-08-09 Thread Robert Paterson
Euro symbol support came in at 6.

It used to be that the Euro symbol varied according to font set used... So
you had to check each one.

It's Alt+128 on the character map in Windows XP and is a Unicode item -
U+20AC.

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SV: [U2] euro sign

2004-08-09 Thread Björn Eklund
ok, thanks Robert. I guess we'll have to upgrade to version 6 then.

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RE: [U2] Question on Unidata tables access speeds

2004-08-09 Thread policherla . reddy
It is indexed on the key column, even then if I run the run the job (query)
4 times in parallel, I am not getting advange of the parallel query. Is
Unidata not good for the parallel query ?, or is there any tuning method ?
thanks



   
  
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Is anything indexed?  Sounds like you could probably benefit from
adding some indexes on fields used for the selection. That would make
a BIG difference.

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 Hi ,
Project  data warehouse, Sources are  Unidata tables, tool  Datastage.
Performance issue,
while dumping in to hash file(Allowing stage write cash). It is
searching
5.5 million
rows and fetching 2.6 million rows and taking 2.5 hours. There is only
one key column in the ouput. When I remove select caluse(I mean select
all rows) and put that filter in my tool, it is ok, but not great.
After that When I run parallel jobs , I mean select the data by 4 jobs
for different ranges(all at the same time), it is taking
4 times than normal time . In other words, I am not getting
performance like Oracle or other data bases. I am new to Unidata, is
there any method where I can get good access speeds on Unidata.Any
help will be highly appreciated.

thanks
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RE: [U2] Question on Unidata tables access speeds

2004-08-09 Thread Kevin King
What fields are you using to select with? 

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It is indexed on the key column, even then if I run the run the job
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Is Unidata not good for the parallel query ?, or is there any tuning
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Is anything indexed?  Sounds like you could probably benefit from
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Project  data warehouse, Sources are  Unidata tables, tool  Datastage.
Performance issue,
while dumping in to hash file(Allowing stage write cash). It is
searching
5.5 million
rows and fetching 2.6 million rows and taking 2.5 hours. There is only
one key column in the ouput. When I remove select caluse(I mean select
all rows) and put that filter in my tool, it is ok, but not great.
After that When I run parallel jobs , I mean select the data by 4 jobs
for different ranges(all at the same time), it is taking
4 times than normal time . In other words, I am not getting
performance like Oracle or other data bases. I am new to Unidata, is
there any method where I can get good access speeds on Unidata.Any
help will be highly appreciated.

thanks
pbr


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RE: [U2] Paragraphs in Files Other Than VOC

2004-08-09 Thread Barry Rogen
Simple

 create a file to contain your paragraphs
 create voc entries that then refer to that file and item(s)

  0001. R
  0002. paragraph.filename
  0003. paragraph.itemname

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Is it possible to store paragraphs in files other than the VOC?  I'm
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like can be done with PROCs.

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RE: [U2] Paragraphs in Files Other Than VOC

2004-08-09 Thread Peter Olson
another option 

voc PETES.PROC

0001: PQ   
0002: [PETE.BP PETES.PROC  

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Re: [U2] Paragraphs in Files Other Than VOC

2004-08-09 Thread Stu Glancy
Use VOCLIB, a standard file, with a type R record in the VOC.  Here is an
example:

R
VOCLIB
MY.PARAGRAPH.OR.PROGRAM.OR.VERB
OPTIONAL.SECURITY.PROGRAM

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Re: [U2] Paragraphs in Files Other Than VOC

2004-08-09 Thread Clifton Oliver
Put the paragraph in another file, VOCLIB for example is provided. Then 
in the VOC put a remote pointer that has an R on line one, the file 
name on two, and the record ID in that file on line three.

ID: MONTH_END
01: R
02: VOCLIB
03: MONTH_END
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On Aug 9, 2004, at 8:04, Perry Taylor wrote:
Is it possible to store paragraphs in files other than the VOC?  I'm
looking for a way to not clutter up the VOC with paragraphs... 
something
like can be done with PROCs.

Thanks.
Perry Taylor
Zirmed, Inc.

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Re: [U2] Paragraphs in Files Other Than VOC

2004-08-09 Thread gcanedy
You can store them in the VOCLIB file, but you'll still need a remote
pointer to it from within the VOC.

VOCLIB record (named MY.REPORT for example):

0001: PA
0002: SETPTR
0003: SELECT...
0004: LIST
0005: etc.

VOC record (MY.REPORT or other shortcut name you want to use):

0001: R
0002: VOCLIB
0003: MY.REPORT  (points to the record in VOCLIB)

The nice thing is it cuts down some clutter, although requires an
additional read by UniVerse.




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RE: [U2] Paragraphs in Files Other Than VOC

2004-08-09 Thread Doyen Klein
You can create a remote pointer in the voc but you'll still have to have a
minimal voc entry. It does cut down on the number of lines in the voc.

The format is

001: R
002: PP 
003: PA.ID 

Line 1, the letter R, means a remote pointer
Line 2 is your other filename, PP was a default file used for such things in
years past)
Line 3 is the record id of your paragraph

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Re: [U2] Question on Unidata tables access speeds

2004-08-09 Thread policherla . reddy
I am doing select with BRANCH = 0616 0844 AND LEASE_TYPE # RA

Also What is AFAIK, how do we set it up for multiple connections ?
thanks



   
  
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That might explain why one query takes so long, but not the time for the
four queries
(unless he is out of resource).

UniData can run multiple queries concurrently, but AFAIK only one per
connection. So I
guess the question is how DataStage is connecting to UniData, as it looks
like DataStage
is scheduling these sequentially.

Brian

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Just my $0.001 worth.

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Project  data warehouse, Sources are  Unidata tables, tool  Datastage.
Performance issue,
while dumping in to hash file(Allowing stage write cash). It is
searching
5.5 million
rows and fetching 2.6 million rows and taking 2.5 hours. There is only
one key column in the ouput. When I remove select caluse(I mean select
all rows) and put that filter in my tool, it is ok, but not great.
After that When I run parallel jobs , I mean select the data by 4 jobs
for different ranges(all at the same time), it is taking
4 times than normal time . In other words, I am not getting
performance like Oracle or other data bases. I am new to Unidata, is
there any method where I can get good access speeds on Unidata.Any
help will be highly appreciated.

thanks
pbr


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RE: [U2] Question on Unidata tables access speeds

2004-08-09 Thread Pingilley, Ron
AFAIK = acronym for As Far As I Know

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I am doing select with BRANCH = 0616 0844 AND LEASE_TYPE # RA

Also What is AFAIK, how do we set it up for multiple connections ?
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That might explain why one query takes so long, but not the time for the
four queries
(unless he is out of resource).

UniData can run multiple queries concurrently, but AFAIK only one per
connection. So I
guess the question is how DataStage is connecting to UniData, as it looks
like DataStage
is scheduling these sequentially.

Brian

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You may want to try FILE.STAT and see if your file is properly sized.  If
not, then use
the RESIZE command.

Just my $0.001 worth.

Grant

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It is indexed on the key column, even then if I run the run the job
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4 times in parallel, I am not getting advange of the parallel query. Is
Unidata not good for the parallel query ?, or is there any tuning method ?
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Is anything indexed?  Sounds like you could probably benefit from
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a BIG difference.

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 Hi ,
Project  data warehouse, Sources are  Unidata tables, tool  Datastage.
Performance issue,
while dumping in to hash file(Allowing stage write cash). It is
searching
5.5 million
rows and fetching 2.6 million rows and taking 2.5 hours. There is only
one key column in the ouput. When I remove select caluse(I mean select
all rows) and put that filter in my tool, it is ok, but not great.
After that When I run parallel jobs , I mean select the data by 4 jobs
for different ranges(all at the same time), it is taking
4 times than normal time . In other words, I am not getting
performance like Oracle or other data bases. I am new to Unidata, is
there any method where I can get good access speeds on Unidata.Any
help will be highly appreciated.

thanks
pbr


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Re: [U2] Question on Unidata tables access speeds

2004-08-09 Thread Brian Leach
Sorry it's a regular acronym not a product name:

AFAIK = As Far As I Know

Though it would make a good name for a data mining tool.

There are some DataStage guys hanging around this list though I'm not sure of their 
time
zone - any of you want to answer?

Are you doing the select from within a datastage process, or could you run them off 
line
and fetch a select list of the results? You might want to look up the following
facilities of the database:

PHANTOM - runs a command in the background e.g. PHANTOM SELECT MYFILE
SAVE.LIST - this saves a list of record keys assembled by a selection under a specified
name.
GET.LIST - retrieves the list of record keys, as a prelude to further processing.

e.g. SELECT MYFILE WITH MYFIELD = MYCRITERIA
 SAVE.LIST MYLIST
(some time later)
 GET.LIST MYLIST

I'm just wondering whether you could PHANTOM off the four selections outside of 
DataStage
(e.g. from a cron or other scheduled job), and then pick up the resulting select lists 
in
your DataStage process at a later point, once you know those have completed.

I'm finishing up here for the day, but the others on the list can help you with select
lists and phantoms.
 
Regards

Brian

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That might explain why one query takes so long, but not the time for the
four queries
(unless he is out of resource).

UniData can run multiple queries concurrently, but AFAIK only one per
connection. So I
guess the question is how DataStage is connecting to UniData, as it looks
like DataStage
is scheduling these sequentially.

Brian

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You may want to try FILE.STAT and see if your file is properly sized.  If
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the RESIZE command.

Just my $0.001 worth.

Grant

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It is indexed on the key column, even then if I run the run the job
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4 times in parallel, I am not getting advange of the parallel query. Is
Unidata not good for the parallel query ?, or is there any tuning method ?
thanks






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RE: [U2] Question on Unidata tables access speeds

2004-08-09 Thread Kevin King
AFAIK = As Far As I Know

You should be indexed on BRANCH and/or LEASE_TYPE, and based on the
data a cascading select may a better way to get at the information
quicker.  I'm no expert on the index optimizer, so cascading selects
may not be necessary, but it sure seems logical that if you index even
on BRANCH and then select like this (below) you might get better
responses:

SELECT filename WITH BRANCH = 0616 0844
SELECT filename WITH LEASE_TYPE # RA

Also, are BRANCH and LEASE_TYPE actual data fields or translates from
another file?  If these are translates it could seriously impact your
select performance.

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Also What is AFAIK, how do we set it up for multiple connections ?
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That might explain why one query takes so long, but not the time for
the four queries (unless he is out of resource).

UniData can run multiple queries concurrently, but AFAIK only one per
connection. So I guess the question is how DataStage is connecting to
UniData, as it looks like DataStage is scheduling these sequentially.

Brian

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 10:35:01 -0400
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You may want to try FILE.STAT and see if your file is properly sized.

If
not, then use
the RESIZE command.

Just my $0.001 worth.

Grant

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It is indexed on the key column, even then if I run the run the job
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Is 
Unidata not good for the parallel query ?, or is there any tuning
method ?
thanks






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 Hi ,
Project  data warehouse, Sources are  Unidata tables, tool
Datastage.
Performance issue,
while dumping in to hash file(Allowing stage write cash). It is 
searching
5.5 million
rows and fetching 2.6 million rows and taking 2.5 hours. There is
only 
one key column in the ouput. When I remove select caluse(I mean
select 
all rows) and put that filter in my tool, it is ok, but not great.
After that When I run parallel jobs , I mean select the data by 4
jobs 
for different ranges(all at the same time), it is taking
4 times than normal time . In other words, I am not getting
performance 
like Oracle or other data bases. I am new to Unidata, is there any 
method where I can get good access speeds on Unidata.Any help will be

highly appreciated.

thanks
pbr


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2004-08-09 Thread Adrian Matthews
Presumably BRANCH and LEASE_TYPE are indexed..

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That might explain why one query takes so long, but not the time for the
four queries
(unless he is out of resource).

UniData can run multiple queries concurrently, but AFAIK only one per
connection. So I
guess the question is how DataStage is connecting to UniData, as it
looks
like DataStage
is scheduling these sequentially.

Brian

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 10:35:01 -0400
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You may want to try FILE.STAT and see if your file is properly sized.
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not, then use
the RESIZE command.

Just my $0.001 worth.

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Unidata not good for the parallel query ?, or is there any tuning
method ?
thanks






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 Hi ,
Project  data warehouse, Sources are  Unidata tables, tool  Datastage.
Performance issue,
while dumping in to hash file(Allowing stage write cash). It is
searching
5.5 million
rows and fetching 2.6 million rows and taking 2.5 hours. There is only
one key column in the ouput. When I remove select caluse(I mean select
all rows) and put that filter in my tool, it is ok, but not great.
After that When I run parallel jobs , I mean select the data by 4 jobs
for different ranges(all at the same time), it is taking
4 times than normal time . In other words, I am not getting
performance like Oracle or other data bases. I am new to Unidata, is
there any method where I can get good access speeds on Unidata.Any
help will be highly appreciated.

thanks
pbr


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RE: [U2] Paragraphs in Files Other Than VOC

2004-08-09 Thread Perry Taylor
Looks like an R VOC record is the ticket!  Thanks to all who responded!

Perry 

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[U2] RE: U2 Users Digest V1 #175

2004-08-09 Thread John Rowell
2 Canadian cents.
I use the local dictionaries to build a datastore I use to see if there are
any relationships between Table A and Table B. Invaluable to learn table
relationships and the use of primary and foreign keys on new sites. Also
shows any interaction with interim tables while building the Foreign Key.
Saves time setting up redundant translates, code reviews, debugging, etc.

It sure would be nice to have a 'Best Utility' competition in the Universe
world and present something at the International Spectrum conference. Maybe
there is but I haven't heard about it.


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U2 Users Digest Sunday, August 8 2004 Volume 01 : Number 175



In this issue:

Re: [U2] Adding D-Descriptors

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Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 13:33:57 -0400
From: Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [U2] Adding D-Descriptors

I'll toss out my 2 cents on this.

I place a high degree on the accuracy of dict items. That is, they represent
a consistent representation of the file layouts between MV flavours and
different applications. Whether Eclipse, SB+, other 4GL's or green screen,
they all hve this common denominator.

Balancing many clients with their differnet environments, the dicts are my
friend. I have a utility that I use against any file to match up the
'natural' dict items to their values and produce a 2 colum 40 field 'Form
View' of any file. THis assist me greatly to learn and maintain a file
outside of the app. We all know that field 39 on the screen isn't
necessarily attr 39.

Thus I have a bone to pick with any previous programmers who place data into
a field without some dict item helping me. Sure the app works with REC39
but trying to locate within the programs how field 39 gets populated or what
it stands for is a challenge. Dates are pretty obvious but that's about it.

For VAR-level systems, I would consider it negligent to install a system
with data in fields that have no dict items. I'm not talking temp-like
files. I'm talking CUSTOMER, PRODUCT etc files. One in particular has
001=NAME and 004=CITY with nothing on 002 or 003. Sometimes it's obvious and
other times it's not.

What I dislike are multiple use files like RESULTS PRODUCT or SAS SR.CF
where there truly more than one data design sharing the same file, depending
on the key. Thus the dict items are dependent on which record they are
using.

Then and now there are 4GL's that use the dict items either directly or
indirectly to hold parameters. This is a step towards the SQL based systems
that require data definitions.

Sure, we can exist without dict items. But it's a lot harder and goes
against the original purpose and design of our beloved 'post-relational'
database.

My 2 cents.




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 I guess it depends on who was at the controls at design time.   I've seen
 some systems where the dictionaries were like bibles in their 
 exactness. I've also seen the flipside of that.

 It all comes down to design and coding standards.  I had the good 
 fortune
of
 starting my pick career with a software company (wy back in the 
 prehistoric days) who emphasized standards and controls and it sort of
stuck
 with me.

 Sometimes the only way to figure that stuff out is to do what you 
 suggest and write utilities and manually go through code.  Hopefully, 
 you get some good code to look at.

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 Mike: Do you recommend a utility to 'scan' an application (progs  
 procs) for the definitions. I use the dicts as they're all in one 
 place and I can depend on it probably 85-90% of the time. I agree it 
 isn't perfect like a 'normal' db would be for definitions.

 I remember older programs that would produce a summary of the WRITES,
READS,
 DELETES etc on all the programs with filenames. Any clue.

 Unfortunately, the dicts are the best offering from the MV database,
albiet
 with flaws.

 my 1 cent.
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  The records can have varying numbers of fields.   From your comment
about
  flaky data, my guess would be that you are using fields that are 
  being written to someplace else other than what you added.
 
  Dictionaries have no impact on what Basic programs do.  Fields may 
  be written to a particular file and there doesn't have to be any 
  dictionary present or the dict says the 

RE: [U2] Question on Unidata tables access speeds

2004-08-09 Thread policherla . reddy
These are data fields. I found these fields are alternate keys too. My main
problem is , I am not getting speeds for multiple query sppeds on the same
table. Instead of parallesing, it is searilising. I am only wondering will
there be any restrictions on the tables for the multiple queries ?, set up
by Sys admin/DBA's . I will try out studying the Phantom also.
thanks



   
  
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You should be indexed on BRANCH and/or LEASE_TYPE, and based on the
data a cascading select may a better way to get at the information
quicker.  I'm no expert on the index optimizer, so cascading selects
may not be necessary, but it sure seems logical that if you index even
on BRANCH and then select like this (below) you might get better
responses:

SELECT filename WITH BRANCH = 0616 0844
SELECT filename WITH LEASE_TYPE # RA

Also, are BRANCH and LEASE_TYPE actual data fields or translates from
another file?  If these are translates it could seriously impact your
select performance.

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Also What is AFAIK, how do we set it up for multiple connections ?
thanks





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That might explain why one query takes so long, but not the time for
the four queries (unless he is out of resource).

UniData can run multiple queries concurrently, but AFAIK only one per
connection. So I guess the question is how DataStage is connecting to
UniData, as it looks like DataStage is scheduling these sequentially.

Brian

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 10:35:01 -0400
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You may want to try FILE.STAT and see if your file is properly sized.

If
not, then use
the RESIZE command.

Just my $0.001 worth.

Grant

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It is indexed on the key column, even then if I run the run the job
(query)
4 times in parallel, I am not getting advange of the parallel query.
Is
Unidata not good for the parallel query ?, or is there any tuning
method ?
thanks






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Re: [U2] Paragraphs in Files Other Than VOC

2004-08-09 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 8/9/04 10:27:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
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 Is it possible to store paragraphs in files other than the VOC?  I'm
 looking for a way to not clutter up the VOC with paragraphs... something
 like can be done with PROCs.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Perry Taylor
 Zirmed, Inc.
 

Yes there is and no you don't need a remote pointer.
A hundred remote pointers to VOCLIB still constitute one hundred cluttering 
objects in your VOC.  This is not necessary, if you are still interested in a 
simple solution that does not require pointers of this sort, let me know.
Will Johnson
Fast Forward
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[U2] UniData Upgrade on AIX

2004-08-09 Thread James Canale, Jr.
I am going to upgrade an IBM RS/6000 with AIX 4.2.2 and UniData 5.1 to AIX
5.2.3 with UniData 6.0.8.  While I have upgraded to UniData 6.0.X on AIX
before, it has only been on AIX 4.3.3.  I do know that AIX needs to be
upgraded first to 4.3.3 and then to 5.2.3, however, I don't know if I need
to be concerned with anything else.  Any issues I may need to address?  Is
there anything significantly different with AIX 5.2.3 that needs more
attention?  Thanks.
 
Regards,
 
Jim
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RE: [U2] UniData Upgrade on AIX

2004-08-09 Thread alfkec
We did a similar upgrade not too long ago and these are the only notes I
have from it:

In @udthome/sys/UDTSPOOL.CONFIG
the nhead option needs to be set to U_IGNORE instead of -o to stop it from
using -o nobanner
You can enter SETPTR 0 to see which options it is using.

However, we use SB+ which pretty much eliminates the need to use setptr so
this may not be a surprise for you

Colin Alfke
Support Specialist
Thomson Elite
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From: James Canale, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 3:02 PM
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Subject: [U2] UniData Upgrade on AIX


I am going to upgrade an IBM RS/6000 with AIX 4.2.2 and 
UniData 5.1 to AIX
5.2.3 with UniData 6.0.8.  While I have upgraded to UniData 
6.0.X on AIX
before, it has only been on AIX 4.3.3.  I do know that AIX needs to be
upgraded first to 4.3.3 and then to 5.2.3, however, I don't 
know if I need
to be concerned with anything else.  Any issues I may need to 
address?  Is
there anything significantly different with AIX 5.2.3 that needs more
attention?  Thanks.
 
Regards,
 
Jim
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[U2] U2 PE and which version of Linux

2004-08-09 Thread Eugene Perry
Hello,

I have just downloaded the Universe and Unidata PE versions for Linux.
However, I am not sure which version of Redhat Linux is required.  Does anyone
know.

Thanks

Eugene
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[U2] AIX printers direct

2004-08-09 Thread Moderator
Forwarded on behalf of a non-member ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
We have approximately 600 printers that will be attached to UniVerse 
10.1.2 on AIX 5.2.3. We do not want to use the Unix spooler, but want to 
keep the spooled files in UniVerse so they can be managed by the SP 
commands. Every time we us lp driver the file ends up in the Unix 
spooler and we have lost control through the SP commands. These printers 
are HP type printers connected through our network.

Does any one know of a Unix driver that will allow us to print to these 
devices without going through the Unix spooler (lp)?

Thanks for you help
Tom Dodds
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Re: [U2] [UV] UOJ/linux multivalue problem

2004-08-09 Thread John Hester
David Beahm wrote:
John-
  Sounds like the gotcha I ran into a few weeks ago, where the LANG 
environment variable has to be set to C when compiling and running Java. 
 Unfortunately, changing this breaks other things in RedHat (desktop 
icons, etc.), so I ended up renaming java and javac and making bash 
script wrappers for them that set LANG=C.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.  At U2 support's 
suggestion I set LANG=en_US.iso885915.  I changed the LANG variable 
setting in /etc/sysconfig/i18n on both the WebSphere app server and the 
UV server, then rebooted both.  That took care of the problem.

-John
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Re: [U2] AIX printers direct [AD]

2004-08-09 Thread Clifton Oliver
Tom,
How about the best of both worlds? Extended SPooler (ESP) keeps your 
jobs in UniVerse (or Unidata) for all management. Then you can print it 
through the Unix spooler so as to take advantage of all of those 
features if you want to.

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On Aug 9, 2004, at 17:15, Moderator wrote:
Forwarded on behalf of a non-member ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
We have approximately 600 printers that will be attached to UniVerse 
10.1.2 on AIX 5.2.3. We do not want to use the Unix spooler, but want 
to keep the spooled files in UniVerse so they can be managed by the SP 
commands. Every time we us lp driver the file ends up in the Unix 
spooler and we have lost control through the SP commands. These 
printers are HP type printers connected through our network.

Does any one know of a Unix driver that will allow us to print to 
these devices without going through the Unix spooler (lp)?

Thanks for you help
Tom Dodds
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RE: [U2] AIX printers direct

2004-08-09 Thread Rosenberg Ben
Here are 2 ways to connect the UV spooler
directly to your 600 network printers.

1. use hpnptyd to make a pseudo serial port device
(/dev/pt...) for each printer.  This would usually
be done at boot time, with a separate hpnptyd
process for each port, and you must wait until
after all of those 600 processes have started,
before you start your 2 spoolers (AIX and uv).

2. use universe spooler driver scripts that set
the PRINTERNAME environment variable and that
then call a common driver script that does
something like

cat | hpnpf -x ${PRINTERNAME} -w 2${PRINTERNAME}.logfile

(you'll probably want some other stuff - - see the scripts
that get installed on AIX when you install jetadmin.)

***

My advice is to avoid both of the above methods.

Don't connect your 600 printers
directly to the UniVerse spooler.

You'll save time and money if you get a dedicated
Novell Netware print server.

Netware 6 isn't as simple as good old Netware 3, but,
for 600 printers, it would be your least cumbersome solution.

The Netware server could handle all of your print jobs, not
just the ones from UniVerse, but also the ones from other unix
applications, and the ones from Windows workstations and
Windows servers.

If not Netware, then get a Windows 2003 server (or you might
need a Windows server cluster) as a dedicated print server
for all Windows and Unix applications, including UniVerse.

Either way, using a Netware server or a Windows server (or
Windows cluster), is going to make print job management
easier than using the UniVerse and/or AIX spoolers.

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