Re: [U2] FW: Valid Backup on Windows Universe

2009-06-29 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 4a4122b1@gmail.com, Steve Romanow slestak...@gmail.com writes Kevin Gusler wrote: Steve - Why do you think this? The failure I see of this system is that even though the db is paused, it is not in a safe state for backup. Once you broke the mirror would it not be safe to backup

Re: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History

2009-06-29 Thread Mecki Foerthmann
With other words nothing I really need like manipulating a U2 database. Does it make cups of tea too? Well, I don't like cups of tea, so why should I change? Steve Romanow wrote: Mecki Foerthmann wrote: It really boils down to this. What can you do with Python in a U2 database that I can't do

Re: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History

2009-06-29 Thread Results
All, Please keep it polite. This is a civilized list. - Charles Barouch resu...@keyally.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

Re: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History

2009-06-29 Thread Steve Romanow
Mecki, My apologies for being confrontational. This is a subject I care deeply about. I have worked in mv shops exclusively since 1994 (not bragging) and my point was primarily that the IT world has surpassed our tools by a large margin. I have written my last complicated F-correlative and

Re: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History

2009-06-29 Thread Brian Leach
Hi I thought about adding code folding to mvDeveloper, but with Pick/Basic it doesn't really work in the same way. If you have a language that is function or member based, there is a very clear boundary for each function, e.g. private void doSomething{ code in here } which makes it easy to

Re: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History

2009-06-29 Thread Steve Romanow
Brian Leach wrote: Hi I thought about adding code folding to mvDeveloper, but with Pick/Basic it doesn't really work in the same way. If you have a language that is function or member based, there is a very clear boundary for each function, e.g. Could a mild folding (fold the ones there

Re: [U2] Mixed Case UV Basic Programming Standards.

2009-06-29 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 6806801183013245804b6a7c6b34750715a...@hera.gnosys.local, phil walker p...@gnosys.co.nz writes As anyone written or thought about writing a code refactorer for U2-BASIC, this would/could/should standardize code semantics and also appearance? If this could be made configurable to the

Re: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History

2009-06-29 Thread Brian Leach
Steve I think you're possibly out of date in your view of the database - again, not wanting to be confrontational but this is an important point that you raise. I've also used MV for many years, but for the vast majority of that it has been as part of a client/server or similar platform. If

Re: [U2] Archaic?

2009-06-29 Thread Steve Romanow
Brian Leach wrote: Steve I think you're possibly out of date in your view of the database - again, not wanting to be confrontational but this is an important point that you raise. You are correct. The inroads IBM has made by offerring XML-DOM, SOAP, etc show they do have a plan and a clue.

Re: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History

2009-06-29 Thread Symeon Breen
Here Here Brian - I was about to say something on the same lines... -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: 29 June 2009 10:12 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Program

Re: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History

2009-06-29 Thread kishor
Hi Brian, How about adding a folding option that you can manually set the start and end points and add your comments for the fold? I use mvDeveloper for U2 development and textpad for other MV databases. Kishor Quoting Brian Leach br...@brianleach.co.uk: Hi I thought about adding code

Re: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History

2009-06-29 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Steve Romanowslestak...@gmail.com wrote: Mecki Foerthmann wrote: It really boils down to this. What can you do with Python in a U2 database that I can't do with Pick Basic? Umm, real unit testing ala nosetest I realize this is the U2 list, but I thought I

Re: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History

2009-06-29 Thread Steve Romanow
TY Dawn, Very cool post. You laid it out there very nicely. I hope to avoid the shiny new thing syndrome. I need to look up the book reference you made. WRT to the resurgence of mv-like data structures, no one will care that we've been mv when mv wasn't cool. Thanks guys for engaging me

Re: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History

2009-06-29 Thread Brian Leach
Thanks guys for engaging me in this exercise. I'm usually not this outspoken. We *like* outspoken. It's better than leaving things unsaid grin. Brian ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org

Re: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History

2009-06-29 Thread Steve Romanow
Brian Leach wrote: Thanks guys for engaging me in this exercise. I'm usually not this outspoken. Look at the times of my posts. I should use Google's Beer Goggles. No posts over 5 lines between 2am and 7am. ___ U2-Users mailing list

Re: [U2] Mixed Case UV Basic Programming Standards.

2009-06-29 Thread Charles Stevenson
I started this thread and I thank those who have helped me think about it. Some good ideas there. But, hey guys, one of the thread's rules was: 2. NOT about GOTO. Take it outside. So if you don't stop, I will have to come down on this with my full authority. (My full authority consists

Re: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History

2009-06-29 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 1fdb619c0906290746n2d553c0ao867cb5d64327b...@mail.gmail.com, Dawn Wolthuis dawnwolth...@gmail.com writes On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Steve Romanowslestak...@gmail.com wrote: Mecki Foerthmann wrote: It really boils down to this. What can you do with Python in a U2 database

Re: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History

2009-06-29 Thread Charles Stevenson
Dawn Wolthuis wrote: Just my two cents. cheers! --dawn How come Dawn's two cents are always worth more than my two cents? Don't answer that. All, I've found lurking on this whole thread informative thought-provoking. Thanks. ___ U2-Users

Re: [U2] Mixed Case UV Basic Programming Standards.

2009-06-29 Thread Dan Fitzgerald
My standard is to coat anyone using a goto with salty duck fat drop them from 15 feet up into the play yard at the Atlanta Humane Society during Pit Bull Play Hour. To make my standard work, you'll have to learn to fly a helicopter... Given the subject, I feel compelled to add: I'm kidding. I

Re: [U2] Mixed Case UV Basic Programming Standards.

2009-06-29 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
Since we are writing something new, I started out with Java styling rules, then saw that the AJAX toolset was written by people more accustomed to vb styling, so there is some mishmash, but we have File Names: CamelCase Field Names: CamelCase Constants: UPPER local variables: sometimeslower

[U2] UV UOJ hung sessions

2009-06-29 Thread John Hester
We have an issue where UOJ sessions initiated by our web app server occasionally get hung. This is a rare occurrance, but when it does happen the end user on the site usually repeats the action that causes it enough times to chew up a large number of UV licenses. The sessions remain until killed

Re: [U2] UV UOJ hung sessions

2009-06-29 Thread Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod) 46K
Do you have truss or a trace command at UNIX that can track what the PID is doing. It is pretty low level stuff, but if it is doing any file IO, you can see that and maybe see what is going on. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org

Re: [U2] Archaic?

2009-06-29 Thread Tony G
Four responses to notes raised in this thread: Back in the 90's I was as big on Java and more open initiatives as VB, but the MV world wasn't interested. Earlier in this decade I was on a quest to create Linux desktop app interfaces for MV but no one seemed interested. So I planted a firm foot

Re: [U2] Program Comments/Documentation/Notes/Revision History

2009-06-29 Thread Allen E. Elwood
Hey David, Why not just write a program to flip them back and forth between commented and decommented? *#*comment 1 code code code *#*comment 2 Is what it would look like until you re-ran it to restore the comments or you could write it so that after comment 1 it would have 40 chars of the

[U2] Running total from UniVerse dict

2009-06-29 Thread Kate Stanton
I am sure we used to be able to do this using I-type, but I cannot remember how. Now we are using I-types again (not just ocreelatives), I want to be able to show each item outstanding for an account, with a running balance. Can anyone help? I have been to the doc, and read about CALC and

Re: [U2] Running total from UniVerse dict

2009-06-29 Thread Bernard Lubin
Hi Kate, Try this... This will show the running total for every printed line ED DICT FILENAME RUNNING.TOTAL This is a Type I Descriptor last compiled on 30/06/09 at 09:07. 20 lines long. : P7 0001: I 0002: @1...@record8 0003: MD2 0004: RUNNING TOT 0005: 10R Regards   -Original

Re: [U2] Running total from UniVerse dict

2009-06-29 Thread David Jordan
Hi Kate I believe you are looking for the @ variables to solve your problem. I think in the uv help they come under the @ in the same area as the screen commands Regards David Jordan ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org

Re: [U2] Running total from UniVerse dict: THANKS!

2009-06-29 Thread Kate Stanton
It works! I have been back to the manuals, and would NEVER have found it there. Talks about @n as the result of the nth compound expression, but not as @1 as the result of the previous line. Help greatly appreciated - what a fabulous resource. Hi Kate, Try this... This will show the