Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

2009-10-08 Thread Womack, Adrian

The common blocks you've shown are not named - maybe that's your
problem. 

Try naming them (i.e. adding a unique slash-delimited name between the
word COMMON and the variable name(s).

eg. 

COMMON /AHC1/ AHCOMMON1

COMMON /AHC2/ AHCOMMON2

That way there won't be any conflict between the two blocks. 

We use named common extensively and it is mostly lazy loaded i.e. only
loaded the first time it's required, and we don't have any problems.


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Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

2009-10-08 Thread Hona, David
Hi Adrian 

I've never seen this particular issue before. What release of UniVerse or 
UniData is this (likewise the clients too)? What OS/platform is your U2 
installation on?

I would suggest some of the following to assist you in drill down the root 
cause:

a) Execute a DIVERT.OUT or COMO ON (or call !COMO) to capture the host 
sessions standard output  errors. Sometimes you can see the actual error in 
your output file (if there is any additional errors output)

b) Check the VOC entries for the subroutines you're calling

c) Call the subroutines as globally catalogued subroutines (CATALOG BP 
*MYSUB).. see if there is a difference

Regards,
David


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Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-08 Thread Mecki Foerthmann
I spoke with Susan too trying to integrate MVDeveloper into PRC, and
even though this is no problem with newer releases of PRC, it is with
older ones.
And don't you need Eclipse to make XLr8Editor work?
Well, we haven't got that either. UniObjects comes with UDK, though.


Doug wrote:
 For those of you using PRC, we have spoke with Susan at U2 University.  She
 says if you want to use our XLr8Editor she needs our editor to call the
 check out function during edit mode and the call the check in mode on
 finish.  We told her that would not be a problem.  She said all PRC's
 customer have to do is request that from her and we will make it work.

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 Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

 Sorry Doug,

 I don't like using ED either, but XLr8Editor probably won't work on our UD
 release at work, since we don't even have 6.0.
 And for quick data fixes and looking at raw data from TCL with select lists
 ED/AE just can't be beat.

 Nevertheless at least for maintaining Basic code I use Brian's MV Developer,
 and that one works even with UD 5.2 :-) But since we have an old PRC 3.9
 controlled SB+ application everything needs to be edited eventually using
 Server side tools to be tracked properly :-(.



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Re: [U2] I need your eyes

2009-10-08 Thread Hona, David

It's interesting to see IBM's claims about they didn't buy U2 specifically 
(which we know they purchased Informix DB technology and U2 was a bonus) and 
it doesn't fit into their future goals. I find that amusing when they continue 
to sell databases like IMS and Informix C-ISAM (etc) and the like... which 
also don't fit... I guess the PR gurus had to come up with something!!  

At the end of the day...it whatever works, I guess and whomever gives you the 
best value proposition. :)


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 All,
Doug Henschen at Intelligent Enterprise has posted this article:

http://intelligent-enterprise.informationweek.com/channels/information_management/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=220301557

I have a bet with him that there is enough interest in MV stories 
that he should do more of them. He'd like to see how many unique (not 
the same person looking over  over) page views this gets. Let's see if 
we can show the mainstream some legitimate interest.

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Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

2009-10-08 Thread Adrian Halid
Thanks for the help.

It seems once you name your common block you do not get the error anymore.

Just having a read of the documentation about the common statement in the 
documentation.

A common area can be either named or unnamed. An unnamed common area is
lost when the program completes its execution and control returns to the 
UniVerse
command level. A named common area remains available for as long as the user
remains in the UniVerse environment.

From what it says I should be able to have them unnamed and loose it between 
subroutine calls.

Regards


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Sent: Thursday, 8 October 2009 2:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug


The common blocks you've shown are not named - maybe that's your
problem. 

Try naming them (i.e. adding a unique slash-delimited name between the
word COMMON and the variable name(s).

eg. 

COMMON /AHC1/ AHCOMMON1

COMMON /AHC2/ AHCOMMON2

That way there won't be any conflict between the two blocks. 

We use named common extensively and it is mostly lazy loaded i.e. only
loaded the first time it's required, and we don't have any problems.


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Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

2009-10-08 Thread Adrian Halid
Yeah I tried the Dispose method after the Call but no luck there either.



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Try ahsub1.Dispose(); after ahsub1.Call();

Regards


Adrian Halid wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I am trying to call 2 subroutines using the same session in UniObject .NET
 but have an issue when the second subroutine Inserts a larger common
 block.
 
 I call the first subroutine without any issues. But when I call the second
 subroutine I get the following error.
 
 [IBM U2][UODOTNET - UNICLIENT][ErrorCode=30105] Unable to load the
 subroutine on the server
 
 I only have this issue in .NET and not in VB6.
 I believe that the .net UniSession is storing the Common Block variables
 and when I try to call another subroutine with a different common block it
 fails to load.
 
 I have read in another post on the web that people have created a Common
 Block loading subroutine to load all Common Blocks when they create the
 session.
 This way when ever they call any subroutine they know the common block
 does not increase.
 
 This seems a like a hack to me.
 
 I am worried that when ever a developer creates a new Common Block that
 they have to remember to update the Common Block loading Subroutine.
 Also we have thousands of Subroutines that may or may not include some
 common blocks.
 If a subroutine has the same variable name as a variable used in common
 block it does not insert will its value change.
 
 The other hack is to close and open the session every time I want to call
 a subroutine.
 But once again this is not suitable for my application.
 
 
 Here is my common blocks in universe
 - BP AH.COMMON1 ---
     COMMON AHCOMMON1
 
 
 - BP AH.COMMON2 ---
    COMMON AHCOMMON2
 
 
 Here are my two subroutines.
 - BP SR.AHTEST.CALL1 -
   SUBROUTINE SR.AHTEST.CALL1
   $INSERT AH.COMMON1
   RETURN
 END
 
 
 - BP SR.AHTEST.CALL2 -
   SUBROUTINE SR.AHTEST.CALL2
   $INSERT AH.COMMON1
   $INSERT AH.COMMON2
   RETURN
 END
 
 
 Here is the C# .net code
 - C# .NET
 
     UniSession ahsession = UniObjects.OpenSession(HOST,
 USERNAME, PASSWORD, ACCOUNT, uvcs);
 
 
     UniSubroutine ahsub1 =
 ahsession.CreateUniSubroutine(SR.AHTEST.CALL1, 0);
     ahsub1.Call(); // No Error on this call
 
     UniSubroutine ahsub2 =
 ahsession.CreateUniSubroutine(SR.AHTEST.CALL2, 0);
     try
     {
     ahsub2.Call(); // Throws and exception 
     }
     catch (UniSubroutineException ex)
     {
     MessageBox.Show(ex.Message); //Displays [ErrorCode=30105]
 Unable to load the subroutine on the server
 
     }
     MessageBox.Show(Done);
 
 
 If I write the same code in VB6 using the UniObject for VB6 I get no
 errors
 - C# .NET
 
 
     Dim objSession As Object
     Set objSession = CreateObject(UniObjects.unioaifctrl)
     objSession.UserName = USERNAME
     objSession.Password = PASSWORD
     objSession.AccountPath = ACCOUNT
     objSession.HostName = HOST
      objSession.Connect
     
     Dim ahsub1 As Object
     Set ahsub1 = 

Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

2009-10-08 Thread Adrian Halid
Yeah I have compiled all my subroutines after creating the Commons.

Like I said.. No issues when I make the calls using VB6 UniObjects.
But an issue when I use the UniObjects .NET

The error that is returned is 

[IBM U2][UODOTNET - UNICLIENT][ErrorCode=30105] Unable to load the subroutine 
on the server

SR.AHTEST.CALL1 only inserts AH.COMMON1

And

SR.AHTEST.CALL2 inserts AH.COMMON1 and AH.COMMON2


I assume it is an issue with the common block cause if I comment out $INSERT 
AH.COMMON2 in the SR.AHTEST.CALL2 subroutine I don't get any errors in 
UniObjects .NET.

Examples of this working in VB6 and throwing an exception in .NET can be 
downloaded from

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=dfc3c5e4b0702c4d2fb2ca15d7ea42d9e04e75f6e8ebb871

The subroutines have been included as text files.




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Hi Adrian

I don't have problem with named commons.  There is a problem if you update
the parameters in a named common and you do not compile all the subroutines
with the named common.  If you call a routine that has not been recompiled
you get a fatal, named common mismatch.  Is that a possible issue for you.
This is a general basic issue and is not an issue with .Net API.  

Regards

David Jordan

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[U2] Universe PE Client Download

2009-10-08 Thread phil walker
I may be blind or having one of those moments, but where can I download
the clients for Universe PE on the Rocket site?

 

I downloaded the Universe PE Windows edition and it did not include any
client software, but none of the other links seemed to make sense
either.

 

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Re: [U2] Anybody familiar with Storis software?

2009-10-08 Thread Clive Hills
Please ignore my earlier rant , I think I must understood something while
Rocket were updating their website.
I've been able now to access the UV/UD personal editions, thank you.

Regards
Clive

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Clive Hills discordia...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am truly impressed with your ability to find this gem.

 What I'd like to know is why the sudden change in the treatment of the
 Personal Editions of UV/UD from their new owner.
 IBM were happy to let anyone have a copy for the non-commercial use
 required in the agreement. I get the impression with Rocket it is now only
 for 'evaluation'. Would anyone from Rocket care to comment?

 Clive


 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Address mrparkl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 http://www.storis.com/

 --- On Wed, 10/7/09, Steve Kunzman skunz...@comcast.net wrote:


 From: Steve Kunzman skunz...@comcast.net
 Subject: [U2] Anybody familiar with Storis software?
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 2:16 PM


 I have been talking to a company about some programming work. They are
 running a software package called Storis. Is the source code included with
 this software? What is the GUI front end written in (Revision 8.5)?

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Re: [U2] Universe PE Client Download

2009-10-08 Thread Colin Alfke
Try the UniData clients - they should be all the same.

Hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary, Canada

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From: phil walker

I may be blind or having one of those moments, but where can I download
the clients for Universe PE on the Rocket site?

I downloaded the Universe PE Windows edition and it did not include any
client software, but none of the other links seemed to make sense
either.

Phil Walker


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Re: [U2] Anybody familiar with Storis software?

2009-10-08 Thread BraDav
Storis makes their own front end.  They have their own client/server 
interface.  You'd have to learn their system.


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Subject: [U2] Anybody familiar with Storis software?


I have been talking to a company about some programming work. They are 
running a software package called Storis. Is the source code included with 
this software? What is the GUI front end written in (Revision 8.5)?


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Re: [U2] I need your eyes

2009-10-08 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 
fba5ea46361c5c4fb61c02795188f6627b5a644...@vaunsw141.au.cbainet.com, 
Hona, David david.h...@cba.com.au writes


It's interesting to see IBM's claims about they didn't buy U2 
specifically (which we know they purchased Informix DB technology and 
U2 was a bonus) and it doesn't fit into their future goals. I find 
that amusing when they continue to sell databases like IMS and 
Informix C-ISAM (etc) and the like... which also don't fit... I guess 
the PR gurus had to come up with something!!


Maybe IMS and C-ISAM are classic legacy, they're not selling and IBM can 
try to move them across to DB2. The trouble with U2 is it won't lie down 
and die ... :-)


At the end of the day...it whatever works, I guess and whomever gives 
you the best value proposition. :)


Well, if they're into selling DB2, and maintaining legacy stuff as it 
shuffles off to the graveyard, then yes, I don't think IBM is getting 
the value proposition they want from U2 :-)


Cheers,
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Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

2009-10-08 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 
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, Adrian Halid adrian.ha...@itvision.com.au writes

Thanks for the help.

It seems once you name your common block you do not get the error anymore.


I don't think that's the problem ...


Just having a read of the documentation about the common statement in 
the documentation.


A common area can be either named or unnamed. An unnamed common area is
lost when the program completes its execution and control returns to 
the UniVerse

command level. A named common area remains available for as long as the user
remains in the UniVerse environment.

From what it says I should be able to have them unnamed and loose it 
between subroutine calls.


That may well depend on your emulation. AIUI, unnamed common persists 
for as long as a program runs. It's returning to TCL that clears unnamed 
common (as I say, AIUI, I've never used unnamed common).


Named common persists until you log out. And I've had several obscure 
bugs where something tries to changed the size of common - that's not 
allowed.


So if subroutine A effectively contains COMMON A,B,C while subroutine 
B effectively contains COMMON A,B,C,D,E,F then running them in the 
same execution environment *will* cause a crash because B has tried to 
redefine common.


Regards


Adrian Halid
Senior Analyst/Programmer
 

Cheers,
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Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

2009-10-08 Thread John Woollam
Hi All

Within an execution environment, all subroutines using a given common name, 
including unnamed common, must have each common the same size as every other 
subroutine in the same environment, otherwise you get a COMMON SIZE MISMATCH 
ERROR.

That is why, when you have 2 includes containing unnamed common, and include 
one in one subroutine and both in another, you get the common size mismatch 
error.

In short, put all your unnamed common in one include only and your problems 
will go away

Regards

John Woollam  |  Group Financial Systems  |  Travis Perkins PLC  |  01604 682751

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, Adrian Halid adrian.ha...@itvision.com.au writes
Thanks for the help.

It seems once you name your common block you do not get the error anymore.

I don't think that's the problem ...

Just having a read of the documentation about the common statement in 
the documentation.

A common area can be either named or unnamed. An unnamed common area is
lost when the program completes its execution and control returns to 
the UniVerse
command level. A named common area remains available for as long as the user
remains in the UniVerse environment.

From what it says I should be able to have them unnamed and loose it 
between subroutine calls.

That may well depend on your emulation. AIUI, unnamed common persists 
for as long as a program runs. It's returning to TCL that clears unnamed 
common (as I say, AIUI, I've never used unnamed common).

Named common persists until you log out. And I've had several obscure 
bugs where something tries to changed the size of common - that's not 
allowed.

So if subroutine A effectively contains COMMON A,B,C while subroutine 
B effectively contains COMMON A,B,C,D,E,F then running them in the 
same execution environment *will* cause a crash because B has tried to 
redefine common.

Regards


Adrian Halid
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Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

2009-10-08 Thread Bill Haskett

Adrian:

An unnamed common is not lost between subroutine calls.  It is only 
lost when a program (not a subroutine) completes execution.  So, If I 
run PROGRAM1, set unnamed common within it, then call SUBROUTINE1, 
then call SUBROUTINE2, unnamed common is kept until PROGRAM1 completes 
execution, even though SUBROUTINE2 completed execution then SUBROUTINE1 
completed execution.


This is where you have to be careful with non-telnet connectivity.  
Sometimes, a product has a BASIC subroutine listening at the U2 end then 
CALLS the subroutines specified.  In this case, the use of all common 
has to be thought about.


Bill


Adrian Halid said the following on 10/7/2009 11:36 PM:

Thanks for the help.

It seems once you name your common block you do not get the error anymore.

Just having a read of the documentation about the common statement in the 
documentation.

A common area can be either named or unnamed. An unnamed common area is
lost when the program completes its execution and control returns to the 
UniVerse
command level. A named common area remains available for as long as the user
remains in the UniVerse environment.

From what it says I should be able to have them unnamed and loose it between 
subroutine calls.

Regards


Adrian Halid
Senior Analyst/Programmer
 
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The common blocks you've shown are not named - maybe that's your
problem. 


Try naming them (i.e. adding a unique slash-delimited name between the
word COMMON and the variable name(s).

eg. 


COMMON /AHC1/ AHCOMMON1

COMMON /AHC2/ AHCOMMON2

That way there won't be any conflict between the two blocks. 


We use named common extensively and it is mostly lazy loaded i.e. only
loaded the first time it's required, and we don't have any problems.


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Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

2009-10-08 Thread Bill Haskett
Be careful with named common names in UniData.  They're restricted to 
seven characters, maximum, in the name.


Bill


Womack, Adrian said the following on 10/7/2009 11:18 PM:

The common blocks you've shown are not named - maybe that's your
problem. 


Try naming them (i.e. adding a unique slash-delimited name between the
word COMMON and the variable name(s).

eg. 


COMMON /AHC1/ AHCOMMON1

COMMON /AHC2/ AHCOMMON2

That way there won't be any conflict between the two blocks. 


We use named common extensively and it is mostly lazy loaded i.e. only
loaded the first time it's required, and we don't have any problems.


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Re: [U2] I need your eyes

2009-10-08 Thread Ross Ferris
Chuck,

Nice work! An interesting follow-up investigation, for this community at
least, might be to scour the next set of published IBM results, because
somewhere in that haystack of papers one would expect to find a
reference to the sale value for the U2 assets

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In message
fba5ea46361c5c4fb61c02795188f6627b5a644...@vaunsw141.au.cbainet.com,
Hona, David david.h...@cba.com.au writes

It's interesting to see IBM's claims about they didn't buy U2
specifically (which we know they purchased Informix DB technology and
U2 was a bonus) and it doesn't fit into their future goals. I find
that amusing when they continue to sell databases like IMS and
Informix C-ISAM (etc) and the like... which also don't fit... I
guess
the PR gurus had to come up with something!!

Maybe IMS and C-ISAM are classic legacy, they're not selling and IBM
can
try to move them across to DB2. The trouble with U2 is it won't lie
down
and die ... :-)

At the end of the day...it whatever works, I guess and whomever gives
you the best value proposition. :)

Well, if they're into selling DB2, and maintaining legacy stuff as it
shuffles off to the graveyard, then yes, I don't think IBM is getting
the value proposition they want from U2 :-)

Cheers,
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Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

2009-10-08 Thread Adrian Halid
Thanks everyone for you support.

I understand that the issue in .net is caused by trying to resize the common 
block and will look at putting all unnamed commons into one include or name all 
my commons.

The bit that I still don't understand is why I don't have an exception in 
UniObject VB6. But do have an exception in UniObject .NET.

Is this a feature/bug of UniObject VB6 that it clears out the Common Block?

In the VB6 code you are still creating the Subroutine object from the same 
session.

So shouldn't the 2nd subroutine call fail to load as well in VB6 just like it 
does in .net?

I ask this because I am looking converting our existing VB6 app into a .NET app.

We have thousands of Subroutines that insert different common blocks but never 
had this issue when calling consecutive subroutines via VB6 code all within the 
same session.

So before I go naming all my unnamed commons I want to be sure I understand 
exactly what it does as it will effect these thousands of Subroutines.

Regards


Adrian Halid
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Subject: Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

Adrian:

An unnamed common is not lost between subroutine calls.  It is only 
lost when a program (not a subroutine) completes execution.  So, If I 
run PROGRAM1, set unnamed common within it, then call SUBROUTINE1, 
then call SUBROUTINE2, unnamed common is kept until PROGRAM1 completes 
execution, even though SUBROUTINE2 completed execution then SUBROUTINE1 
completed execution.

This is where you have to be careful with non-telnet connectivity.  
Sometimes, a product has a BASIC subroutine listening at the U2 end then 
CALLS the subroutines specified.  In this case, the use of all common 
has to be thought about.

Bill


Adrian Halid said the following on 10/7/2009 11:36 PM:
 Thanks for the help.

 It seems once you name your common block you do not get the error anymore.

 Just having a read of the documentation about the common statement in the 
 documentation.

 A common area can be either named or unnamed. An unnamed common area is
 lost when the program completes its execution and control returns to the 
 UniVerse
 command level. A named common area remains available for as long as the user
 remains in the UniVerse environment.

 From what it says I should be able to have them unnamed and loose it between 
 subroutine calls.

 Regards


 Adrian Halid
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 The common blocks you've shown are not named - maybe that's your
 problem. 

 Try naming them (i.e. adding a unique slash-delimited name between the
 word COMMON and the variable name(s).

 eg. 

 COMMON /AHC1/ AHCOMMON1
 
 COMMON /AHC2/ AHCOMMON2

 That way there won't be any conflict between the two blocks. 

 We use named common 

Re: [U2] hpux to linux

2009-10-08 Thread BraDav

Harold ,

If you're moving from Linux to Unix, I would check out Stratus computers. 
They're fault-tolerant Linux machines, running Redhat, with a long heritage 
from the 80's (with their own operating system).  Their claim to fame is 
99. % uptime or something ridiculously reliable like that...



Brad


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We have Rocket's Universe 10.2 over hpux 11.11 but are
considering moving to a linux box. Has anyone ported a U2 app
from hpux to linux?  I am trying to estimate for management
how long such a porting might take.
Just an opinion would be helpful, like 'easy', 'medium',
'hard', 'really hard'.

Thanks-
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Re: [U2] hpux to linux

2009-10-08 Thread BraDav

Karl,

Quotes are funny!  Only Benjamin Franklin wanted the turkey to be the 
national bird!  I prefer the Eagle: a majestic bird of their ever was one.


Brad



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Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

2009-10-08 Thread Adrian Halid
Just an update with common blocks.

What I am doing is calling two different subroutines with the same UniSession.

The first Subroutine inserts 1 common variable to the common block.
The second Subroutine inserts 2 common variables to the common block.

I am calling these subroutines consecutively and not nested.

This means that after each subroutine call the common area should be lost and 
therefore I should not get a common miss match exception.

From UniVerse BASIC Reference
A common area can be either named or unnamed. An unnamed common area is
lost when the program completes its execution and control returns to the 
UniVerse
command level. A named common area remains available for as long as the user
remains in the UniVerse environment.

I decided to compare the difference between UniObject .NET, VB6 and Java.

The results are as follows.

UniObjects VB6 and Java 
Can use the same session to call subroutines consecutively.
The common block is cleared after each subroutine call.

UniObjects .NET
Can NOT use the same session to call subroutines consecutively.
The common block is not cleared after each subroutine call. Causing the second 
subroutine to not load and throw and exception.

This to me sounds like a bug in the .NET implementation of UniObjects.

Example code for .NET, VB6 and Java can be found via the link below.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=dfc3c5e4b0702c4d2fb2ca15d7ea42d9e04e75f6e8ebb871

Subroutines
SR.AHTEST.CALL1-
  SUBROUTINE SR.AHTEST.CALL1
  COMMON AH1
  RETURN
END


SR.AHTEST.CALL2-
  SUBROUTINE SR.AHTEST.CALL2
  COMMON AH1, AH2
  RETURN
END




Below is the same example in Java

import asjava.uniobjects.*;

public class test
{
public static void main(String [ ] args)
{
System.out.println(Start);
try{
UniJava objUJ;
objUJ = new UniJava();


UniSession ahsession = objUJ.openSession();
ahsession.setHostName(HOST);
ahsession.setUserName(USERNAME);
ahsession.setPassword(PASSWORD);
ahsession.setAccountPath(ACCOUNT);

ahsession.connect();

UniSubroutine ahsub1 = 
ahsession.subroutine(SR.AHTEST.CALL1, 0);
ahsub1.call();

UniSubroutine ahsub2 = 
ahsession.subroutine(SR.AHTEST.CALL1, 0);
ahsub2.call();

}catch(Exception e){
System.out.println(e.toString());
}

System.out.println(End);
}
}


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Subject: Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

Thanks everyone for you support.

I understand that the issue in .net is caused by trying to resize the common 
block and will look at putting all unnamed commons into one include or name all 
my commons.

The bit that I still don't understand is why I don't have an exception in 
UniObject VB6. But do have an exception in UniObject .NET.

Is this a feature/bug of UniObject VB6 that it clears out the Common Block?

In the VB6 code you are still creating the Subroutine object from the same 
session.

So shouldn't the 2nd subroutine call fail to load as well in VB6 just like it 
does in .net?

I ask this because I am looking converting our existing VB6 app into a .NET app.

We have thousands of Subroutines that insert different common blocks but never 
had this issue when calling consecutive subroutines via VB6 code all within the 
same session.

So before I go naming all my unnamed commons I want to be sure I understand 
exactly what it does as it will effect these thousands of 

Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

2009-10-08 Thread ozemail
Hi Adrian

If you are using connection pooling, I believe the session would not drop.  

Regards

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Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

2009-10-08 Thread Adrian Halid
No connection pooling.

Just the standard session.

I am doing the same UniSession and UniSubroutine object setup and creation in 
.NET, VB6 and Java.

It seems in .NET UniObjects doesn't clear unnamed commons between subroutine 
calls where in VB6 and Java UniObjects it does.

Regards

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-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of ozemail
Sent: Friday, 9 October 2009 12:46 PM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

Hi Adrian

If you are using connection pooling, I believe the session would not drop.  

Regards

David Jordan

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