Re: [U2] A new DML?

2011-02-05 Thread Jeffrey Butera

On 2/4/2011 11:10 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) wrote:

Yes, it is possible to use intercall with Python using the ctypes module:
http://mvdbs.com/2010/07/05/python-to-intercall/


We previously attempted to use SWIG to get python to call InterCall, but 
ran into issues with python (64 bit) and intercall (32 bit).  We didn't 
want to completely reinstall python from source and compile as 32 bit.


Does the ctypes module in python allow calling 32-bit intercall libs 
from a 64-bit install of python?


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Re: [U2] A new DML?

2011-02-05 Thread Steve Romanow
Thank You David!

Nice blog.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:10 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com)
nab...@mvdbs.com wrote:


 Yes, it is possible to use intercall with Python using the ctypes module:

 http://mvdbs.com/2010/07/05/python-to-intercall/

 Cheers,

 djm


 slestak wrote:

 This might be a way to call the Intercall routines.

 http://docs.python.org/extending/extending.html


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[U2] Unidata 6.1 AIX: write error, errno = 9 on WRITESEQ

2011-02-05 Thread Kevin King
I have a bit of code that issues this command (basically) for logging:

WRITESEQ MESSAGE APPEND ON F.SEQ ELSE NULL

Yesterday, this program started throwing errors like this:

In *...program...* at line 29 write error, errno = 9

The item size at this time is 11M, nowhere close to the 2G max size for this
AIX platform.  My question is, what is errno = 9?  BTW, this problem
persisted for about 2 hours and then just went away without any technical
intervention.  What would cause this?  I'd really like to make sure it
doesn't happen again!

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Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?

2011-02-05 Thread Bill Haskett

Doug:

I believe what you're saying.  You ought to believe many of us who point 
out that we're familiar with partners and competitors who put their 
enterprise .NET applications for small businesses on an SQL Server 
machine with a single CPU license for $3,500.  They run the application 
on an IIS server and pay nothing for connectivity because it's all part 
of the MS framework.  Clearly this is a different scenario from you and 
has a serious impact on smaller businesses attempting to host their 
application, although it appears to have no impact on your business.


Bill


Doug said the following on 2/4/2011 3:49 PM:

HI Bill:

We are replacing a CRM and Distribution system running on Microsoft SQL
Server that cost 10 times what Unidata does.  The irony of this replacement
is they are still running Unidata and could never get this software to
running the way their current system does after 3 years.  We are migrating
them to the Web using our U2WebLink middleware in just 2 months.

Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com

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Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?

Doug:

Let me point out an alternative perspective.  An ISV's job is to sell our
applications.  If we can't compete in our business marketplaces, we need to
make adjustments or look at alternatives.  Competition mostly means we need
to offer a product that benefits our customers at a price that is usually
less than our competitors.  From my perspective, your statement that you pay
much higher rates for Oracle and Microsoft
databases doesn't apply to my experiences.  In fact, a number of our
competitors use Microsoft technology and have much lower deployment costs in
the small business environment than we do.  I'm only saying my experiences
differ from yours on this point, which is critical to our business.

Bill

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Re: [U2] A new DML?

2011-02-05 Thread DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com)


Thanks for you kind comments.

Remember to comment any article that you find of value.

Cheers,

djm


slestak wrote:
 
 Thank You David!
 
 Nice blog.
 
 On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:10 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com)
 nab...@mvdbs.com wrote:


 Yes, it is possible to use intercall with Python using the ctypes module:

 http://mvdbs.com/2010/07/05/python-to-intercall/

 Cheers,

 djm


 slestak wrote:

 This might be a way to call the Intercall routines.

 http://docs.python.org/extending/extending.html

 
 
 


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Re: [U2] A new DML?

2011-02-05 Thread DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com)

Jeff,

I have not tried ctypes etc on a 64-bit platform, but if SWIG had issues,
then I would not be surprised if ctypes also had some issues. Is there not a
64-bit intercall with 64-bit UniVerse?

djm
 

Jeffrey Butera wrote:
 
 On 2/4/2011 11:10 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) wrote:
 Yes, it is possible to use intercall with Python using the ctypes module:
 http://mvdbs.com/2010/07/05/python-to-intercall/
 
 We previously attempted to use SWIG to get python to call InterCall, but 
 ran into issues with python (64 bit) and intercall (32 bit).  We didn't 
 want to completely reinstall python from source and compile as 32 bit.
 
 Does the ctypes module in python allow calling 32-bit intercall libs 
 from a 64-bit install of python?
 
 
 


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Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?

2011-02-05 Thread Doug
Hi Bill:

Maybe there is a SQL Service license for 3,500.  Maybe you can run U2 on a
single connection pool with a single U2 user .  We know that both statements
are not true.

The base software they purchased is 595.00 per user on SQL Server plus a
multitude of other options.  How much they forward to Microsoft for SQL
Server I don't know.  What I do know is they are using SQL version 2005.  So
they have limited maintenance on the database and have missed many releases,
bug fixes, and security patches.  And you need those on SQL Server.

Because they were not running on our Web CRM and Distribution software for
the last 3 years we lost maintenance and enhancement revenue, which we did
not plow back into the product.  So, it did have an impact.  We had to fund
that development internally.

We spent hundreds of hours changing our interface to make it look relevant
and new.  We added additional options of skins.  We spent countless hours
improving our speed between Apache Tomcat and the client (browser).  We
added grid to grid drag and drop, so they can move data from one multi-value
field to another.  We added the ability to make different layouts of the
grids such as 3 horizontal or 3 vertical.   We added contextual menus to
grids as well.

These may not seem much but when we went in and demonstrated the software
they had already seen years before, they did not recognized it.  We got the
oh wow factor and we closed the sale.  

As they say in the restaurant business: Presentation is everything.  We
need to learn that in the U2 world as well.

Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com
Eclipse based tool developer for U2


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 2:48 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?

Doug:

I believe what you're saying.  You ought to believe many of us who point out
that we're familiar with partners and competitors who put their enterprise
.NET applications for small businesses on an SQL Server machine with a
single CPU license for $3,500.  They run the application on an IIS server
and pay nothing for connectivity because it's all part of the MS framework.
Clearly this is a different scenario from you and has a serious impact on
smaller businesses attempting to host their application, although it
appears to have no impact on your business.

Bill


Doug said the following on 2/4/2011 3:49 PM:
 HI Bill:

 We are replacing a CRM and Distribution system running on Microsoft 
 SQL Server that cost 10 times what Unidata does.  The irony of this 
 replacement is they are still running Unidata and could never get this 
 software to running the way their current system does after 3 years.  
 We are migrating them to the Web using our U2WebLink middleware in just 2
months.

 Regards,
 Doug
 www.u2logic.com

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill 
 Haskett
 Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:07 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?

 Doug:

 Let me point out an alternative perspective.  An ISV's job is to sell 
 our applications.  If we can't compete in our business marketplaces, 
 we need to make adjustments or look at alternatives.  Competition 
 mostly means we need to offer a product that benefits our customers at 
 a price that is usually less than our competitors.  From my 
 perspective, your statement that you pay much higher rates for Oracle and
Microsoft
 databases doesn't apply to my experiences.  In fact, a number of our 
 competitors use Microsoft technology and have much lower deployment 
 costs in the small business environment than we do.  I'm only saying 
 my experiences differ from yours on this point, which is critical to our
business.

 Bill
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Re: [U2] A new DML?

2011-02-05 Thread Steve Romanow

On 02/05/2011 05:18 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com) wrote:


Thanks for you kind comments.

Remember to comment any article that you find of value.

Cheers,

djm


slestak wrote:

Thank You David!

Nice blog.

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:10 PM, DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com)
nab...@mvdbs.com  wrote:


Yes, it is possible to use intercall with Python using the ctypes module:

http://mvdbs.com/2010/07/05/python-to-intercall/

Cheers,

djm


slestak wrote:

This might be a way to call the Intercall routines.

http://docs.python.org/extending/extending.html






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Re: [U2] Unidata 6.1 AIX: write error, errno = 9 on WRITESEQ

2011-02-05 Thread Kevin King
I'd like to rename this topic to when umask attacks.  Come to find out the
problem with this WRITESEQ was that the log record got created by a user
with a umask of 022 and was being updated by a user with a umask of 007.
 This caused the log to be created with rw-r--r-- permissions and even
though the two users were in the same group, there were no group write privs
on the file.

Just documenting the madness for posterity.

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Re: [U2] Unidata 6.1 AIX: write error, errno = 9 on WRITESEQ

2011-02-05 Thread Kevin King
P.S. Thanks to BobW for the offlist assistance!
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Re: [U2] A new DML?

2011-02-05 Thread DavidJMurray (mvdbs.com)


Fixed. Thanks for that.

djm



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