Hi Bill: Maybe there is a SQL Service license for 3,500. Maybe you can run U2 on a single connection pool with a single U2 user . We know that both statements are not true.
The base software they purchased is 595.00 per user on SQL Server plus a multitude of other options. How much they forward to Microsoft for SQL Server I don't know. What I do know is they are using SQL version 2005. So they have limited maintenance on the database and have missed many releases, bug fixes, and security patches. And you need those on SQL Server. Because they were not running on our Web CRM and Distribution software for the last 3 years we lost maintenance and enhancement revenue, which we did not plow back into the product. So, it did have an impact. We had to fund that development internally. We spent hundreds of hours changing our interface to make it look relevant and new. We added additional options of skins. We spent countless hours improving our speed between Apache Tomcat and the client (browser). We added grid to grid drag and drop, so they can move data from one multi-value field to another. We added the ability to make different layouts of the grids such as 3 horizontal or 3 vertical. We added contextual menus to grids as well. These may not seem much but when we went in and demonstrated the software they had already seen years before, they did not recognized it. We got the oh wow factor and we closed the sale. As they say in the restaurant business: "Presentation is everything". We need to learn that in the U2 world as well. Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com "Eclipse based tool developer for U2" -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 2:48 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP? Doug: I believe what you're saying. You ought to believe many of us who point out that we're familiar with partners and competitors who put their enterprise .NET applications for small businesses on an SQL Server machine with a single CPU license for $3,500. They run the application on an IIS server and pay nothing for connectivity because it's all part of the MS framework. Clearly this is a different scenario from you and has a serious impact on smaller businesses attempting to "host" their application, although it appears to have no impact on your business. Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Doug said the following on 2/4/2011 3:49 PM: > HI Bill: > > We are replacing a CRM and Distribution system running on Microsoft > SQL Server that cost 10 times what Unidata does. The irony of this > replacement is they are still running Unidata and could never get this > software to running the way their current system does after 3 years. > We are migrating them to the Web using our U2WebLink middleware in just 2 months. > > Regards, > Doug > www.u2logic.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill > Haskett > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:07 PM > To: U2 Users List > Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP? > > Doug: > > Let me point out an alternative perspective. An ISV's job is to sell > our applications. If we can't compete in our business marketplaces, > we need to make adjustments or look at alternatives. Competition > mostly means we need to offer a product that benefits our customers at > a price that is usually less than our competitors. From my > perspective, your statement that you pay "much higher rates for Oracle and Microsoft" > databases doesn't apply to my experiences. In fact, a number of our > competitors use Microsoft technology and have much lower deployment > costs in the small business environment than we do. I'm only saying > my experiences differ from yours on this point, which is critical to our business. > > Bill _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list [email protected] http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list [email protected] http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
