Doug
Do you really believe staff are more productive if they can play around
with skins and colours all day?
And I still have to see the office where people use smart phones and
tabloids instead of PCs.
Fine, maybe the top brass wants to see KPIs and fancy graphics on their
toys to show off
I am NOT ignoring this. We have all heard (or experienced) the horror stories
of companies that went away from a reliable PICK db to something that the new
CFO (or whoever) wanted, the implementation was a disaster, went grossly over
budget, and in the end, they ended up with a result that was
While on the one hand I agree with Mecki that Presentation Is Not
EveryThing...
As an applications developer I see the need for Give The People What They
Want and that
The UniVerse revolves around the center of the UniVerse which is of course...
Adobe Flash.
--Bill
Hi Mecki:
It doesn't matter if the staff is more productive or not, that is not our
job. We have given them what Google, Microsoft, Oracle and whomever have.
That browser front-end is rich with functionality, easy of use, and can be
color customized at a flip of a switch. If we don't give them
Since you can turn off auto compile...this really isn't an issueBUT
I could see that as a distraction (programmer dependant), in the sense you are
going
along writing code, and whamo, you get side tracked on how to figure out
what was wrong
and how to fix it. Sometimes it's better to
I still have the box that pcVerse came in, and it says Profile. It also has a
cool embossed sticker on it that says Wordmarc Composer. I'm pretty sure that
I bought it from WordMark, who also sold a word processing package. iirc (I
don't have any proof) multiVerse was also from Profile. pcVerse
Agree/Disagree department:
While it is CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT that we as programmers SUPPORT GUI for the
guys in the trenches that are making the sale that allows us to continue in
our trade, it is also PARAMOUNT that all GUI's are just the FRONT DOOR to a
robust keystroke oriented human/computer
Hmm, there really is a fundamental lack of understanding going on here.
Firstly we are not really talking about GUI in the old sense. A GUI
interface on a green screen application is just putting lipstick on a pig.
That really isn't what it is about.
We have an SB based application and in
The other day, we experienced a lot of users getting locked up. We did the
normal steps of trying to cleanly log off the users that were stuck, releasing
locks, etc. However in the end, we wound up having to reboot and the problems
have not returned. While not the solution I like, we got to
On 28/04/11 15:22, Ed Clark wrote:
I still have the box that pcVerse came in, and it says Profile. It also has a
cool embossed sticker on it that says Wordmarc Composer. I'm pretty sure
that I bought it from WordMark, who also sold a word processing package. iirc
(I don't have any proof)
First, I think they should make the PE versions a bit less crippled and
offer then as competitors to Microsoft's express editions and MySQL. If
you want to increase the exposure to your database, you're probably not
going to do it at $1500 a user license (or whatever it is now).
-Original
Back in my old Prime days, I actually used WordMARC as my basic programming
editor. You could not start a new program with it because it would through in
some unwanted stuff, but if you just build a new program with a single line of
code, WordMARC worked like a charm after that.
Man! It has
We updated to 7.2.6 maybe 2 months ago and have not seen the issue you
just described.
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George, I whole hardly agree. We we switched to a browser interface for all
of our applications it opened up customers that we thought would never be
interested in any of our applications products. We have a claims company
that does all of its data entry using the browser front-end where we
Wally,
Yeah, I saw your comments in the E-mail stream that came back to us.
Thanks for the info about the locking issue in early 7.2.x. I did NOT see
anything in the E-mail trail that specifically mentioned this. This is the
strongest reason I see to upgrade. I will pass this nugget up my
I wrote on my last posting:
Note: For Itanium, you have three options:
7.2.4 - released 11/6/09
7.2.7 - released 8/30/10
7.2.9 - released 3/31/11
I really don't have a good way of knowing who is running 7.2.9.
I can find out customers who have ordered it or partners who have processed
u2bc
As I've said before, we cannot continue to code like dinosaurs or we will be
extinct as well. The rest of the world has editors that tell you about
syntax failures. Why are U2 programmers think they are different?
You will have to code like the 20 or 30 year old. Or that person will take
you
This is for UniData 6.0 on hpux.
I have a program running some SQL statements and returning data. The problem
is the data (dates and numeric) is in internal format. I want it in output
format. The SQL statement is variable, so I can't hardcode conversions.
Here's an example:
The DICT for file
For me the issue comes down to all the free stuff out there just ripe for
the pickin'. Integrating any of the Google APIs (Google Charts is a pretty
cool API, actually) is easy to do in web programming but is not likely to be
something we'll see in SBClient. Maybe with SB/XA they'll do something
Not germane to my argument Will. There are not 2 virtually identical
languages called COBOLVERSE and COBOLDATA.
fft2...@aol.com wrote:
Cobol still exists also.
Oh you're on Unidata... well we're discontinuing that product in 2002.
In a message dated 4/27/2011 12:40:01 P.M. Pacific
Maybe it's just me, but I put the web interfaces in between the speed of a
character based app (truly the most speedy) and a GUI app (which may be much
less so). GUI may be pretty but WOW how it has slowed down the speed of
data entry. With web-based entry, I feel we're finally moving back
I think you would have better luck using EXECUTE SELECT... and READ
rather than parsing the result of an SQL statement
jonathanm wrote:
This is for UniData 6.0 on hpux.
I have a program running some SQL statements and returning data. The problem
is the data (dates and numeric) is in internal
Hi, Jeff. Thanks for the reply.
Please tell me a bit more about your suggestion. I'm not sure I understand
it. I'm not parsing the results of the SQL statement. I'm parsing the SQL
statement to get a list of fields so I can apply the correct conversion to
the results. The results are already
Thanks Wally! I saw your post but things are crazy for me today and my typing
got ahead of my thinking (too many fires, not enough water buckets).
I have passed your info on to the folks here.
John Israel
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Dayton Superior Corporation
1125 Byers Road
Miamisburg, OHÂ
That should work.
And then you can write your own update program to back-populate the
index w/o having to do a build at all.
But if your my connivings are true, then why doesn't RocketSQ give
that to us as a concurrent build option? A few years ago they (as IBM)
declared that 7x24 uptime
Ok I'll say it. Adobe
Well, it just got me in a lot of trouble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAQt_qt-i3w
Yeah, that's me
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Sent: Thursday, April
In a message dated 4/28/2011 5:07:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
johnisr...@daytonsuperior.com writes:
The vendors of canned packages out there ought to develop a GUI/web
interface to keep their package appealing to those that don't care/understand
the db behind it. In a tight race, bells
In a message dated 4/28/2011 6:41:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
bi...@hkmetalcraft.com writes:
The UniVerse revolves around the center of the UniVerse which is of
course... Adobe Flash.
I can only believe this is said in jest.
When my clients ask about Flash I shudder. Flash is the worst
In a message dated 4/28/2011 9:07:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
jscha...@gmail.com writes:
Not germane to my argument Will. There are not 2 virtually identical
languages called COBOLVERSE and COBOLDATA.
Yes my argument is extensible.
Why does Cobol still exist? Because there are still
Hey Chuck.
The CONCURRENT option is actually there although it's not documented
(and I suspect not officially supported). All it really does it not
lock the file which doesn't happen until the select is completed anyway.
One would have to make sure no updates were being made to the file until
No... I am serious. Flex is where it is at and where it is going. We are all
going to be rich.
--Bill
I can only believe this is said in jest.
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In a message dated 4/28/2011 10:44:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
bi...@hkmetalcraft.com writes:
No... I am serious. Flex is where it is at and where it is going. We
are all going to be rich.
I'm hiring a dozen monkeys so I can be at the forefront of this new world.
Bandwidth sucking monster Will - but it has it's place used properly.
Get Mozilla, then you can click on Tools/Add-On's and click on Disable
Good Bye bandwidth sucking adver's !
It also allows you to block pictures from add sites.
When you do want to go to Youtube, just click on Enable till
There is a product for Software Test from www.GorillaLogic.com called
FlexMonkey.
The executive profiles there are of particular interest.
The
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of fft2...@aol.com
I did some investigation of this in the past, and it is a nightmare.
I seem to recall that for a given process to correctly update an index, the
index had to have been created and enabled at the time that the file was opened
by that user. Otherwise, a user that had the file open prior to the
I realize this thread is a little old, but I just came across this
Rocket press release dated yesterday that might be of interest. They've
released an Automated Migration Tool that may include free remote
support (based on # of users migrated):
Hi Doug,
I think it is very well my job to help staff using my software to be
more productive.
That's what I at least get paid for!
But then I work for an end user and not a software vendor.
BTW I hardly ever use ED to edit programs, Brian's mv-developer is so
much better.
It would be great
Speaking of editors, why did UD/UV not ever adopt John's JET product ?
It was at least a decade ahead, in terms of full screen editing.
BTW I hardly ever use ED to edit programs, Brian's mv-developer is so
much better.
It would be great if UD would come with a decent editor out of the box,
On 28/04/11 17:53, Charles Stevenson wrote:
That should work.
And then you can write your own update program to back-populate the
index w/o having to do a build at all.
But if your my connivings are true, then why doesn't RocketSQ give
that to us as a concurrent build option? A few years
Come on George,
if GUI is putting on lipstick on green screen then browser enabled is
putting eye shadow and mascara on GUI.
90% of an application consists of code running behind the interface,
like validations, calculations and file/table updates aka business logic.
There are no tools out
After I started with Flex, I realized the middleware necessity. I like Adobe's
ColdFusion.
Thus... Flex - CF - UV.
--Bill
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Actually I think UV does this. If I create an index on an empty file the index
does not have to be built.
Perry
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HI Jake
A work group license is A$570
David Jordan
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Hi Mecki:
Whenever we get into discussions about editors, everyone mentions this
editor they got for free or this editor they are using from one of those
other guys or about the one they just cobbled together editor from EMACS,
VIM or Notepad, for instance. Eclipse is a full blown IDE. Eclipse
Say what!? The maximum count for a WG license is 24. It comes with
device licensing included. The dealer cost is something like $225/user
or $5,400 for a full license. Considering you can get a CPU license of
SQL Server Standard for this kind of money, this isn't cheap! And it's
the
This is on a fairly old release 10.1.21...
CREATE.FILE ITEST 1 1
Creating file ITEST as Type 18, Modulo 1, Separation 1.
Creating file D_ITEST as Type 18, Modulo 1, Separation 1.
Added @ID, the default record for RetrieVe, to D_ITEST.
CREATE.INDEX ITEST @ID
LIST.INDEX ITEST ALL
Alternate Key
I got Jeff's reply via email. Really appreciate it. However, his approach
involved abandoning SQL. For this project, SQL is a requirement. Any other
ideas?
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You might also get rid of short sighted VAR's that have discovered they
can make a majority of their revenue converting U2 customers to other
platforms.
Jerry
On 4/26/2011 4:50 PM, David Jordan wrote:
Have people who criticised U2 interfaces actually worked with other database
applications.
Jonathan;
Why the SQL requirement? It seems arbitrary. Most MV programmers would have
done it Jeff's way. Is it mostly so you can have your users enter SQL syntax
themselves? (You are guarding against SQL injection attacks right?!?!) Do
your users already know SQL, if not, it may even be more
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