--- On Sat, 18/2/12, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote:
I seriously believe most MV people
are not programming in ED on telnet (or
ssh) and that they are using some form of
GUI editor.
With respect, I disagree. I work alongside dozens of UniVerse developers and I
am in a very small
Long live telnetwe use a full screen editor for Universe, written in house
of course, being used by about 80 developers as I type.
Les Sherlock Hewkin
Senior Project Manager
Finance Systems, I.T. Department
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From:
Can someone confirm/clarify this statement from this recent technote:
UniAdmin and the Extensible Administration Tool (XAdmin) will start
udadmin_server when a user connects to a UniData server and will stop it
when the user disconnects. However, it is possible to spawn the
udadmin_server
Share ?
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From: Les Hewkin les.hew...@travisperkins.co.uk
To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:04 am
Subject: Re: [U2] mvToolbox--digression about why anyone would want
telnet-based tools
Long live telnetwe use a
Share ?
Accuterm Wed would be alternative. Good price great service.
George
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From: Wjhonson
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:15 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] mvToolbox--digression about why anyone would want
telnet-based tools
Share ?
WED is not an inplace full screen editor.
It's merely a hyped up Notepad. Not the same thing.
You cannot use WED to say Oh by the way, go grab the cross reference files and
show me every OTHER program that also reads the customer file. You could
however do that, with an inplace full screen
Only know do I understand.
Thanks
George
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From: Wjhonson
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:47 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] mvToolbox--digression about why anyone would want
telnet-based tools
WED is not an inplace full screen editor.
It's
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I know several older programmers who use ED exclusively. It's incredible how
quickly they can jump into code and make complex changes with just a few
keystrokes.
In the course of the day I use ED, a few full-screen non-gui editors
(jed/vi/maybe JET or SED sometimes) and some gui editors (WED,
How would you do this in a GUI Editor
I can use the TCL Editor in universe to change a variable name in a 1,000
programs in a program file by the following process.
ED ED PROG.CHANGE
2: C/OLD.ATTRIBUTE.NAME/NEW.ATTRIBUTE.NAME/G1000
3: FI
4: LOOP 2 1000
ED BP *
.X PROG.CHANGE
There are pros
From: Wjhonson
WED is not an inplace full screen editor. It's merely
a hyped up Notepad. Not the same thing. You cannot
use WED to say Oh by the way, go grab the cross
reference files and show me every OTHER program that
also reads the customer file. You could however do
that, with
I just read this article on tools and the concept of a backplane as an IDE.
Read the article and the linked articles inside it to see that this discussion
about X v Y is really pointless. :)
http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2012/02/17/whats-your-backplane/
David, I think most common IDEs/editors
Sure that's possible, but I can't recall ever needing to change a reference in
every program which exists.
Why would you need such a thing
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From: David Jordan da...@dacono.com.au
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Feb 20, 2012 2:40 pm
Whilst these editors can do it to a file in the directory, they are bypassing
the record locking within UniVerse.
I am playing devil's advocate, that whilst there are some things easier to do
in a Gui, there are some things easier to do in a green screen editor. I jump
back and forward
If I would need to change a variable in a hundreds of programs, usually
required when an INCLUDE variable changes, I would use the Search and
Replace. I would hope the variable is unique enough that I would still
like to see every line it is reference before starting a massive change.
Since my
Just to throw my hat in the ring, I agree that a GUI is more desirable in this
day and age. However, I've worked with Bro's mvToolbox for the last 6-7 years
and it's been a godsend, shaving days and weeks from my efforts. I still keep a
copy and recently reached out to Bro to bring it into my
I think the proof of the pudding is that you're not going to find ONE vendor
designing *and advertising* a 'new and improved' command line editor, or
using the words and with our JAVA implementation you get the NEW command
line editor!
Like it or not the line editor is headed for the bit bucket
As long as Rocket constantly refuses to include something better than the
command line editor. You will always have people who do not shell out for
anything else. I have no idea what yazoo at IBM/Rocket decided to junk JET
when they had no suitable replacement.
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